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Posted on February 16 at 3 p.m.
It takes both persons in a marriage working full-time to keep a decent standard of living in most larger cities. There's no time or money for large families.
The idea that we are helping anyone with immigration is incidental.
Immigration has always been about lowering paychecks for American Labor, and thus, largely apolitical. This is why we never help people where they live. Corporate interests don't give a fig.
Take their natural resources, yes. Use them as slave labor, you bet. Help them? Why? It doesn't make anyone any money, except for "helping" them with weapons sales, or political cronies with easy money for work that never gets done (see I-r-a-q).
Most people are caught up in the deliberately projected illusion that veils the realities of immigration and refugee importation.
--- Infinicat
Posted on January 27 at 3:29 p.m.
Jo confused all this further with:
"Do not wag your tongue at me. I do not find the US Constitution or the Bill or Rights troublesome. "
Back off, please. You're repeatedly not understanding what I'm writing. No one else has complained here or anywhere else that I post except for you.
Had you read my post thoroughly you'd have seen: "" We still have what our Commander-in-Chief calls "That goddamned piece of paper", the troublesome Constitution and Bill of Rights"
It is the ****Commander In Chief****, the president, Mr. Bush, who finds the Constitution troublesome. Is that clear now? I'm not going to diagram that sentence for you. No one was wagging their tongue at you. You're combative for no apparent reason.
Good-bye again, fellow Emporians. It's too nice here in Florida to waste my time on the computer arguing. Besides, our refugee problem is now over. Instead of Jihads, Mosques next to our churches, and secret conspiracies to Muslim-ize Emporia, all there is to worry about is the 25% increase in the poor, and the loss of tens of millions of dollars to our economy. It will take a year or more for the full impact of this to sink in. Tax revenues will shrink, property values will drop further, social services will expand, taxes will have to rise. While a 300K grant is a nice gesture, it's going to take millions/yr. to ameliorate this disaster --- and it's not coming.
See you in the Spring, everyone.
--- Infinicat
Posted on January 27 at 11:48 a.m.
Jo, please read my posts next time. The answers to your questions are therein.
[Jo]"What freedoms are we dying for?"
[IC] " We still have what our Commander-in-Chief calls "That goddamned piece of paper", the troublesome Constitution and Bill of Rights"
[Jo] "What is the bitter pill?"
[IC] "The number of people living below the poverty line just rose to around 18%. "
We tend agree on most of the rest.
Oh, and as create loves to say, before going to bed, be sure to go back to RRW, and read the rest of that thread.
http://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpres...
--- Infinicat.
Posted on January 26 at 5:56 p.m.
I've been cross-posted/crucified by my friend at RRW. I am grateful and honored.
Thanks to Meth for a decent, respectful and thoughtful response.
Was Tyson planning to leave when they tugged on the administration's leash to bring in the Somalis? When Roger Brownrigg spoke two months ago? Unlikely.
All American immigration, legal and illegal, from the earliest English settlers to this day, has been corporate-driven. I am not "blaming" the vocal locals. Had any of you bothered to look, you'd notice that I too, protested what was going on here, made comments about Tyson here and on many other blogs.
I am saying that Tyson HQ sensed the empowerment and building influence of local disssenters like posters here, myself included, decided not to weather the storm -- and play the only card they had.
All of you knew this risk existed from day one. I did and said so, clearly outlining the potential (now very real) economic impact here.
Many of you openly and strongly called for Tyson to close (I can still get the quotes if forced to) and it did.
I am not blaming anyone for anything. This is how it had to go down, and now it has.
Corporations are not compromising or taking prisoners any more. They're simply moving, closing, and sending a real shot across the bow to the other communities in the same position.
The message, in case some still don't get it is: Conform or face economic disaster.
I do not believe people should clam up just because they're tacitly threatened with their community's livelihood and well being by corporate overlords.
Just be prepared to face the outcome. There is a reason why governments are responsive to corporations and not citizens. Why developers get their way everywhere except in rich neighborhoods.
Large corporations totally own the government. The balance of power is gone. And it is going to get much worse. We still have what our Commander-in-Chief calls "That goddamned piece of paper", the troublesome Constitution and Bill of Rights. Use it, fight for it, or lose it.
There is a rising tide of bitterness now about what has happened here, and that, too, is how it must be. I believe in that early American flag that said "Live free or die". It's our turn to die a little for our freedom. It's a bitter pill, with serious, long-lasting consequences for us, but we did the right thing, even if it led to a
pyrrhic victory.
Explaining this to those newly unemployed, desperate, and in instant poverty is no easy task. No one can blame them for their anger. Explaining this to those on this forum should be easier: I see this deterministically. Everyone, including Tyson, refugee forum dissenters, well-meaning pro-refugee forces, outside elements, all played out our roles in the only way we knew how. Me too. I knew in my heart that this would happen, and that there was no way to prevent it.
--- Infinicat.
Posted on January 26 at 3:24 a.m.
I knew Tyson would do it, and said so here months ago.
As we all know, Tyson has partially closed its plant here, as they have where they've encountered hard resistance to the refugees.
One didn't have to be a genius to see that coming. Create quoted it from RRW back in Nov. What made anyone think that faced with the same exact situation that Tyson would do anything ELSE?
This is a huge economic disaster for everyone in Emporia, and those presently laid off are only the tip of the iceberg.
Social costs to us will now be at least 3X what they would have been for the 400 initial Somalis, and surely escalate as the ripples of disaster spread. We haven't seen anything yet.
Tyson played the trump card. It was all they had. They've bowed to the vocal locals, and disemployed the Somalis, along with severe punitive damages for the rest of the community. Game over.
They'll survive, if not prosper. We will flounder.
1,100 non-Somali Emporians are out of work. The number of people living below the poverty line just rose to around 18%. Does anyone have a clue as to what it was during the Depression? Our taxes must now increase to meet these newly unemployed's needs, but since they're native Emporians, we won't mind paying it, will we?
We can all rest easy now that the refugee problem has been solved. Yeah, the usual suspects on here (no need to name names, they're clearly named elsewhere) 'won'. Most Somalis will be leaving for greener pastures soon, and that issue will dissipate inside a year. The 1,100 native & newly unemployed, a much bigger, non-assimilating problem, will not. In fact, any economist would predict this will end up with more than twice that number unemployed by the time this trickles down.
Any suggestions?
Gwen Larson, this issue is over, unemployment/economic disaster is the new fly buzzing Emporia. Time to open another forum.
Praying for the 1500 and their families,
--- Infinicat.
Posted on January 13 at 10:11 a.m.
Terrorism in America Part VII
I could go on and on and on, but hopefully, the truth of terrorism in America, the mix of ethnicities involved, and the fact that bombing (dependent on the technology of the time) was often used, and innocent civilians, including children, including right here in KS, should be evident to anyone. The causes for terror vary widely as well.
Over and out,
--- Infinicat
Posted on January 13 at 10:03 a.m.
Terrorism in America Part VI
Puerto Rican nationalists
* 1954 March 1: U.S. Capitol shooting incident. Four Puerto Rican nationalists shoot and wound five members of the United States Congress during an immigration debate.
* 1975 January 24: The Puerto Rican nationalist group the Fuerzas Armadas de Liberación Nacional (FALN), bombs Fraunces Tavern in New York City, killing four and injuring more than 50.
* 1975 December 29 A bomb set off by FALN in East Harlem, New York permanently disables a police officer while causing him to lose an eye.
* 1977 August 3: FALN bombs exploded on the twenty-first floor of 342 Madison Avenue in New York City, which housed United States Department of Defense security personnel, as well as the Mobil Building at 150 East Forty-Second Street, killing one. In addition the group warned that bombs were located in thirteen other buildings, including the Empire State Building and the World Trade Center resulting in the evacuation of one hundred thousand. Five days later a bomb attributed to the group was found in the AMEX building.[20]
* May 3, 1979 FALN exploded a bomb outside of the Shubert Theatre in Chicago, injuring five people.
* 1980 March 15 Armed members of FALN raided the campaign headquarters of President Jimmy Carter in Chicago and the campaign headquarters of George H. W. Bush in New York City. Seven people in Chicago and ten people in New York were tied up as the offices were vandalized before the FALN members fled. A few days later, Carter delegates in Chicago received threatening letters from FALN.
* 1981 May 16 One was killed in an explosion in the toilets at the Pan Am terminal at New York's JFK airport. The bombing is claimed by the Puerto Rican Resistance Army [21].
* 1982 December 31: FALN explodes bombs outside of the 26 Federal Plaza in Manhattan, FBI Headquarters and a United States courthouse in Brooklyn. Three NYPD police officers are blinded with one officer losing both eyes. All 3 officers sustained other serious injuries trying to diffuse a second Federal Plaza bomb. [22],[23]
Posted on January 13 at 10:02 a.m.
Terrorism in America Part V
* 1868–1871 The Ku Klux Klan in Georgia engage in many acts including whipping of black women and assassination of Republican Party members. It is impossible to untangle local vigilante violence from political terrorism by the organized Klan, but it is clear that attacks on blacks became common during 1868. The Freedmen's Bureau agents reported 336 cases of murder or assault with intent to kill on freedmen across the state from January 1 through November 15. In the next three years Black churches and schools were burned, teachers were attacked, and freedpeople who refused to show proper deference were beaten and killed.[19]
* 1868 October 22: James M. Hinds, Arkansas congressional representative, assassinated by a member of the Ku Klux Klan in Little Rock
* 1898 November 10: In the Wilmington Insurrection of 1898, White supremacists overthrow the biracial Republican government of Wilmington, North Carolina, killing at least 22 African Americans, marking the beginning of the Jim Crow era in North Carolina.
* 1927 The Ku Klux Klan launch a wave of political terror in Alabama, attempting to undermine African American rights.
* December 21, 1951: Harry T. Moore, NAACP state director, and his wife are killed by a bomb planted in their home in Mims, Florida by members of the Ku Klux Klan.
* 1963 June 12: NAACP organizer Medgar Evers shot in front of his Mississippi home by member of the Ku Klux Klan.
* September 16, 1963: 16th Street Baptist Church bombing. A member of the Ku Klux Klan bombed a Church in Birmingham, Alabama, killing four girls.
* June 21, 1964: In the Mississippi civil rights worker murders, three civil rights workers are murdered in Philadelphia, Mississippi by the Ku Klux Klan.
* March 25, 1965: The Ku Klux Klan murders Viola Liuzzo, a Southern-raised white mother of five who was visiting Alabama from her home in Detroit to attend a civil rights march. At the time of her murder Liuzzo was transporting Civil Rights Marchers.
* 1966 January 10: Vernon Dahmer dies in the firebombing of his own home in Mississippi at the hands of the Ku Klux Klan.
* 1979 November 3: Members of the Ku Klux Klan and the American Nazi Party fire on meeting of members of a Communist group who were trying to organize local African American workers in Greensboro, North Carolina, killing five. See Greensboro Massacre.
* March 20, 1981: Michael Donald was randomly selected to be lynched by two Ku Klux Klan members near his Alabama home. He was beaten, had his throat slit, and was hung.
Posted on January 13 at 10:01 a.m.
Terrorism in America Part IV
* 1997 February 24: An armed man opens fire on tourists at an observation deck atop the Empire State Building killing a Danish national and wounding visitors from the United States, Argentina, Switzerland and France before turning the gun on himself. A handwritten note carried by the gunman claims this was a punishment attack against the "enemies of Palestine". His widow claimed he became suicidal after losing $300,000 in a business venture. In a 2007 interview with the New York Daily News his daughter said her mother's story was a cover crafted by the Palestinian Authority and that her father wanted to punish the United States for its support of Israel [16]
[edit] 2000-present
* 2001 September 11: September 11, 2001 attacks carried out by Al-Qaeda. Islamic fundamentalists use airplanes to destroy the twin towers of the World Trade Center and heavily damage The Pentagon. A fourth plane crashed prematurely in Pennsylvania.
* 2001 September 18: November - 2001 anthrax attacks. Letters tainted with anthrax kill five across the United States, with politicians and media officials as the apparent targets. The case remains unsolved.
* May 2002 Mailbox Pipe Bomber: Lucas John Helder rigged pipe bombs in private mailboxes to explode when the boxes were opened. He injured 6 people in Nebraska, Colorado, Texas, Illinois, and Iowa. His motivation was to garner media attention so that he could spread a message denouncing government control over daily lives and the illegality of marijuana as well as promoting astral projection.
* 2002 July 4: Hesham Mohamed Hadayet, a 41-year-old Egyptian national, kills 2 Israelis and wounds 4 others at the El Al ticket counter at Los Angeles International Airport. The FBI concluded this was terrorism, although they found no evidence linking Hadayet to any terrorist group.[17]
* October 2002 Beltway Sniper Attacks: During three weeks in October 2002 John Allen Muhammad and Lee Boyd Malvo killed 10 people and critically injured 3 others in Washington D.C, Baltimore, and Virginia. An earlier spree by the pair had resulted in 3 deaths in Louisiana, Alabama, Georgia, California, Arizona, and Texas to bring the total to 16 deaths. No motivation was given at the trail but evidence presented showed an affinity to the cause of the Islamic Jihad.
* 2007 October 26. A pair of improvised explosive devices were thrown at the Mexican Consulate in New York City. The fake grenades were filled with black powder and detonated by fusus causing very minor damage. Police were investigating the connection between this and a similar attack against the British Consulate in New York in 2005[18].
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Posted on February 16 at 10:55 p.m.
A little chilly at 64 tonight....
--- Infinicat
On Refugee resettlement