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Posted on July 18 at 5:39 p.m.
Great job! It is so nice to read such an uplifting story. Thanks nurses, for always being "on duty" even at the grocery store!
Posted on July 18 at 4:41 p.m.
Who is dave hitt and why do you keep quoting him? I'll take "epidemiological evidence" over "Dave's opinion" anyday.
But it is obvious that if even 83 pages of "epidemiological evidence" from reputable studies done all over the world by some of the greatest minds in medicine won't convince you that it is completely and totally about health, then nothing will. So, I agree to disagree and will continue to be in favor of a Clean Air Ordinance for the City and will also support the State one as well.
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Posted on July 18 at 3:12 p.m.
Al-Delaimy, W.K.; Stampfer, M.J.; Manson, J.E.; Willett, W.C., "Toenail nicotine levels as predictors of coronary heart disease among women," American Journal of Epidemiology [Epub ahead of print], April 7, 2008.
Peppone, L.J.; Mahoney, M.C.; Cummings, K.M.; Michalek, A.M.; Reid, M.E.; Moysich, K.B.; Hyland, A., "Colorectal cancer occurs earlier in those exposed to tobacco smoke: implications for screening," Journal of Cancer Research and Clinical Oncology [Epub ahead of print], February 9, 2008
Collaco, J.M.; Vanscoy, L.; Bremer, L.; McDougal, K.; Blackman, S.M.; Bowers, A.; Naughton, K.; Jennings, J.; Ellen, J.; Cutting, G.R., "Interactions between secondhand smoke and genes that affect cystic fibrosis lung disease," Journal of the American Medical Association 299(4): 417-424, January 30, 2008.
Asomaning, K.; Miller, D.P.; Liu, G.; Wain, J.C.; Lynch, T.J.; Su, L.; Christiani, D.C., "Second hand smoke, age of exposure and lung cancer risk," Lung Cancer [Epub ahead of print], January 7, 2008.
Stanbury, M.; Chester, D.; Hanna, E.A.; Rosenman, K.D., "How many deaths will it take? A death from asthma associated with work-related environmental tobacco smoke," American Journal of Industrial Medicine [Epub ahead of print], December 7, 2007.
Johnson, K.C.; Glantz, S.A., "Evidence secondhand smoke causes breast cancer in 2005 stronger than for lung cancer in 1986," Preventive Medicine [Epub ahead of print]., December 4, 2007.
Seo, D.; Torabi, M.R., "Reduced admissions for acute myocardial infarction associated with a public smoking ban: matched controlled study," Journal of Drug Education 37(3): 217-226, 2007.
Happy reading!
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Posted on July 18 at 3:11 p.m.
Outsider, I'm no billclinton, but I couldn't resist the gauntlet. Here are several of the studies that you requested, not 21 because I'm tired of this, but enough that you get the point. These are all recent studies. I challenge you to look them up and read what they have to say. Also look at the actual study in the British Journal of Medicine that you refer to. What you report (via an opinion website) is not accurate.
Sundstrom, P.; Nystrom, L.; Hallmans, G., "Smoke exposure increases the risk for multiple sclerosis," European Journal of Neurology 15(6): 579-583, June 2008.
Slattery, M.L., "Active and passive smoking, IL6 , ESR1, and breast cancer risk," Breast Cancer Research and Treatment 109(1), May 2008.
Clark, III, J.D.; Wilkinson, J.D.; LeBlanc, W.G.; Dietz, N.A.; Arheart, K.L.; Fleming, L.E.; Lee, D.J., "Inflammatory markers and secondhand tobacco smoke exposure among U.S. workers," American Journal of Industrial Medicine [Epub ahead of print], May 14, 2008.
Heiss, C.; Amabile, N.; Lee, A.C.; Real, W.M.; Schick, S.F.; Lao, D.; Wong, M.L.; Jahn, S.; Angeli, F.S.; Minasi, P.; Springer, M.L.: Hammond, S.K.; Glantz, S.A.; Grossman, W.; Balmes, J.R.; Yeghiazarians, Y., "Brief secondhand smoke exposure depresses endothelial progenitor cells activity and endothelial function: sustained vascular injury and blunted nitric oxide production," Journal of the American College of Cardiology 51(18): 1760-1771, May 6, 2008.
Vasselli, S.; Papini, P.; Gaelone, D.; Spizzichino, L.; De Campora, E.; Gnavi, R.; Saitto, C.; Laurendi, G.; Binkin, N., "Reduction incidence of myocardial infarction associated with a national legislative ban on smoking," Minerva Cardioangiology 56(2): 197-203, April 2008.
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Posted on July 18 at 1:56 p.m.
Bj, I was just exercising that sense of humor, I thought it was funny. Actually, I was just trying to see if anyone was really reading these posts before reacting, guess you at least read that one sentence, does tend to get your attention, huh? I'm not on any sort or crusade, moral or otherwise. And really, "perky", that's priceless.
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Posted on July 18 at 1:27 p.m.
The overwhelming majority of scientists and medical professionals agree that smoking and seond hand smoke do indeed shorten the lifespan. However, even if you are lucky enough to have good genetics and can avoid lung cancer, heart disease, lung disease etc, you should be aware that smoking has also been shown to cause impotence. Oh well, there's always the little blue pill, I suppose.
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Posted on July 18 at 9:04 a.m.
I grew up in the country though not around here, and stupid people dumping strays was a problem then as well. Why do people think it's OK to do that? I don't get it!
I remember my mother shooting a stray dog once that we were unable to catch and that was slowly starving. As it got skinnier it also got bolder about trying to get the chickens and the cats. I also remember that after she shot it she buried it and cried the whole time.
I hope that by printing this article, the Gazette has gotten through to an idiot somewhere who is considering dumping an unwanted animal. Please dump it at the shelter, it is so much more humane!
Posted on July 18 at 8:53 a.m.
I can see that people are still not getting it so I'll repeat it again: No one associated with the Clean Air Ordinance has said they think they're better than smokers or even insinuated it. The only place that has been stated is on this forum by folks who have admitted they have nothing to do with the ordinance but are stating their own opinions. Also stated by smokers who seem to be living in a paranoid state of mind with a persucution complex. Again, never part of the agenda of Clean Air Emporia. This is NOT about the smoker or smoking being evil, unclean or even about personal choice. NOWHERE has anybody even hinted at a further agenda of banning smoking as a choice, it is like they say in real estate: its location, location, location!
I fully support the Clean Air Ordinance, am a former smoker myself and have been married to a smoker for over 20 years. He is one of the rare smokers who are very considerate about not smoking around anyone else. He smokes outside at home and detests eating around other people's smoke. He also is very considerate about his trash, making sure not to litter with his "butts". I'd better stop now before you get the idea the man is a saint! The point is that many many smokers are not considerate of other people's choice not to smoke. I accept responsibility for the damage I may have done to my own health with my previous addiction to nicotine. Having been a non-smoker now for about 16 years though, I would like to be able to have the freedom to go to any public place in this town that I wish to without risking further damage to my health from someone else's addiction.
The vast majority of the time we eat dinner at home, with our children. On special occasions and sometimes just because I need a break from cooking we like to go out to eat. How nice it would be to not have to limit our choices. One of our kids has rather severe allergies and asthma which makes it dangerous for her to be subjected to smoke. Again, limits the places we are free to go to. My eyes water and I get sinus problems when exposed for any length of time. I don't really mind the smell that much but I sure do not like the physical ailments of exposure.
I surely do remember how very awful it feels to be in need of a "fix" and how very difficult it was to quit. It took me several attempts before I was able to completely let go of it and several more years before I really thought of myself as a non-smoker. But again, this ordinance is not about taking away the choice to smoke, it is all about making all public indoor spaces free of smoke for patrons and employees. It's the right thing to do.
Posted on July 14 at 4:38 p.m.
Well, thanks for clearing that up, bj! I didn't even consider that, it's just a phrase. I'm glad you're happy.
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Posted on July 18 at 10:01 p.m.
Actually, Outsider, I have heard of some of them, and have actually read some of the studies in their original publications, namely the Journal of the American Medical Association, and the Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report. Most of the foreign ones are unknown to me, but I don't discount their validity just because they are from other countries. Looking at the way the studies were conducted and at the credentials of those who ran the studies leads me to believe they are more credible than "Dave's opinion".
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