Photo by Jordan Haiduk
Abandoned shopping carts from Price Chopper lie tangled in greenery in a ditch near the store.
Sometimes, Price Chopper gets its shopping carts back. Sometimes, the carts become avant-garde ditch art.
For years now, the grocer at 2703 W. Highway 50 has been making special trips off its property both to serve customers and to save itself some money. Residents of West Hill Mobile Home Park, the trailer park south of Price Chopper across Sixth Avenue, have been walking to the store, then taking shopping carts back to their homes to unload their groceries. Once they’re done with the carts, some shoppers leave them outside their trailer homes — and Price Chopper employees make runs to the trailer park, every few weeks or so, to pick them up.
But some of the carts, worth between $150 and $300 new, get dumped in the drainage canal separating the Price Chopper property from the old Big Lots property to the west. The canal is something of a hidden eyesore, because the carts and various other forms of trash are obscured by the overgrown plant life filling the drainage ditch. Upon close inspection of the ditch, you’ll find not only junked shopping carts, but also such items as an ironing board and a rusty park-type railing.
With bushes, trees and trash all in abundance, it might be asked why the city doesn’t take steps to clean up the ditch. One Emporia resident who asked not to be identified complained to The Gazette about the trash and vegetation.
But the canal itself is private property, which is part of why former Price Chopper owner Arnie Graham’s effort to prompt the city to get it cleaned up essentially went nowhere. Graham, who still owns the property on which Price Chopper sits, talked to the city about it when Steve Commons was still city manager.
According to an overhead city property-line map, which current City Manager Matt Zimmerman noted was not survey-accurate, the ditch forms the east end of the property line for Big Lots. The property is managed by developer D.J. Christie Inc. and owned by Diversified Acquisitions, a Kansas City-area company, according to John Nolan, D.J. Christie Director of Sales and Leasing.
Commons recalled that the city had conversations about keeping the canal clean with Big Lots employees, rather than the owner of the property. A city improvement, he said, “just wasn’t economically feasible for the city. An open ditch like that is the most cost-effective, and the city didn’t, and still doesn’t, I assume, have lots of money sitting around to do drainage improvements.”
That’s still the case, according to Zimmerman.
“In my time here, no one has ever approached me about maintaining that, either from a vegetation or from a garbage standpoint,” he said. “Typically, the city does not go onto private property and maintain that.
“We’ve had a number of calls just this year alone about drainage issues all over town. And this is more garbage than drainage, I understand, but it’s the same theory that if we’re gonna go in and start re-grading and maintaining the detention areas, other than designated public detention areas, that the city can’t afford that without a significant tax increase. ... So we’re certainly not looking to add more programs, add more without a designated revenue source of some kind.”
Zimmerman said he didn’t know if the vegetation in the ditch was potentially a violation of a city ordinance.
“We have the 12-inch weed regulations,” he said. “... As a vegetation (issue), tree vs. grassy, I don’t know, and the fact that it’s in a designated waterway, I don’t know how that affects it. At least in my time, we’ve never really received a complaint about it, so we haven’t ever really dealt with it.”
The cart runs to West Hill and the occasional lost carts have become a long-standing fact of life for Price Chopper. It’s been that way throughout manager Shawn Kelley’s 16 years at the store. Each run usually results in three to four retrieved carts, some of which are taken back in unusable condition.
“It’s a pain to go pick ’em up and everything,” he said. “But it’s just something we’ve always done, so it is what it is, I guess.”
Kelley said Price Chopper has made no effort to get reimbursed for the carts that are lost or retrieved in unusable condition.
“I don’t even really know how we would go about it,” he said. “I mean, if you see your property sitting in somebody else’s lawn, I’m sure we could do something. We just don’t.”
Nolan was amused to hear about Price Chopper’s shopping cart situation. Nolan said Diversified Acquisitions has owned the building for about four years, and he just got the property listed for them. He said this was the first he had heard of the ditch’s trash problem.
“I have seen it ... it is overgrown,” Nolan said. “I haven’t seen all that (trash) down there.”
Nolan said he would let officials with Diversified Acquisitions know about the problem. Graham, who now lives in Snowmass Village, Colo., and officials from Diversified Acquisitions couldn’t be reached.
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Posted by madpoet (anonymous) on June 25, 2008 at 2:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Private property isn't the city's problem but they will hound you to mow your yard. And I think you're not allowed to park cars on the grass either. What a load of crap! I wonder if Price Chopper could get carts that have wheels lock if they leave the parking lot? I've seen those somewhere. It was like an electric fence type thing. It boils down to some common courtesy in dealing with other peoples' property. Good luck, Price Chopper. I think you'll need it.
Posted by crackinsack (anonymous) on June 25, 2008 at 2:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I really wish people weren't so lazy. If I didn't have a car and couldn't physically carry all my groceries home I would certainly bring the cart back after unloading at home. As for throwing them in the ditch...having more trash around probably makes 'em feel more at home. You know the old trailer-park saying..."The more trash in the creek, the better the stink!"
Ol' Man Kelley is a good guy. It's a shame he has to be troubled with such things.
Posted by stevo (anonymous) on June 25, 2008 at 4:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Too bad that Ann Mayo can't (or maybe can) get ahold of that..She was eager to get to the rural people about their septic or Lagoons...and their way that they lived in the country..Maybe our so called commisioners Agler and Longbine could drive her in one of their many dealer tagged fancy tax free vehicles they have and take her for a ride..I would think that the environmental health could inforce something...but than it would take money and maybe if all these car dealers and family members would have to in their lifetime pay some personal property taxes we would have some more money. The SUV that Longbine drives would probably be worth at lease $1000 + a year in taxes....Back onto the subject...It has always been an eyesore for over 30 years and has to be somekind of health issue or the city should have some inforcement.. Look hard and step on some toes Zimmerman..
Posted by emporialifer (anonymous) on June 25, 2008 at 5:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I wonder if any of the people who use the carts and do not return them consider their actions STEALING because that is what they are doing. Guess what - those carts cost money and guess how those costs have to be covered when the grocery store has to send people on special trips to retrieve abandoned carts or buy new carts, that's right, cost of food goes up. Just my thoughts.
Posted by rdgrey (anonymous) on June 25, 2008 at 5:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I applaud price chopper with putting up with the ones who try to ruin a good thing by letting ppl use the carts to take their goods home. Only takes a few to ruin it and infact if it is not returned then yes should be considered stolen property. As for the grass and trash on the private property, if I let my yard get away can I argue that the city should be taking care of it for FREE? No, it is the property owners who should be taking care of it and should be fined for it. If they continuously provide maintanance to the ditch it would not be that bad since you are talking trash that has been there for years. Maintain it once or twice a year and would be much better than it is. Or let the city do it and bill the owners, give them a 30 day notice.
Posted by mds (anonymous) on June 25, 2008 at 7:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Fine the property owner $500 plus cost to have of hiring a lawn service to clean it up.
There should be no difference between business owners and residential homes.
Posted by orlando (anonymous) on June 25, 2008 at 8:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Does the Aldi company have a patent on their carts---you put a quarter in the slot and get your cart, you get the quarter back when you return the cart to the lineup. I have never seen a cart loose in their lot or anywhere else.
Posted by USNretired (anonymous) on June 26, 2008 at 9:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The city should take care of the ditch and send them a bill.
Posted by crackinsack (anonymous) on June 26, 2008 at 10:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Why not put the picture with this article? For now, it can be found here:
http://72.3.155.221/img/photos/2008/06/2...
This probably won't work, but worth a try...
<A HREF="http://72.3.155.221/img/photos/2008/06/26/6-17_carts.jpg"><IMG SRC="http://72.3.155.221/img/photos/2008/06/26/6-17_carts.jpg" BORDER=0></A>
Posted by glarson (Gwen Larson) on June 26, 2008 at 12:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The photo is up now. Sorry for the technical difficulties.
Gwen Larson
Managing Editor
Posted by create (anonymous) on June 26, 2008 at 2:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The question to ask Zimmerman is why the city hasn't sent the owners of the property a clean-up notice. I'd be interested in his answer. Also, I agree with Stevo. Why isn't Ann Mayo making a stink about this like she did about lagoons in rural areas? Perhaps the Gazette should call and ask for her input.
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