A local attorney who is a candidate for Emporia City Commission has been cited for allegedly stealing a dog.
James Bordonaro received a Municipal Court ticket for theft. Bordonaro said he took the dog as collateral because the owner has been unable to pay him for past services. The dog has since been returned.
Bordonaro said Tuesday he has apologized to the dog’s owner, Jamaal Dorsey, and admitted to him it was a stupid thing to do.
The police received a report of a dog theft at 10:30 p.m. Thursday at 915 Merchant St. Samuel Gardenhire alerted police to the theft.
“I hate this situation because James has always been nice to me,” Gardenhire said in an interview Tuesday. “But it wasn’t right to take the dog and it wasn’t right to trespass.”
Gardenhire is Dorsey’s former stepfather. Dorsey used to live in Emporia but now lives in Iola.
“It’s his dog but we keep it here in Emporia,” Gardenhire said.
The dog is a mastiff named Titan.
“It’s a large dog,” Gardenhire said. “James said at one point he would try sell it for $2,000, but the dog cost $1,000 when it was purchased.”
Bordonaro said that Gardenhire and Dorsey’s mother have worked for him at his residence. The couple have since separated. Gardenhire said he’s done yard work in the past and has worked on Bordonaro’s patio.
Bordonaro said one evening Dorsey got into some legal trouble when he was pulled over on K-99. Dorsey’s mother asked Bordonaro to help her son, Bordonaro said.
Bordonaro said he paid to have the car towed to Gardenhire’s home. Bordonaro said Dorsey has since become a client and he helped Dorsey with some legal problems in Wichita.
Bordonaro said he hadn’t received the money Dorsey owed him in the last eight or nine months. Gardenhire said Dorsey owed Bordonaro $125.
Bordonaro also said that Gardenhire was planning to move and wasn’t sure if his new residence would allow dogs. Gardenhire said that wasn’t how he understood the conversation. He said if he moved somewhere else the dog would come with him, but he has no plans to move.
Bordonaro said he offered to take the dog as collateral but Gardenhire was noncommittal. Bordonaro said he took the dog anyway and left a note saying that he was doing so as collateral and that Gardenhire should call him.
Gardenhire said when he returned home from working at the Village Inn on Thursday, he saw the note. He called the police, who returned the dog to him.
Gardenhire said Bordonaro had talked with him previous to the theft and inquired if Dorsey had a vehicle that could be used as collateral. When he was told no, Bordonaro asked about taking Titan.
“I told him he couldn’t do it,” Gardenhire said.
Gardenhire said he and Dorsey are willing to drop the charges and that he hopes to remain friends with Bordonaro.
For now the ticket remains in effect and Bordonaro is scheduled to appear in Municipal Court March 17.
Bordonaro finished eighth out of 12 candidates in Tuesday’s city commission primary. He advanced to the general election April 5.
chasecountycrawfords (anonymous) says...
wow...on many levels....just wow...
March 2, 2011 at 1:26 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
doubt_it (anonymous) says...
Really?????????
Wow!!!!
Not a candidate that I would vote for.
Glad Titan is back where he should be.
March 2, 2011 at 1:28 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
railroadhorn (anonymous) says...
Over a debt for $125?! This is not someone I want overseeing public monies.
March 2, 2011 at 1:39 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
EmporiaRocks (anonymous) says...
Oh, James...what were you thinking? I know, I know...you weren't.
March 2, 2011 at 1:42 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Landa (anonymous) says...
wow...attorney? city commission? didn't he run for congress at one time too? yikes
March 2, 2011 at 1:59 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Sanford (anonymous) says...
Taking a mastiff as collateral? That's some funny sh*t. I mean literally; lots of it!!
March 2, 2011 at 2:02 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Free4all (anonymous) says...
Can we throw out the 400 votes he got yesterday? I am sure the 400 people who DID vote would love to. What in the world are you thinking of, even if you were not running for office, it was still STUPID!
Glad it wasn't $1,000.00, he would have held his mother hostage.
Bob Grey
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March 2, 2011 at 2:10 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Pinkpintopony (anonymous) says...
This is so absolutely ridiculous that I can't help but think there is more to the story....
March 2, 2011 at 2:21 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
scarlett01_98 (anonymous) says...
seriously???? seriously???? what a loser.....
March 2, 2011 at 2:35 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
dj2879 (anonymous) says...
Checking the calendar to see if the date reads April 1st...
March 2, 2011 at 2:36 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
johncanyon (anonymous) says...
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March 2, 2011 at 3:18 p.m. ( permalink )
jasper007 (anonymous) says...
I didn't vote for him. Looks like 1 less candidate for the BEST job in the city!!!!
March 2, 2011 at 3:28 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...
Come on ! You people are being a little hard on the man. It was just a dog, a big one, but a dog just the same. One of the Kennedy boys drove a car in the creek and killed a girl and it didn't hurt his political career.
March 2, 2011 at 3:45 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
sportsmama (anonymous) says...
There is a difference between an accident and doing something intentionally.. A dog may only be a dog to you.. but to some they are family.. I personally have had mine longer than I have had my 14 yr old child.. so she in my mind is one of my kids and I treat her as such.
My big question is if this dog is valued at $1,000 isn't that a felony?
March 2, 2011 at 4:12 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
asofterworld (anonymous) says...
It wasn't right to take the dog. However, I am not sure if you have ever seen the dog, but if you drive down the alley behind the house, the dog is in an overgrown yard covered with tires and hooked up to a tight chain. These are NOT good living conditions for the dog. Knowing Mr. Bordonaro, he was most likely attempting to save the dog from cruel owners. I don't think that this should be held against him. It was a bad decision, but one with good intentions I am sure. He still has my vote.
March 2, 2011 at 4:27 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
oh4theluvof (anonymous) says...
That's hilarious!!!
People, the man owed him money...legally. He apparently believes in people paying what they owe. I like that! I like that in a city commissioner, truthfully. I did vote to get him into the general election, and this may make me vote for him in the general.
This really sounds to me like a misunderstanding..that James thought he had permission and the other guy didn't think he gave it to him. I've had many conversations come back to bite me because the other person was a poor communicator. Haven't you? It also sounds like James returned the dog when he learned that things weren't what he thought they were, but he didn't learn that through the man contacting him and asking James what he thought was said. Apparently, the other guy just called the law in a knee-jerk reaction....something a bad communicator would do. Fault may lie on both sides, but it certainly doesn't appear to lie only on James to me.
March 2, 2011 at 4:42 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Free4all (anonymous) says...
Read the article "Bordonaro said he offered to take the dog as collateral but Gardenhire was noncommittal. Bordonaro said he took the dog anyway and left a note saying that he was doing so as collateral and that Gardenhire should call him."
So I see dogs all day when I drive through Emporia, should I expect to see him pick up ALL dogs in bad living conditions? NO! Just the one from the owner who owed him $125.00. Like one statement above, If the dog is worth $1000.00, should this be a felony?
Anouther question?
If this happened last Thursday, why wait till right after the primary to print this. The police report would have been on the desk Friday morning for reporters to pick up. Wish I would have known BEFORE Tuesday.
Bob Grey
March 2, 2011 at 4:48 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
oh4theluvof (anonymous) says...
The man who isn't paying what he owes is actively stealing from him every day. Legally, he can be charging interest. How much is the amount owed plus interest by now? Would that be a felony?
March 2, 2011 at 5:05 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
MrCmonkeeDo (anonymous) says...
Awwwwwkward!
March 2, 2011 at 5:16 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
draco (anonymous) says...
If he doesn't have any better judgement than that, do we really want him to be a communtiy leader? He's a lawyer. He should know the law. If someone owed me money, do you think I'd get by with taking their television as collateral? NO! I'd get thrown in jail for theft. Same difference.
March 2, 2011 at 5:21 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
MrCmonkeeDo (anonymous) says...
"Legally, he can be charging interest."
MrC is no expert but is pretty sure that the above statement would only be true if there was a contract that stated interest would be owed and the rate of said interest. Doesn't sound like there was any kind of contract.
March 2, 2011 at 5:26 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
barefooting (anonymous) says...
One of the Kennedys killed a girl because he was jealous when she went out with someone else. Murder didnt stop their popularity, why should stealing a dog slow down is career, oh, never mind, hes days in politics is already over. Loser
March 2, 2011 at 5:31 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
create (anonymous) says...
Wow, James Bordonaro, this is like 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon only between you and Ted Kennedy, hoowee, zero degrees.
I'm with oh4 on this. I'll vote for him again. For crying out loud, these deadbeats owed this man money for his services.
March 2, 2011 at 5:43 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jackslap (anonymous) says...
He was sending the dog to Michael Vick
March 2, 2011 at 5:44 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
oh4theluvof (anonymous) says...
MrC,
I don't sign any contract with doctors, dentists, chiropractors or optometrists but they will all charge interest on balances carried over certain numbers of days. I think James can legally do the same.
Still doesn't change that the dude has been stealing from him and that he was trying to work with the guy (obviously trying to stay within legal boundaries since he asked about it) without having to drag him to court and sue him for payment and cost all of us $500 to get $125.
March 2, 2011 at 5:56 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
theavenger (anonymous) says...
no wonder people are leaving this town to many small town loser's that jump on a whem to tear someone or something down i personally know both parties and it just goes to show you the good guy always loses armagedan already here and for the officer get a clue go after the real scum that you create and James your to good for this town. Don't let the jealousy bring you down,,, guilty for having a heart. Superman please save this town.
March 2, 2011 at 6:38 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Tell (anonymous) says...
A lawyer taking the law into his own hands now thats classic!
March 2, 2011 at 6:49 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
theavenger (anonymous) says...
Sorry but this dog was living with Micheal Vicks. Can't see leaving a note when you are stealing. City: are you really that hard up????
March 2, 2011 at 6:52 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
REWBA (anonymous) says...
If someone owed me money and they haven't paid in months and they told me they were moving, I would want something of value as collateral to ensure I got my money too. Some people try to procrastinate on a debt until it is forgotten or they move and leave no forwarding address. You got to get something so valuable to the deadbeat that he will break down and pay the $125 and get their thousand dollar dog back. Bordonaro is a lot nicer than I would have been. I would have never helped him when he got stopped. The cops could have just impounded the vehicle and Gardenhire, Dorsey, and his mother would have come up with the money to get it back from the cops faster then three or four months.
It just goes to show that no good deed goes unpunished. :-)
March 2, 2011 at 7:24 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
hometownkid (anonymous) says...
Boy this guy steals a dog and another candidate gets gets fired for stealing. can't we find better people to make it through the primary at least??? Just what this city doesn't need right now is a thief for city commission.
Let's get our act together folks.
March 2, 2011 at 8:51 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ToxicPink (anonymous) says...
Who got fired for stealing?
March 2, 2011 at 9 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ToxicPink (anonymous) says...
Who got fired for stealing?
March 2, 2011 at 9 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
booker5m (anonymous) says...
Man owed me money I get what I could also. Wasn't too long ago a car dealer here in town when out and took back what he said was his
March 2, 2011 at 9:17 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
goodoleboy (anonymous) says...
Mark this one down, I'm speechless
March 2, 2011 at 9:32 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Free4all (anonymous) says...
I have had several people owe me money and still owe me. I know them, they work hard for each pay check just to make ends meet. Ya after putting time into working on their computers I could just take it back. I know in the back of my mind that if they could pay me they would. I would rather see them pay rent and put food on the table and pay me when they can. I too have been in that spot and many people have helped us. If I really wanted to get my money from someone who owes me, there are legal and respectable coarses to take other than to just take something from him. What bugs me more is he took a pet. I am sure others like me see pets as part of our family. If it was a T.V. or computer... I might not be so harsh. But someone take my Tiger(cat) from me, WATCH OUT!
March 2, 2011 at 9:58 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
theavenger (anonymous) says...
this man should be commended at least the dog would have gotten fed but you probably would like to see him chemicallly dependent how sad
March 2, 2011 at 10:37 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
GreatDayInEmporia (anonymous) says...
Truth is ohso much stranger than fiction!
Mr. Bordonaro seems to have committed political self-sabotage. Too bad it happened at the expense of helpless Titan.
Why would he do this mere days before a primary election?? If he's been waiting for more than eight months for payment, he really couldn't wait another week without snatching the dog?
It seems strange that a respected legal professional would make a decision so seemingly rash and ethically questionable.
Hire the guy to do some yard work, geez. A day or two of labor in reparation for services rendered could have easily solved this dilemma. Mr. Bozonaro could take care of some spring cleaning and Mr. Dorsey could pay his long-overdue debt.
March 3, 2011 at 12:02 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
neighbor (anonymous) says...
Mud slinging politics have arrived.............
March 3, 2011 at 12:24 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
booker5m (anonymous) says...
Old Jack got censored lol
March 3, 2011 at 7:09 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
create (anonymous) says...
Howcum Jack got censored and not this thread?
Something funny going on.
March 3, 2011 at 9:28 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
yev_kassem (anonymous) says...
To create and others that are not only defending Mr. Bordonaro, but are applauding him. I am shocked to hear this. Fact is, James committed a crime. He stole something from someone. The reasons behind why he did are irrelevant. He made the choice to steal. The fact that you want someone who openly steals things as a representative of our city is deplorable.
March 3, 2011 at 9:48 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
booker5m (anonymous) says...
How is it stealing trying to get what's owed? He gave the Guy a chance
March 3, 2011 at 9:57 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
yev_kassem (anonymous) says...
booker---
Are you serious?
He took something that wasn't his. When you do that it is called stealing.
March 3, 2011 at 10:03 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
booker5m (anonymous) says...
He was holding the dog till he was paid The Guy wasn't paying isn't that a theft of service? If you don't pay parking tickets didn't the city pass an oradance that they will put a boot on your car and hold the car hostage? Seems the same to me
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March 3, 2011 at 10:41 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
create (anonymous) says...
Absolutely, booker.
Yev, if you don't make your car payments, the bank will locate it and tow it away.
If you don't make your mortgage payments, the bank will repossess your house.
Landlords will actually change the locks on a rental and keep property until back rent is paid.
One of my tenants put his car title up at one of our local payday loan places. He was behind in the payments and one dark night, poof, the car disappeared. They hire people to repo property that has been used as collateral, and it happens every single day.
Bordonaro was owed money. He was merely getting it back in the form of collateral.
March 3, 2011 at 10:54 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
yev_kassem (anonymous) says...
booker--
I am not saying that what the other guy did was right. If you owe a bill you should pay it but it does not excuse what Bordanaro did. Two wrongs don't make a right....(I know 3 lefts do)
create--
In all of those instances you provided people gave that as collateral (or actually own it in the landlords case). They have agreements that say if they don't pay that the business can come take the property. That is what happened with your tenant. He signed something that says I will pay you back or you can have my car. He didn't and they followed through. That is legal.
Bordanaro did not have a written agreement that the dog was collateral. He just took it. That is stealing. You can try to justify it all you want but James stole something. He is in the wrong. It is illegal and I certainly don't want someone who blatantly steals something to act as my commissioner.
And the real sad thing in all this, is that in his line of work....he should most definitely know better. His actions scream apathy and stupidity or both.
March 3, 2011 at 11:14 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Quack (anonymous) says...
create;
The difference in the things you site compared to this instance is that in each case, car, house, rental, a contract is typically signed, penalties are know up front. Even with payday loans and car title loans, there is collateral agreed upon. I doubt that anything was said about taking a dog, or any other type of property in this matter.
March 3, 2011 at 11:19 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Free4all (anonymous) says...
Maybe I am being harsh, but I felt left down. Bordonaro came to my house before the last election dressed down asking questions of what I thought needed done to help the community. He looked and sounded like one that was wanting to help the working class. Then this comes out and WHAM! Just another lawyer from the same mold as others I met. For $125 he could have wrote it off on taxes as a loss, he could have taken legal action and garnished his wages or pension, like above, put him to work like he has before. Now I sit here thinking I wasted a vote. There is no excuse for doing what he did as a professional lawyer he should know better. The dog in question was never put up as colateral. When someone owes you money you don’t go pilfering through someone’s stuff and just take whatever you can find of value. We are a civilized nation with proper avenues to go though. With his job experience he knows this but chose to take someone’s pet. Does this fella have a family with kids? Was this done in front of kids? Could have been traumatic to someone who loves their pets. Pets are something you cherish and love, that is the civilized way of life. It isn't like cattle with a true value, its a family pet. Look at your dog or cat and tell me their monetary value. Then do you want this guy representing you in government.
March 3, 2011 at 11:21 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Quack (anonymous) says...
OK, I was a few minutes late. but yev is right, seems there was no agreement to take something to force payment. Isn't that what a small claims action is about? The candidate is a defense attorney, he ought to understand the issue of taking something
March 3, 2011 at 11:26 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Buffalo_Breath (anonymous) says...
Emporia politics are Ruff !!
March 3, 2011 at 11:42 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
newtoemporia (anonymous) says...
I'm with yev_kassem
Repossession of a house requires court proceedings.
Under the Kansas Landlord Tenant Act, a landlord cannot evict, change the locks and hold a tenant's property without court proceedings.
As a lawyer, he should know better than to take anything without a written agreement or court order.
March 3, 2011 at 11:50 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
create (anonymous) says...
The story doesn't say anything about a written agreement, but there sure was a lot of talk about collateral, just nothing in writing.
Okay, okay, I give. Bordonaro was wrong. He says he did a stupid thing. Now he has possibly ruined his political chances.
Bottom line is that Dorsey is a deadbeat!
March 3, 2011 at 12:18 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
booker5m (anonymous) says...
He asked if he could have the dog for collateral and was told no that would make me think he was getting ready to run. I will agree with him running for office not the smartest thing to do
March 3, 2011 at 12:40 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...
wonder if there are any more stories like this one waiting to come out before the general election?
March 3, 2011 at 12:45 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
booker5m (anonymous) says...
Just keeps getting better lol
March 3, 2011 at 12:49 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
doubt_it (anonymous) says...
So you automatically classify Dorsey as a dead beat? Why, because maybe he chose to buy food, or pay rent. Does it say anywhere in this story that Dorsey is a drug user? How quick you are to judge people. Yes, Dorsey should have paid the money that was owed, but who knows what the circumstances are. Bordonaro should have done things differently, but again, who knows what the circumstances are. Too bad for all involved, including Titan.
March 3, 2011 at 12:51 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
booker5m (anonymous) says...
I am waiting to see if some kind of blow up after the Jack comments last night ;)
March 3, 2011 at 12:58 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jamesbordonaro (James Bordonaro) says...
I have resisted commenting on this story when it first appeared but have now issued a press release to the Gazette and KVOE to clarify the actual facts.
Suffice it to say, I and Mr. Dorsey wanted to treat this as a private matter and he does not wish to pursue charges. There was never an actual intention to steal the dog or hold it for collateral. I only took the dog to ensure it wouldn't suffer from the snow and cold and left a note with my cell # and immediately attempted to locate Mr. Gardenhire at his work.
Mr. Dorsey has asked me to continue my campaign and I plan to appear at the Chamber of Commerce forum on March 7th and will answers any questions on the matter. I appreciate the support of those commentators who were not willing to pass judgment without knowing all the facts.
March 3, 2011 at 12:59 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
oh4theluvof (anonymous) says...
Free4All
Obviously, you have an attachment to a pet that you are projecting into this. Read the article.
Dorsey lives in Iola, The dog lives here with Gardenhire. Bordanaro approached Gardenhire to ask if he could take something of Dorsey's as collateral on his debt. All there was was the dog but Gardenhire wouldn't say yes or no.
Bordanaro should have assumed the answer was no if it wasn't clearly yes, but if Gardenhire moved, there went his avenue of getting his money. Dorsey owed the money, not Gardenhire. Hiring Gardenhire to pay off Dorsey's debt would only leave Dorsey owing Gardenhire. Too disconnected.
Why is this so hard?
March 3, 2011 at 1:03 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
HenryVIII (anonymous) says...
Jimmy "the alleged dog burglar" Bordanaro still took the law into his own hands by "rescuing" the dog. Why didn't he call animal control (or the cops) if he thought the dog was suffering? It's not his job to go around "rescuing" pets. Did he even have dog food at his place for it to eat? Is he qualified to determine if an animal is danger and provide care for that animal?
Pets are living creatures sorta like people's children. If I saw a kid playing in the snow, could I just pick it up and take it home because I thought it was in danger? No, I'd probably call the cops instead.
"No, officer, I didn't kidnap the kid. I was worried it would suffer from the snow and cold. Hey, I left a ransom note, so it's all good, right?"
oh4theluvof,
Your last sentence... That's what she said. LOL!
'enry
March 3, 2011 at 1:53 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
create (anonymous) says...
doubt_it,
you obviously have never been owed money by people who continually have a sob story as to why they can't pay you. This has been a long-standing debt by Dorsey who should have at least paid ten bucks a payday to repay his debt. Why is that so hard? I wonder if he smokes.
Yes, he is a deadbeat like anyone else who doesn't pay what they owe. Do you suppose he is buying dogfood to feed this large dog with a big appetite? Tell me another one.
Theft of services is a serious crime, and Dorsey is guilty of theft of services. If I were Bordonaro, I'd take him to small claims court. But play hell getting your money. Getting a judgement is one thing; getting your money is clearly another.
Several years ago, I had a tenant take off owing two months rent. He had many sob stories and promises. Stupid me for feeling sorry for him. Finally, one day when I went once more to collect, he was gone, lock, stock and barrel. He left behind a bunch of filled ashtrays.
I obtained a judgement. Lucky me. Have I received one penny? Nope. Never will either, and I can't even take it off my taxes because it is income I never received in the first place. The case and his social security number sits with a collector. You can't get blood out of a turnip.
March 3, 2011 at 1:54 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Free4all (anonymous) says...
Henry
You have touched my heart and my funny bone all in one comment. Good job!
$125.00 to a lawyer, is that not what they make in one hour? is he that hard up to pay his rent or feed his family to take someones dog that owes him? No, I am sorry, you write off a dept at tax time. I see 100's of dogs in this town out in the cold and snow during the winter. Where are you for them?
I too have a business plus work a full time job. Yes sometimes I do a job in agreement of payment later and sometimes it does not come. But in my heart I know I did the right thing in helping and trusting people. Yes I do hope all would pay but things do happen and sometimes people cant. I am not going to change and restrict who I trust, You can write off a buisiness losss at tax time. Not once has it ever been a thought to chase down anyone, or talk to their friends about keeping articles or pets as collateral. It is not $1000 or 10,000, its only $125. If you and your campain are that desperate than I will my self give you that money as a donation and I will have that to write off next year. Can you work over an extra hour at the court house?
People are always going to owe someone in this crazy world. Sometimes you just have one that slips by, sometimes you just have to close your eyes and let it go. Was that $125.00 worth it now? No, look what it has started. No I do not believe the "help the poor puppy" reason. Put on your seatbelt cause hear it is, HenryVIII, I am behind you! (wow, never before would think this day would come) Good comments.
Have a blessed day!
March 3, 2011 at 2:25 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jamesbordonaro (James Bordonaro) says...
Since the Gazette does not yet appear to have commented on my press release, I am providing it to the general public. Please access the following like to my campaign page on Facebook.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bordona...
March 3, 2011 at 2:46 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
chrissylynn_2 (anonymous) says...
oh MrCmonkeeDo i have not seen much of you commenting, and i have missed it.
March 3, 2011 at 2:47 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Buffalo_Breath (anonymous) says...
"the alleged dog burglar"
I think it's "alleged dog-napper", Henry.
Not so much on the "alleged" maybe, either.
March 3, 2011 at 3:17 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
oograh (anonymous) says...
Mr. Bordonaro, With all due respect, your version does not really hold water. Being that you are (a) a lawyer, and.(b) a candidate for public office one would think you would know the law in such situations. If you see a dog in in a position such as you describe you call Animal Control. Otherwise you run the risk of getting a charge of animal theft. Other evidence points to this being fabricated too. In the story it was said using the dog as collateral was brought up before. You claim you left a note, but it was "missing" when you checked on it. These would lead me to think your intensions were more dubious than a dog rescue. Either way taking the dog was not the legal thing to do.
March 3, 2011 at 3:35 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jlhart22 (anonymous) says...
I will only speak positively of this man's character. 1st off we obviously do not have the whole story here, and as no one has heard exactly what Mr. Bordonaro has said we have no way of knowing if we have the whole story. Secondly I applied for a job with said lawyer and even though my qualifications did not fit the position he spent almost 2 hours on the phone with me helping me develop my resume! He did now know me. He had never met me. He is a lawyer who gets paid preciously for his time, yet he spent two hours helping me develop a resume. Who else would do that? Everyone makes mistakes and I am betting that he knew the law and felt that he had legal grounds with this issue or he never would have done this. He knows better than anyone I'm sure how these things can get blown out of proportion. I did not make it down to vote in the primaries, but I will be out in the general election voting for Mr. Bordonaro, and I wish him the best.
March 3, 2011 at 4:42 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jlhart22 (anonymous) says...
I did just read his press release and have to say that it seems pretty unlikely that it is as bad as they make it out here if the owner of the dog would still like for Mr. Bordonaro to play a role in transporting the dog. Obviously if they were concerned with him taking the dog this is not something that they would continue to have him do.
March 3, 2011 at 4:48 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
newtoemporia (anonymous) says...
What did the note say? The Gazette reports that the note said the dog was taken as collateral and that Mr. Gardenhire should call Mr. Bordonaro.
In Mr. Bordonaro's press release, it simply says he left a note with a phone number. However, Mr. Bordonaro does state "it was never my intention to permanently keep the dog as collateral for any private debts between myself."
Was the dog temporarily taken as collateral? Or, was the dog taken because of weather conditions? I seem to have read conflicting messages. Either way, was it legal?
"I went by Mr. Gardenhirer’s apartment on the evening of February 24th to discuss whether he had had any recent contact with Mr. Dorsey." -- I can completely understand. Mr. Dorsey owed you money. You did not have a working phone number. You wanted to know if anyone had heard from Mr. Dorsey.
The following day you contacted Mr. Dorsey on Facebook. Then, you dismissed the debt. And, you apologized for taking the dog.
Do you have an iPhone, Android or any other phone with internet capabilities? If so, wouldn't it have been possible to send Mr. Dorsey a message on Facebook before taking a dog? Or, call Mr. Gardenhire at his employment's phone number before taking the dog? Or, as oograh stated, call Animal Control?
March 3, 2011 at 4:58 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
yev_kassem (anonymous) says...
jlhart22--
Everything you said is irrelevant. Bordanaro committed an illegal act. He is to blame for his stupid decison. No one else. No strange situation. He alone is at fault.
March 3, 2011 at 5:13 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
flyboy32 (anonymous) says...
This will probably make the "News of the Weird" column soon.
March 3, 2011 at 5:36 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
doubt_it (anonymous) says...
create -
Yes, I have been owed money by people for quite a long time and sometimes never have gotten it paid back. I have been on both ends of the stick (having been owed money and having owed money). I'm sure my life hasn't been as rosey as yours, but you know what, I do know what it feels like to be a human with sympathy. I feel for both parties involved, but still feel it was wrong to take the dog.
As to whether Mr. Dorsey smokes doesn't really matter. Yes, I do believe he should have paid back the money, even if it was a few dollars a week, but sometimes, no matter how hard you try, those few dollars are hard to come by. Yes, instead of getting a pack of cigarettes he could have given it to Mr Bordonaro, but sometimes as stupid as it seems, cigarettes can help you keep your santity in an otherwise insane life.
I do know Mr Dorsey and know that he hasn't had the best that life has to offer. That doesn't make him right, but it doesn't mean he's a deadbeat, either. Walk a mile in his shoes before you go passing judgement.
March 3, 2011 at 6:03 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
oograh (anonymous) says...
I have never met either man. I am holding Mr. Bordonaro to a higher level of compentance than I probably would your average joe. If the dog was taken out of fear of harm it is at least understandable, but still the wrong move. If it was collateral, there are many avenues he could have taken before stealing a dog. He could sue in small claims court, or since he is a business, turned him over to a collection agency. Those would have been the right and legal paths. Two wrongs do not make a right.
March 3, 2011 at 6:28 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
oh4theluvof (anonymous) says...
Well, if the Emporia Gazette said it, it must be right. They would absolutely know better than the parties involved and they never get things wrong or word things in ways that end up being misleading.............
Pssshhht!
March 3, 2011 at 9:10 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
oograh (anonymous) says...
Yeah. Stupid mainstream media..... or something.... with their stupid "quotes" and "evidence."
March 3, 2011 at 10:09 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
newtoemporia (anonymous) says...
Mr. Dorsey was left a voice message but he's "disappointed that he was not personally contacted by the Gazette prior to publishing its story as he would have preferred the matter had remained private."
Jeez, the gall of The Emporia Gazette. Don't you know voice messages aren't acceptable? In order to personally contact someone, you must friend them on Facebook. :-)
And, let's not even start on investigating an alleged illegal activity. Come on ... a newspaper reporting on news?! ... Unacceptable. :-)
LOL
March 3, 2011 at 11:47 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...
Kangaroo court is now in session !
Head judge yev_kassem presiding.
"yev_kassem (anonymous) says...
To create and others that are not only defending Mr. Bordonaro, but are applauding him. I am shocked to hear this. Fact is, James committed a crime. He stole something from someone. The reasons behind why he did are irrelevant. He made the choice to steal. The fact that you want someone who openly steals things as a representative of our city is deplorable."
yev and all you other judges, "THE FACT IS" a man is innocent UNTIL proven guilty in a court of law in our proud country. Court date is March 17th?
Speculate all you want people, voice your opinions, but to state as fact someone broke the law before their court date is wrong, wrong, wrong.
March 4, 2011 at 6:20 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
oograh (anonymous) says...
Uh, he admitted to taking the dog.
March 4, 2011 at 6:43 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...
oograh,
Did he admit to breaking the law?
No. Under the 6th amendment of the U.S. Bill Of Rights all ACCUSED OF A CRIME are guaranteed a trial.
March 4, 2011 at 6:59 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...
and that trail is to be in a court of law, not on the Gazette forum pages.
March 4, 2011 at 7:08 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...
And as this is all speculation, I had to chuckle at yev's statement;
"The fact that you want someone who openly steals things as a representative of our city is deplorable." chuckle !
I'd just a soon know a candidate is a thief at the get go, then to find out afterwards. Did you say "openly" because you know something about another candidate who's business dealings may seem questionable?
Ah yes, as neighbor said,"mud slinging politics have arrived"
March 4, 2011 at 7:42 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
create (anonymous) says...
doubt_it,
I most certainly HAVE walked a mile in Dorsey's shoes. Many miles. You don't know me or what I have been through in my life. Yet you presume.
The day I had to sell my treasured banjo to pay an electric bill is the day I stopped feeling down and out and promised myself that would never happen again and it never has. A poor-me attitude only gets you further into the poorhouse. Notice I didn't say I borrowed the money. No, I sold something of value. Pawn shops are full of that idea.
Lots of people can point to not having the greatest life, but they pay their bills and are good citizens and don't leave their dogs out in the snow.
If you know him so well, why don't you loan him the money to pay his lawyer? Pawn something.
March 4, 2011 at 7:44 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
doubt_it (anonymous) says...
create,
you are correct, i don't know you and again, you don't know me. i have also had to sell precious items in order to pay bills and put food on table, work multiple jobs also. you would not believe all the things the pawn shops take for a couple of dollars.
i have also been to the blood plasma places to sell my blood & plasma. yes, i have had to juggle bills in order to get by and i did vow to myself to not let this keep happening. i went back to school and received my nursing license.
no, i haven't had the greatest life, but it's made me who i am. i believe myself to be a good citizen. i give to the community when i can and volunteer my time on different projects.
and, how do you know i haven't loaned him money? i have helped him out in the past. had he asked, i probably would have helped him out this time also.
you believe whatever you want to about me, i don't care. but it still doesn't make him a deadbeat
March 4, 2011 at 7:55 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
REWBA (anonymous) says...
There is a lesson here. Quit feeling sorry for people. It only causes you to do something that you wouldn't do for a peer. Pity is pitiful. People need to be allowed to help themselves out of the mess they get themselves into. That is the only way that they will learn and grow. Helping lowlife scumbags only extends their misery into your own life. Sure, you can run to their assistance and bail them out and tow their vehicle then allow them to muck up your yard as repayment. That won't stop them from buying a thousand dollar dog and chain it to a tree in the back yard.
No good deed goes unpunished! Remember that.
March 4, 2011 at 8:42 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
oograh (anonymous) says...
Steve, did he admit to taking someones property without their consent? That is breaking the law.
The constitution prevents the government from declaring you guilty before a trial. I am not bound by such restrictions. Nice try though.
REWBA, everyone deserves a second chance. After that though it becomes enabling. ;-)
March 4, 2011 at 8:52 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
netloafer (anonymous) says...
It seems I'm not the only guy in town with pooch problems. Well, Jack and I aren't leaving and James is going to stay on the ballot. Good!
I'm hard pressed to believe that Mr. Bordnaro has done something tantamount to stealing the gold from Ft. Knox.
This may even be a case of no good deed goes unpunished.
What I find especially amusing is that many of our political leaders have been picking our pockets for years. Their reward seems to be the best seats at civc functions and having folks genuflect as they pass them in the halls or on the streets.
March 4, 2011 at 8:56 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
create (anonymous) says...
Right on, Netloafer! And your alliteration, "pooch problems" is a gem!
REWBA, Well said, and you said it best right here:
"That won't stop them from buying a thousand dollar dog and chain it to a tree in the back yard."
March 4, 2011 at 9:10 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
methusla (anonymous) says...
Questionable, mud slinging , manipulated politics in Emporia !
Who woulda thunk it !!
Nah, not in Emporia !
People, questionable, mud slinging, manipulating politics / voting has been around as long as the history of politics !!
What you as voting citizens of Emporia need to ask yourselves is, was this " breaking story " an attempt by the Gazette or the reporter to discredit a City Commission Candidate .
And do you really believe that underhanded (dirty / influenced ) politics, etc., are not done in Emporia ?
The only way you will stop the ( underhanded / dirty ) politics and influence of government and your lives, is by getting out ....attending public commission meetings, knowing how the commissioners are voting on important City / taxpayer business and knowing who is running for public office, who they will be loyal to and if they will really represent you and all of the people and then deciding which one(s) you believe will fairly and judiciously represent you and all of the people and will say NO if necessary .... then you as registered voters need to get of your arses, no matter where you live and do all of the above and then VOTE, VOTE, VOTE for whomever you believe will do the most good and benefit all of you / us Emporians, this is the only true way you will ever have a hand in YOUR government and the governing of you lives !
March 4, 2011 at 9:43 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
allintogether (anonymous) says...
I guess the lesson here is "Let the dogs freeze". A few things linger in my mind from reviewing the Gazette article and Mr. Bordonaro's account is where does Mr. Gardenhire's account fit in? If Gardenhire's fairly specific statements are so patently false then I am sure Mr. Bordonaro knows the procedure for suing for slander.
I agree with the statement(s) about the 6th amendment as anyone can be charged with anything at anytime. It is appropriate for the Gazette to report on the citation but I think it is inappropriate for the Gazette to report on the statements floating around before any judge or jury has heard the case no matter how relatively high the defendant's profile.
March 4, 2011 at 9:44 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
REWBA (anonymous) says...
A thief will not leave a note....Unless, that thief was a diabolical genius knowing that should he ever be caught, the note might be used as evidence to his kindness and compassion exonerating any and all culpability for the crime of dognapping? Hmmmm
March 4, 2011 at 9:45 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
yev_kassem (anonymous) says...
Steve--
He admitted to taking something that wasn't his. That is stealing and it is wrong and illegal.
March 4, 2011 at 9:59 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
methusla (anonymous) says...
Lets get straight on what the meaning of the word " deadbeat " really is, before anyone defends the word deadbeat as it pertains to any certain person, shall we !
Definition of DEADBEAT
1: loafer
2: one who persistently fails to pay personal debts or expenses
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictio...
Now I leave it up to you whether a person is a dead beat or not ! But if any person persistently does not pay their personal debts or expenses and fails to make any attempt or payment arrangement to pay their debts or what they owe, then it would seem to me deadbeat would certainly apply !
March 4, 2011 at 10:01 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...
The Gazette reporter used the word stealing in his reporting.
The charge was "theft".
If we are going to throw out definitions of words here:
"A person is guilty of theft, if he dishonestly appropriates property belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it".
Now I'm not an attorney , but I belong to the bar, and it seems to me no intent can be proved, hence NOT GUILTY !
March 4, 2011 at 10:38 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
yev_kassem (anonymous) says...
"There was never an actual intention to steal the dog or hold it for collateral. I only took the dog..."
That is directly from James himself.
He never meant to actually steal it, he just, uh, did.
It wasn't his and he took it. He stole it. Period. End of story.
March 4, 2011 at 10:56 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...
I would bet all on here a dollar to a dog turd, (pun intended) that charges are dropped, and in the mean time a candidate is tarnished.
How many more stories on other candidates can we count on?
March 4, 2011 at 11:07 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
oograh (anonymous) says...
So basically I can take whatever I want from you as long as I leave a note saying I will give it back? Good to know.
No no officer his car was getting rain on it I just drove it to my garage to keep it safe. I left a note with some chalk, but it must have washed away.
March 4, 2011 at 11:08 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
newtoemporia (anonymous) says...
Was the dog taken as collateral?
To my understanding, the legal way to hold something as collateral is if:
both parties sign a document describing the loan in detail
an agreement that, should the loan not be repaid in X amount of time, collateral will be made available to the lender
describing the item(s) available for collateral,
the price associated with the items(s) available for collateral,
Signed by both parties,
Notarized
And, I also believe it's against the law to trespass to obtain the collateral.
March 4, 2011 at 11:11 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
yev_kassem (anonymous) says...
Steve--
You're right. Charges might be dropped. It doesn't change the fact that he committed the act. That is the part I have a problem with. He is a grown a$$ man. He should have known better. We aren't talking about some 8 year old kid. We are talking about an adult, a grown-up, a lawyer for crying out loud who did something extremely stupid.
March 4, 2011 at 11:22 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
create (anonymous) says...
Lots of argument on this thread, me included. I think it's time for a break. You will all appreciate this and even see some of ourselves on this video. It's a real winner.
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.p...
March 4, 2011 at 11:28 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
methusla (anonymous) says...
I will ask, Is the reporting of this incident true unbiased journalism, an attempt by someone to discredit a candidate for political gain or is this the best journalistic news reporting the Gazette can come up with ?
Hmmmm, just wondering !!
March 4, 2011 at 12:42 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
emporiahelper (anonymous) says...
I heard that Jennell was recently fired from her job at walburns! WOW
March 4, 2011 at 1:01 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
yev_kassem (anonymous) says...
meth--
Ever think that maybe the Gazette is just reporting on an incident that people might care about. Not everything is some great conspiracy theory. Maybe none of the other candidates did or at least weren't caught and cited for doing something stupid during this election process. So far it looks like the rest of the candidates have at least kept their noses clean during the campaigning process. Unfortunately for James he did not. It looks like some people's (maybe yours??) choice doesn't look as good now, does it?
March 4, 2011 at 1:01 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
doubt_it (anonymous) says...
create -
Yes, according to the definition that was posted by Methusla, Mr Dorsey is a "deadbeat". I will have to concede to that fact. I took offense to the word, period. I like a good argument, but I do know when to apologize when I am wrong. Hopefully we can have many more "arguments".
I still believe Mr Bordonaro was in the wrong by taking the dog. It doesn't matter if the dog cost $1000 or was free, he did not have the right to go into that yard without permission & take the dog.
I really don't think the Gazette had all their facts together before reporting the incident either. I am sure there is more to this than what meets the eye.
@ emporiahelper -
Jennell works for Genesis......has anybody heard if this is true or not? Or is this just another story that we don't have all the facts?
Hope everyone has a great day.
March 4, 2011 at 1:33 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
create (anonymous) says...
Thank you, doubt_it. As I said earlier on this thread, I did concede that Mr. Bordonaro was wrong for taking the dog.
Yes, hopefully we can argue over something else someday. Thanks again.
March 4, 2011 at 2:22 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
oograh (anonymous) says...
Ok. Let me see if I can grasp some of this circular logic. Calling a guy who admitted he took a dog without permission a "thief" is bad. Calling a guy who admittedly did not pay a bill a "deadbeat" is ok. Got it!
ELLEN! ELLEN!
March 4, 2011 at 3:03 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
emporiahelper (anonymous) says...
doubt_it: Yes walburns is now genesis, it really doesnt matter what its called. This seems to be a true fact. I work out there and I have heard it from several employees.
March 4, 2011 at 4:36 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
create (anonymous) says...
I always wanted to be on a TV.
Oh well. Here's another dog.
http://michclarke.posterous.com/break...
March 4, 2011 at 4:57 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )