Buffalo_Breath (anonymous) says...

Spring Fever!

February 19, 2011 at 8:47 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

REWBA (anonymous) says...

Everyone knows that smoking ain't allowed in school.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9zWw0...

February 19, 2011 at 11:49 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

solong (anonymous) says...

I am glad they caught these people, they are at school to learn and way to young to be smoking pot.

February 19, 2011 at 1:44 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

create (anonymous) says...

Must be some of that Spartan pride.

Publish the parents' names.

February 19, 2011 at 2:19 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

jmac (anonymous) says...

Reminds of the Old song " Smoking in the Boys Room"

February 19, 2011 at 2:49 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

americus1987 (anonymous) says...

Wow. solong. . when is a good time to start smoking pot?

February 19, 2011 at 5:04 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

goodoleboy (anonymous) says...

18? If you can die for your country you should be able to have a beer and joint. Else they need to raise the age to enter the service to 21.

February 19, 2011 at 5:51 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

REWBA (anonymous) says...

You have to pass a drug screening to enlist in the military. After that you will undergo drug screenings at least once each month until you retire. After that you can smoke weed all you want.

February 19, 2011 at 6:07 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

create (anonymous) says...

Wow kansaslawdog, maybe I will since you've tried to out me twice now. Thanks.

February 19, 2011 at 6:38 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

goodoleboy (anonymous) says...

You must have really gotten under his/her skin Create, hope the gazette is watching, this is a violation of forum policy, not to mention ripe with hypocrisy. Maybe kansaslawdog63 should practice what he/she preaches?

February 19, 2011 at 6:58 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

ToxicPink (anonymous) says...

That's not good, there's only 3 Vickie's in town. =(

February 19, 2011 at 7:34 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

create (anonymous) says...

Thanks, goodoleboy and LOL Toxic. I tried to contact Gazette, but it's Saturday. That's okay, Monday will come about in due time. Seems I have a real enemy. This is the sort of thing I tried to explain to Steve Sauder when he called us "faceless bloggers," and then there was the woman at the commission meeting who pronounced us gutless for not revealing our identities on this blog.

February 19, 2011 at 7:46 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

goodoleboy (anonymous) says...

You know, I thought a lot about creating another handle under my real name, I don't work in Emporia, and I really have nothing to fear from coming out. But given how upset and petty it has made certain folks, I do it now out of spite=)

February 19, 2011 at 8:16 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Tell (anonymous) says...

Pretty mean spirted to want to publish the parents name. Fifteen and sixteen year olds do dumb stuff but you think insulting the parents will fix them?

February 19, 2011 at 11:20 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

One way of stopping this.

Lock the restrooms up and go to porta-potties. Kind of hard to get 3 people in 1 of them.
save some money on those restroom remodels also.

February 20, 2011 at 7:20 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Tell (anonymous) says...

Maybe they'll grow up to be pro boxers.

February 20, 2011 at 7:44 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Chevy_Guy (anonymous) says...

Or Olympic swimmers.

February 20, 2011 at 9:57 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

create (anonymous) says...

I don't think it's mean spirited at all to identify the parents. Maybe it will provoke parents into being more vigilant and less permissive. At one time in this country, most kids could honestly say that they behaved because they were afraid what would happen if their parents found out.

On the other hand, maybe I am wrong because parents today are completely different than they were when I was a kid, that's for damn sure. Growing up in the 50's was mild compared to today. Oh sure there was the Blackboard Jungle and such, but they were not the norm.

Later, I myself had a fifteen-year-old daughter that despised my strict parenting and took off like a maniac, running with a bad crowd and smoking pot and God knows what else too. But the big difference is that I was accountable when I called the law on her. Me. I did. No one else did. I did. I didn't hide behind privacy laws. When she found herself hauled in, I had to appear in court. So don't give me that bullsh*t about it being mean spirited to publish the parents' names. For crying out loud, parents need to be accountable for their minor children, no matter what little idiots they are or what crap they pull. Jesus, why is that so hard for people to understand.

February 20, 2011 at 10:20 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

armybrat (anonymous) says...

It is the world we live in. Brawling at birthday parties at chucky cheese in Topeka, I am sure the parents will blame the school or hold someone else responsible for not teaching the children right from wrong.

February 20, 2011 at 11:08 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

solong (anonymous) says...

americus1987, a good time to start smoking a joint would be after reading some of your posts.

February 20, 2011 at 1:42 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

americus1987 (anonymous) says...

solong, I was thinking the exact same thing about yours.. However, I may be too young to start.

February 20, 2011 at 2:15 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

justaflushaway (anonymous) says...

Tell says, ""Pretty mean spirited to want to publish the parents name. Fifteen and sixteen year olds do dumb stuff but you think insulting the parents will fix them?"""

I disagree, print the names of the punks, print the parents names, embarrass the hell out of them, let others know how worthless they are, charge them for having a drug on school grounds, and FIRE the teachers and the wimpy assistants who will just slap there little hands. TREAT them the way they should be treated, mean spirited?? how the hell says that is mean spirited to call a spade a spade.. that's the problem with the damn punks now!, and for the parents, PUBLISH there names. Do that a few times and maybe these parents who pay no damn attention to their punk kids will start kicking their ass's when they do STUPID crap,, LIKE SMOKING POT ON SCHOOL GROUNDS, IN SCHOOL RESTROOMS, how damn stupid are the 3 kids,

and goodoleboy, your reference to being 18 and going to the military, but cant smoke pot, ITS a damn volunteer military now,the young MEN and WOMEN, who have wanted to protect the freedom of our country, who NOT want you and your stupid views anywhere close to them in combat. Thank goodness, the military would find a reason not to accept you, You need to go to your computer and type in ,JACK LUCAS, Medal of Honor reciprent, read his story , and then you can take your smart ass comment and stick it where the sun dont shine.

February 20, 2011 at 3:30 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

goodoleboy (anonymous) says...

Man, must be a lot of stupid soldiers out there, better get them in line there buddy:

http://www.google.com/search?q=soldie...

Better have a joint man, your going to have a heart attack getting all worked up like that.

February 20, 2011 at 4:49 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

justaflushaway (anonymous) says...

oh I dont think so, i have kept in shape, unlike you, no drugs, no smoking, retired Military, and I can spot an idiot in a second, So you go ahead and smoke your pot, probably wont affect you in any way, as you probably dont work anyway, and does your mommy give you a allowance for your weed??

February 20, 2011 at 5:36 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

goodoleboy (anonymous) says...

Huh? I don't smoke, never have, tried pot 2 times, don't smoke it, don't care to. Don't care to persecute people that do either.

You don't know a thing about me, and assuming only makes an a$$ out of you=)

February 20, 2011 at 6 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

americus1987 (anonymous) says...

Well played/said goodole.

February 20, 2011 at 7:20 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

pmh61 (Won Ton) says...

I blame Miley Cyrus...........tramp

February 20, 2011 at 7:55 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Tell (anonymous) says...

So create you were a strict parent and that only made your child rebel and run with the wrong crowd. Do you ever wonder if she was the wrong crowd not them other kids? Publishing you name everytime she did something wrong that would have stopped her becaused she cared? Why didn't you call the gazette and tell them to publish your name then?
So I assume you think you were a good parent but never the less your own kid was a dope head. Yep sounds right it the damn parents fault.

Flush why don't you do just that and flush your self. Comments and attacks like yours make sauders argument sound credible.

February 20, 2011 at 9:12 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

create (anonymous) says...

So Tell, how do you know my name wasn't in the paper back then? You don't know. You just yap away. Easy. Yes, it was my fault for many reasons, but at least I am willing to admit that and not hide behind some privacy crap and make excuses like "kids will be kids." There's no such thing!

February 21, 2011 at 8:33 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

create, "kids will be kids", yes, stupid BUT it is up to the parents to be SMART.
I do not go with holding the parent accountable for what their offspring does. As I've said before, you can't be with them 24/7 and at a certain age, peerpressure has a very strong hold. Does that make it right? NO!!! That is when parents step in but we have all known some wonderful kids with terrible parents and some terrible kids with wonderful parents. To always put the blame on the parents, I feel is wrong! Lets place the blame where the blame belongs, on the person doing the act and with the parents supporting the rightful authority. Yes, we as parents have called the authorities when our sons were younger because of alcohol. It didn't stop them from drinking but the authorities DID and the consequences that act caused. Yes, it is very hard to go see a son in jail wearing orange because of a DUI and tell him, see you when we get back off vacation, a vacation he was to also go but because of HIS actions, he couldn't. Did he learn? you bet!!!!!!!!! Years later he told us how he was so stund that we would just walk away and leave him there and we also explained that until he was a parent would understand just how very hard that was to do but HAD TO BE DONE, one of lifes lessons.

February 21, 2011 at 11:15 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Tell (anonymous) says...

Being publicly embarassed won't turn back time the damage is done they were caught. Like you they might not have known their child was using drugs the authorties caught them before their parents did (maybe). I'm sure their parents have enough to deal with right now without being further humiliated. When they grow up and become pro boxers and olympic swimmers then jump on them. For crying out loud leave these families alone. Create I'm sure if you were my mom I'd smoke a little pot to. And yes kids will be kids if they were born smart we wouldn't have to send them to school. I'm surprised it was breaking news that fifteen and sixteen year olds made a bad decision.

February 21, 2011 at 11:48 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

sunshine (anonymous) says...

Create, I don't know that I think it is so much mean spirited as irresponsible. Why, because publishing their names would give some people the idea that they have the right to pick those parents apart. I, like you, have taken responsibility when my kids do something wrong. I will be the first to report them if necessary. But, even the most vigilant parents can have kids that screw up like these kids did. I talk to my kids often about what goes on at school and ask questions about what other kids do. Unfortunately my crystal ball won't allow me to see what they are doing when they are out of my eyesight. Are they the well behaved kids they are when they are at home? Probably not all the time. They know if they do something wrong and I catch wind of it, punishment that I give will likely be more severe than any they might receive elsewhere, and if they get in legal trouble, they are on their own because I'm not helping them out.trust me, if these kids wind up in the legal system, they will have to take responsibility enough, they don't need the rest of us pointing fingers at them. All that said, I DO believe there are parents out there that have repeat offending kids, who are obviously not as in tune to their kids as you and I are, they should have some harsher requirements. Maybe THOSE parents names should be published.

February 21, 2011 at 11:56 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

create (anonymous) says...

I understand where you are coming from, sandman, You and I agree more than you think we do. I am saying that the parents need to be accountable. That's the magic word. Accountable. You let your son sit in jail. I let my daughter spend the latter half of her sophomore year in what used to be the Lyon County Youth Facility. Each of us could have just hidden behind the "kids will be kids" excuse and done nothing at all. Instead we elected to be accountable by seeing to it that they received help. Yes, blame the kids, but hold the parents accountable. World of difference.

Sorry Tell, you don't make a lick of sense. You're just one of the many who make excuses for kids. Don't help them get on the right track. Just make excuses and say that someday they will learn. In the meantime they run amok.

February 21, 2011 at 12:04 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

uranidiot (anonymous) says...

Kids will be kids. That's because they are not adults. Thank God they are not. Its no wonder these kids got caught smoking pot with the role models they have today. Do as I say and not as I do is steadily becoming the norm with adults. Maybe its time the adults of this country start growing up.

February 21, 2011 at 12:18 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

REWBA (anonymous) says...

Parents should be held accountable for the actions of their minor children.

"Victory has a thousand fathers, but defeat is an orphan."~~ John F. Kennedy

Parents love being "outed" when their child wins at something or does exceptionally well, but let that child get caught doing the wrong thing and the parent will sue you if you try to pin it on them.

Parents should ensure that their minor child is under the direct supervision of a responsible adult at all times. But, our society is so screwed up that parents who refuse to allow their teen to run wild are scorned as being "Over Protective" while parents who tie a key around their child's neck and allow them to do as they please are praised for the way they allow their child "independence". Single mothers are catered to by politicians where married couples are punished by the tax codes and the denial of public services reserved for the "Single Mothers". American's are so freaking backwards in their values that it is a wonder we haven't gone bankrupt already. But trust me, it's coming. Greed and selfishness is the rule of the modern American. Anyone who says otherwise is either blind or stupid. We need laws prohibiting latchkey children.

A "latchkey child" is a child who returns from school to an empty home because his or her parent or parents are away at work, or a child who is often left at home with little or no parental supervision.

The effects of being a latchkey child differ with age. Loneliness, boredom and fear are most common for those younger than 10 years of age. In the early teens, there is a greater susceptibility to peer pressure, potentially resulting in such behaviors as alcohol abuse, drug abuse, sexual promiscuity and smoking.

February 21, 2011 at 12:36 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Chevy_Guy (anonymous) says...

What do George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, James Monroe, Andrew Jackson, Zachary Taylor, Franklin Pierce, Abraham Lincoln, John F. Kennedy, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, and Barack Obama have in common?

They all smoked pot.

February 21, 2011 at 5:27 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Tell (anonymous) says...

Maybe these kids were using it for medical reasons.

February 21, 2011 at 6:03 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

I agree with much of what has been written but NOT with holding the parents accountable. We today want to place blame on EVERYTHING but the one doing the actual act. If a youth goes out and robs someone and in the process hurts them,the person robbing was mentally incompetent, poor upbringing etc, excuses, all of them. THEY DID THE ACT!!!! I do agree with uranidiot that as examples for our youth, they are not many times readily available for as society we have gone to the acceptance of EVERYTHING, if it feels right, do it attitude. What do we truly value??? I don't agree with REWBA that peer pressure is mainly in the early teens. For I feel it can start in their very early teens up into adulthood.(20's,30's). None of us want to look different or act different then our peers and it takes, sometimes many years for some to reach the point that says "I am what I am, take it or leave it" for I won't bend. Yes, childhood helps one to come to that level but also life has a great affect.

February 21, 2011 at 6:19 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

oh4theluvof (anonymous) says...

create,
Good for you! You were an excellent parenting role model to your daughter and to others when you did that. You were also teaching your daughter the life lesson of consequences instead of sheltering her from it because "kids will be kids" or because it might embarrass you.

Another poster here said, "Kids will be kids. That's because they are not adults." Then ended with, "Maybe its time the adults of this country start growing up."

Allow me to point out that childhood is the time to be training kids how to someday be adults. I encounter many current grandparents who try to correct me when I correct my kids for rude behavior or outright disobedience in front of them. The thing they tell me is that my kids are just kids. My answer to them is that they won't always be, and that when they aren't, they will need this information I'm giving them now.
I heard someone once say, "I'm not raising a boy, I'm raising a man." Think about that. We can't expect them to be adults as children, but the end result will be an adult. If we want the adults to be grown up, we have to train them through instruction, reinforcement, correction and consequences through their first 16-18 years. After that, it's on them. Before that, it's on us parents. It may not be that we haven't taught, but that we need to teach certain things more thoroughly or conscientiously. We can determine that by their behavior.

That aside, I have noticed a cultural enigma. We have special "Say no to drug" campaigns and alleged educations, but in reality, they aren't really taught much about the drugs themselves even thought they may encounter them at any time. I've heard that it's because it will plant ideas about how to get even when they rebel, so their lack of info is our ally. All they need is to know to say "no." Meanwhile, we will teach them details about their future sexuality a year or two in advance. We say that their education is our ally because we can't just teach them to say "no."
Inconsistency???

February 21, 2011 at 7:27 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Buffalo_Breath (anonymous) says...

Franklin Pierce?

C'mon, man!

February 21, 2011 at 7:45 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

romano1784 (anonymous) says...

"Among the items police found at the scene were two bags of marijuana, an envelope with marijuana, pipes and lighters. "

This has passed alleged and become caught. Sorry you can say blame the parents, make them accountable, yada yada yada. These "kids" were 16 and 15, not 10 or 11. They knew exactly what they were doing. there is no middle ground here. They screwed up, let them pay the price. We need to stop this theory that just because they are not 18 doesnt mean they dont know right and wrong. When they do good on the football field we dont think of them as kids. they pass their SAT's with flying colors you dont think of them as children. They get caught with pot? Oh well their just kids they'll learn. Sometimes the sad fact is that no matter how well parent tries to teach their young, the young will rebell. If this was my son, and believe me im sure the day will come sooner than later, he'd be paying the maximum for his stupidity.

But this is Emporia. You cant swing a cat without running into a bag of marijuana here. Litteraly everywhere you look theres pot. EPD said a while back that the drug element in this town is being cleaned up. Looks that way right?

No cats were harmed in the typing of this rant.

America for Americans!

February 21, 2011 at 8:34 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

create (anonymous) says...

Perhaps I wasn't making myself clear enough. Of course kids at age 16 and 15 know what they are doing, and yes, they should pay the consequences for their behavior. Some people use the term "blame." It's the same thing.

However, I still maintain that parents need to be accountable for their kids' behaviors. Being accountable means you are willing to take the responsibility to see to it that the little darlings pay consequences. What are you going to do otherwise, hang 'em out to dry? Disown them? Kick them out? Look the other way? Or take the time to teach them a lesson or as Romano says "he'd be paying the maximum for his stupidity."

oh4theluvof, thank you. That was an excellent post regarding consequences. KIds have to pay them, just as we all do. Sadly, many adults don't believe they need to pay them either. That's why we have laws and lawyers and judges and juries.

February 22, 2011 at 9:02 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Tell (anonymous) says...

I have read every post on here not one person has ever said parents should not be accountable for their children. Lets give the parents an opportunity before we drag them through main street for their public flogging.

February 22, 2011 at 9:37 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

create (anonymous) says...

Once again, Tell, you are blowing this all out of proportion. You may have read every post, but you didn't comprehend much.

armybrat said, " I am sure the parents will blame the school or hold someone else responsible for not teaching the children right from wrong." What do you suppose this means, Tell?

You yourself said, "Like you they might not have known their child was using drugs the authorties caught them before their parents did (maybe)." Not know? Oh my.

But you're going to argue with me come hell or high water so why should I bother anymore. It's your business if you want to make excuses for kids. Many irresponsible parents do.

February 22, 2011 at 9:53 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

What is all the hubbub about anyway ?

We must all remember, " IT' S FOR THE KIDS or DO IT FOR THE KIDS " !

Do it forThe Kids, Its for The Kids, The Kids, The Kids .... boy am I sick and tired of that lame excuse for everything !

Smoking Pot at school, Aaaaw, just let em go, after all its for the kids and their are, after all they are just kids ! And you can bet it will also make a big difference who' s kids they just happen to be ! What a crock !

I was at Walmart, I believe it was last Thursday, secruity caught 4 young men, they looked to be about 13 to 15 years of age, trying to steal something !

Since they were just KIDS, what should happen to them !

I believe that a few days in jail for both the KIDS and their parents, plus a fine, plus having their names, kids and parents, publicly published, plus some constructive community service would do a world of good in " lesson " teaching and learning !!

And kansaslawdog63, you sound as if one of the kids that were caught smoking pot in school, may have possible been one of yours !!
Is that why you are so upset with create ?

February 22, 2011 at 10:48 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

EmporiaRocks (anonymous) says...

I think the kids should have to take the punishment on their own. They did the deed, let them pay the piper. Why should the parent be punished? Eventually, these kids are going to have to stand on their own.

February 22, 2011 at 11:15 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

mslater (Matt Slater) says...

Kids will be kids. There are a number of great parents whose kids have gotten caught doing something stupid. Happens all the time. Do I think we need to put the parent's name in the paper and publicly shame them? No. Do all the parents who have kids at EHS already know who they are? Probably. I say let the kids have their punishment, and call it good.

February 22, 2011 at 11:17 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

Oh, c' mon, here we go, the same old lame excuses, kids will be kids, its not the parents fault, so why get the blame parents, because the parents aren' t involved in any in the wrong doing of their kids !!

If it is not the parents responsibility, to be a roll model and to raise their kids and teach them what is right and what is wrong, according to the rules and laws of society, then whose responsibility is it ?

Is it the schools, teachers, school districts, school boards, the community , if not the parents, then who ?

If it is going to be left up to the community as a whole, to be responsiblity for others, irresponsibility or lack of wanting to take responsibility for their kids and the people of the community are going to have to do the responsible thing ... then the kids and their parents are going to have to learn a hard lesson in " RESPONSIBILITY " along with their kids from society and the community ! If that means public humiliation, for them to take responsibility for their kids actions and deeds, then that is what will be needed !

If its going to be looked at as being acceptable to break the law, no matter what age a person is, then do away with societal laws and let lawlessness be the rule of the day !!

February 22, 2011 at 12:08 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

newtoemporia (anonymous) says...

After reading a few articles and comments, I've read about prohibition, holding parents legally responsible for their children's behavior and public humiliation for both parents and children who commit a crime. It's reminding me of another part of the world that is fighting against this type of government. LOL

In Saudi Arabia, a parent is only responsible for their child's crime until the child's 13th birthday.

If these students were in Saudi Arabia, their parents would not be held responsible for their crime.

Yet, in America, we are saying "hold the parents of teenagers responsible"?!

I know many kids who who had wonderful parents and role models, but these kids made different choices. Even with parental and law intervention, some kids did not change.

I think Saudi laws are harsh, but I agree, at some point, responsibility should be placed solely on the kids.

February 22, 2011 at 1:09 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

EmporiaRocks (anonymous) says...

Why is it so hard for people to see the teenagers should be held responsible? At the age of 16, if you don't know right from wrong, you never will. Parents can only take them so far. Sooner or later, they will have to be held accountable for their decisions. Let them start learning some of their lessons before they are completely out of the nest.

February 22, 2011 at 1:25 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

But, in various countries around the world, the child is held responsible by the laws of those countrys and are punished accordingly and do not think that the parents are not held somewhat responsible in countries such as Saudi Arabia, because they are held responsible and sometimes are absolutely seen and treated as outcasts from society and are treated as such by their own families and publicly shunned !

However here in the U.S. the kid is more times than not, released into the custody of the parent who either doesn' t care, doesn' t want to be sesponsible or is not held responsible for their kids actions and deeds ! And so the kids will be kids or they are just kids or its for the kids mentality that causes the lessons of responsibility, consequences of actions, choices, even stupid actions and choices to either be learned or in most cases to be dismissed and no lessons learned either by the kid or the parent !

Parents are not born as good or responsible parents, they had to learn to be good parents either from their parents as roll models or some other positive roll model in their life ! Parenting is a learned, full time vocation and has to be worked at, in order become a good and responsible parent !
And believe me parenting does not stop when you child turns 13 ! When you become a parent, you are and have the feeling of parenthood for life, I mean your life not your childs life ! I have two children, ages 46 and 45 and I still, worry about them, as a parent ! I have 3 grandchildren and I worry about them as a grandPARENT and I now have 2 great grandchildren and I worry about them as a great grand Parent !!

And I try to be the best, responsible " Parent " to all of them, that I can be, by trying to teach them right from wrong and to be responsible and that stupid choices and actions, usually come with some sort of consequence and than some of these consequences are not easy or pleasant !!

So you see, we are " Parents " of one kind or another all of our life !
And as such is a responsibility we should all take seriously !!

February 22, 2011 at 2:42 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

newtoemporia (anonymous) says...

I am in total agreement, methusla. I liked what you wrote:

"Parents are not born as good or responsible parents, they had to learn to be good parents either from their parents as roll models or some other positive roll model in their life ! Parenting is a learned, full time vocation and has to be worked at, in order become a good and responsible parent ! And believe me parenting does not stop when you child turns 13 ! When you become a parent, you are and have the feeling of parenthood for life, I mean your life not your childs life !"

At almost 40, my parents still worry about me. They were great role models, provided a wonderful education and a house full of love. However, as a young adult, I made some "punk" decisions. Thankfully, none of my decisions were criminal. However, should I have broken the law, I wouldn't have wanted my parents to be criminally prosecuted for my bad choices.

I think teenagers should face the consequences of their poor choices. And, it's a shame so many kids are growing up without good role models and parents who either ignore or encourage bad behaviors.

On the other hand, there are great parents who have children who break the law. It had nothing to do with their parenting skills, but their children's choices.

February 22, 2011 at 3:12 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

newtoemporia

I am nearing 70, and I can still feel my parents watchful eyes, and firm, strong, loving, caring hands on my shoulders and hear their words of wisdom, caring and at times stearn words of teaching me what was right and what was wrong, even though they have been gone these many years ! I could not have hoped for nor asked for better parents and roll models !!

And because of their wisdom, teaching, common sense and upbringing, I can proudly say, " Mom, Dad " I have lived and traveled the path that you taught me to travel and have never disappointed you by having, ever gotten into any kind of trouble, ever, so far, in my life ! " Thank you, Mom, Dad, I will love you always and forever !!

February 22, 2011 at 3:46 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

maybe a page from Singapore's municipal code?

PUBLIC CANING ?

February 22, 2011 at 3:57 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

reality (anonymous) says...

Punish the kids, not the parents. But make sure the punishment fits the crime. I can't imagine why getting caught smoking weed inside the school wouldn't result in an immediate expulsion.

February 22, 2011 at 4:55 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )