thrashed (anonymous) says...

Why was the dog roaming free? What do you think happens when dogs just roam around.

February 5, 2011 at 1:35 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

justthinkin (anonymous) says...

I'm sorry for your loss.

February 5, 2011 at 3:44 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

goodoleboy (anonymous) says...

The notion of one's pets running free is not an issue. For years people have driving at excessive speeds on country roads and nothing good comes of it.

I am sorry for your loss, it is regrettable the the individual did not have the common courtesy to stop and least own up to fact that he/she hit your dog.

Karma is *****

February 5, 2011 at 4:35 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

create (anonymous) says...

I'm so sorry to hear about Hannah. We have all had special dogs in our lives and she certainly sounds like she was very special. Bless you.

Thrashed, I can see why you chose that screen name.

February 5, 2011 at 5:22 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Buffalo_Breath (anonymous) says...

People are afraid to stop.
They are afraid they'll get sued.
They are afraid they'll get arrested.

Too much Government kills civility.
You can't be nice, except at the risk of being punished by this law or that.

You just have to drive on and hope the people will understand.

February 5, 2011 at 8:15 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Buffalo_Breath (anonymous) says...

P.S. - It weren't me. ;-(

February 5, 2011 at 8:16 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Observer (anonymous) says...

I am so deeply sorry for your loss of Hannah. I have stopped and laid a wee broken body out of the road so they wouldn't get hit any more, and their owners were not at home. A horror to come home to, and all I did was come along after and see the result, and it sure breaks your heart.

The wee-doggies are like three-year-old children, and it is sure like losing a child when they are gone, especially tragicly.

How often I see the doggies chasing the cars and know that it is just a matter of time before they don't stay clear of the wheels. How I wish that their "parents" would keep them safe.

I am so very sorry for the loss of wee-Hannah

February 5, 2011 at 8:30 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

ascwrangler (anonymous) says...

I've seen both sides here.
I hate to see anyone lose a beloved pet.....
Owners(and parents) never see fault.
Ever seen how a heeler likes to herd cars?
Drivers go fast everywhere and it seems to know no demographic of offender, or geographical location.
I do know what it's like to stop and render aid to a hurt pet so that my kids can watch it thrash and die, then have the owner yell at me for their pets lack of rules, boundaries and limitations.
It's all perspective.

February 5, 2011 at 9:08 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

REWBA (anonymous) says...

If a dog runs under a trailer while chasing the tractor it would have to be a really really big dog for the driver to even feel a bump.

February 5, 2011 at 9:23 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

ToxicPink (anonymous) says...

I was thinking about this last night.

First off, I am truely honestly and deeply sorry for your loss. My animals are my babies, and losing them is hard. Very very hard.

I've never hit anything other than a bird, and I cried at that so...I don't ever even want to imagine hitting a dog or a cat.

I do want to say, there are reasons why some people might not stop. One being ascwrangler's situation, no...I'm sorry I don't think I would stop if I had a small child in my car. Trust me, this took a lot of self reflection and thinking, I don't have kids, I don't plan on having them for awhile and it took a lot of digging to put myself in a situation were I'd have a toddler in my car. That would be horrible for many reason and I don't need my human child seeing that. And it hurts to say, let me tell you.

I also agree with REWBA, they perhaps didn't feel it. With the weather and the roads, I don't see it out of the realm of possibilities that the driver didn't realize they had hit your furbaby.

I hope that you got some anger out by writing this letter.

I had a car hit a stray kitten I was trying to get to know me so that I could take care of it and I imagined doing all sorts of things, throwing rocks through their windows if I ever found them, wanting not be there when it happened so I can chase after them...but when it came down to it after I had calmed down, I felt sorry for them. Because putting myself in a position of hitting an animal and knowing it might have been someone's pet and loved one...crushes me.

February 6, 2011 at 6:40 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

neighbor (anonymous) says...

Sorry for your loss Mrs Davidson, living along a highway is a tough lesson for many pets. We have lost many family pets to the highway.

In a perfect world, the person who hit Hannah should have stopped and attempted to contact her owner.

Perhaps they didn't even know they had hit her.

Perhaps they couldn't emotionally handle seeing her injured that way.

Perhaps they had had a bad experience with a dog owner on a previous accident and didn't want the confrontation this time around. I myself have had pet owners get irate at me for running over their pet that shouldn't have been along the roadway alone in the lst place.

Had I been the one to hit your dog and knew I had done so, I would have been on your doorstep with the news.

February 6, 2011 at 8:17 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

apierich (anonymous) says...

Ms. Davidson, I am sorry for your loss. It oculd have been so many of the things that others have posted but I do know that that nicer side of humanity is not always what prevails. I personally have been touched by the insensitivity of people who actually target animals in roadways, and sometimes even in ditches along road ways, and think of it as a public service and lesson to the owner. It is easy to let the anger swell and fester but since the actual series of events that lead to the tragedy are unknown it will be easier in the long run to forgive and not forget and mourn for the loss of the companionship rather than dwell on who did it. Hannah is no longer hurting and will never be able to be hurt again and one day you and your other dogs will be able to see her over the rainbow bridge where she has plenty of other pets to play with until then.

February 6, 2011 at 12:40 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

ToxicPink (anonymous) says...

We actually can take a lesson in forgiveness from the same animals we're upset about.

Dogs can forgive so easily, even when they've been through things we never want to imagine.

There's a professor at ESU in the science department that brags about killing and targeting cats by the road in his lectures. I about walked out the day he started showing run over cats in his power point presentation. I wanted to file a complaint, but my experiences with complaining about a horrible professor in the math department lead me to reconsider.

February 6, 2011 at 12:51 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Observer (anonymous) says...

For my self I so appreciate each response posted and the hearts for the wee-ones exhibited. I would like to grab ToxicPink's professor by the back of the neck and shake them. What a shriveled soul and heart of stone described.

The wee-ones give back such precious unconditional love to their people, and it is our responsibility to care for them and to keep them safe. If you have ever seen one which was abandoned along the roadside. They stay right there awaiting their owner's return, jumping up and looking so intently at each car approaching. Hoping it is the one which they trust and love, but never to be.

Cherish and nurture them as the wee-helpless children which they are, and they will return such love to the heart. At the end of their sojourn with you they will become sick and hurting. Do not let them suffer, but hold them one last time in your arms, and then let them go to sleep and place them in the hands of God.

Love them and keep them safe.

February 6, 2011 at 1:54 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

thrashed (anonymous) says...

Justaflushaway you sound like a idiot. I feel bad for the dogs owners but you take this chance living in the country. Not all drivers should be blamed when dogs chase cars and put themselves in harms way.

February 7, 2011 at 9:47 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

solong (anonymous) says...

I had a dog that chases cars loose his footing and go right under my wheel. It was difficult, but I went to the owner and told them what had happened. They said they knew it was a matter of time because of the dog's behavior and were decent about. I was thankful they were considerate, I think some people just go off and naturally think the driver was at fault which is why some people probably go on. My experience with what happened was not pleasant, the thump, looking in the mirror and seeing the dog thrashing, it is traumatic. I wish people with dogs that make a habit of being on roads would make other arrangements so these things wouldn't happen.

February 7, 2011 at 12:01 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

I noticed where the accident occurred, country. I also live in the country on a road that has four homesites.It is not a straight road by any means with many curves, twist and turns. One homesite has children that in the summer time play outside just as my little dog does at times. You would be amazed at the number of cars that zip down the road. Now when I say "zip" I don't mean 20 or 30, but 50 and 60, at times we wonder if we live on the Indianapolis Speedway with the dust and gravel flying. Have yet figured out how we became the fortunate in having all these visitors at such a high rate of speed with no apparent business to attend in our neighborhood. Yes, we chose to live here, for the serinity, how I love the peacefulness until some fool decides to test out his gas pedal. My prayer is that my little dog will not be in their way for you see, those of us who live on this road know to watch and take care of our animals and children. Soooooooo, slow down and maybe the Hannahs will be able to play with their owners each evening and not endup under your wheel of speed plus this just might enable you to see another tomorrow or even me.

February 7, 2011 at 4:51 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

citizen1 (anonymous) says...

I used to live in the country for many years. I to have hit dogs, cats, skunks, etc. not on purpose though. I am not going to risk my life or my childrens to swirve and miss an animal on loose gravel it is not worth it.I am sorry for your loss but your dog could of caused a fatality and I a human life is worth more then your damn dog! I was able to keep my animals in my yard and it sounds like you need to!

February 8, 2011 at 7:47 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Ubet (anonymous) says...

I too have had a dog hit on the road. it is a risk you take by having a dog and living by a busy road. I don't blame people who hit them but I would blame them for being a coward and not informing the owner.

February 8, 2011 at 10:24 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

REWBA (anonymous) says...

I had a neighbor who would allow his dog to chase anything moving down the road. It really sucked for bicycles and runners. Everyone else who lived on that road hated that arshol because each time his dog got killed he would get another and allow it to run loose chasing cars, animals and people. I complained to him once and he came off as a typical pea brained redneck. "This is the country!!!, Move to town if you don't like it!" Just after that dog got hit on the road the jerk tried to blame me and became very threatening. I had to get physical with the ahole just to get him out of my face. I wasn't the only happy camper when the jerk tipped his tractor over on himself.

Just because you live out of town doesn't give you the right to be an irresponsible pet owner. jmo

February 8, 2011 at 10:42 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

REWBA, I expected that type of answer from you. Just because you don't live on this road doesn't give you the right to "zip" down it. Now, if we were in town we would have to follow the speed limit, so why in the country do YOU think you can do what you darn well please? Total lack of respect as I see it, the ego riding high!!!! Yes, getting physical is your answer to getting your way. Plus you were happy when he tipped his tractor?
Boy! some neighbor!!!! I imagine you also enjoy hitting someones dog so you can say "I'm the man" and that would be very questionable, no less, a human.

February 8, 2011 at 3:05 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

Also REWBA, how about being a responsible driver or is that above your ability???

February 8, 2011 at 3:23 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

citizen1, maybe if you were going a responsible speed on that loose gravel you wouldn't need to worry concerning having an accident and could slow down, THINK???

February 8, 2011 at 3:33 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

EmporiaRocks (anonymous) says...

What is the speed limit on an unmarked gravel road? I know that on an unmarked highway it is 55 mph, but I never knew there was a speed limit on gravel roads. Common sense should dictate not to go too fast, unless you like buying tires, but, I've never seen anything actually posted.

February 8, 2011 at 3:36 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

Ubet, as I stated, there is no reason for this road to be busy, it is because of "joy-riders". If they were to slow down and enjoy the country side we would ALL be safe, human and animals. This is farmland not the speedway.

February 8, 2011 at 3:38 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

scarlett01_98 (anonymous) says...

emporia rocks, the speed limit on gravel roads is 30 mph. however sometimes that is too fast for conditions.
sand i don't remember, when did a tractor tip over?

February 8, 2011 at 3:41 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

EmporiaRocks (anonymous) says...

I just found this, scarlett:

By state law, gravel roads in Kansas have a speed limit of 55 mph and are not posted, though local governments are allowed to reduce the speed limit within their jurisdictions.

http://news.gaeatimes.com/people-igno...

February 8, 2011 at 3:49 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

scarlett01_98 (anonymous) says...

sand, i have a neighbor that is going more than 40 mph by the end of his driveway. and it's only 40 ft long.....talk about zipping.....

February 8, 2011 at 3:51 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

EmporiaRocks (anonymous) says...

Here is the actual paper that the article is referring to:

http://www.ctre.iastate.edu/pubs/midc...

February 8, 2011 at 3:51 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

scarlett01_98 (anonymous) says...

emporia rocks, you're right, i read your link my road is marked 30. however 55 , around here, that is just crazy..... gravel is tooooo loose in lyon county and the car will go other than forward...
ahh memories of being a teenager.....

February 8, 2011 at 3:58 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

EmporiaRocks,(what a name!!!-for or against?) I did some checking, by Kansas Law is 55(unmarked) but also depends upon conditions. This road has a number of low lying bridges plus as I said many curves,twist and turns, so 55 is VERY unreasonable,not SAFE. Also, 9 months out of the year we will have farm equipment traveling on it. Each winter we will have people drive off at one of the curves,twist and turns. Guess who they want to come and pull them out???It wasn't because of ice and snow but SPEED!!!! Yep! attitude and I've gotten the attitude, sorry but can't help.

February 8, 2011 at 4:07 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

scarlett01_98 (anonymous) says...

yep sand sounds like north lyon county.... do you remember when someone tipped a tractor?

February 8, 2011 at 4:14 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

REWBA (anonymous) says...

sandman, I have never hit an animal with a car. When I was about ten I had a dog that would follow me everywhere. One day I was riding my bike and the dog was following me. I crossed a highway and when I looked back my dog was just entering the highway and a car was coming. I yelled at the dog to stop but the dog just ran out in front of the car anyway. He died instantly. The driver stopped and was horrified that he killed a little kids dog but I told him that it was my fault and apologized to him. I buried that dog and it was all my fault. I should have never let him out of the pen without a leash. I've never done that again.

It was probably hit by one of their neighbors or a grain truck. It's sad but if they keep it in a pen and only let it out on a leash then they wouldn't be crying about a dead dog on the side of the road. jmo

February 8, 2011 at 4:32 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

Hello Scarlett01_98! Nice to see you posting. Concerning the "tipping", please read rewba's post for I was going by that.
As you know, here in North Lyon County we have had our share of farm accidents and I hate them so. Truly couldn't believe that REWBA would post such a terrible happening and be happy about it.

Emporia Rocks, we were both reading the same but thank you so for posting the article. Believe people have to use some common sense which we seem to be in short supply.

Scarlett01_98, son was home on leave and returned, just received an e-mail a little while ago he is back in Africa. He was so hoping that perhaps some additional time for "weather". Some of his buddies got an extra 8 days leave because of weather. Didn't help when I told him it was a blowin and snowin!!! He just said "Mom, be safe" when I explained I'm staying "tucked in"!!!!!!! Tis pretty but I don't have to go out in but in a couple days will be climbing the walls!!!!
Plus, I had plans of hitting the "Town Royal" this evening, only evening no meeting. Oh! life goes on so I'm cleaning house that I didn't do when son was home.

February 8, 2011 at 4:44 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

REWBA, your "jmo" is no good here. For you don't know the situation or surroundings, only speed, plus your own desires, little or no common sense.

February 8, 2011 at 4:59 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

scarlett01_98 (anonymous) says...

sand, i'm glad you got to spend some time with your son. lets hope he stays safe! the snow is pretty, but i can only watch.
in my opinion, rewba, is a jerk that needs to go away. i just ignore him he comes off like a troll.
i really don't remember a tractor tipping over, that would be big news around here, but hey brain surgery will do that.
oh and i wouldn't worry about the house...

February 8, 2011 at 4:59 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

REWBA (anonymous) says...

sandman, I know enough to say that if a dog is hit by a vehicle in your neighborhood, chances are in the 95% range that it was one of your neighbors that hit it.

February 8, 2011 at 5:25 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

scarlett01_98, Thanks but I tend to be a "neat freak" as my husband used to say, I call it organized. My son complimented me several times when he was home! :-) I wanted to spend the time with him but adventually it really gets on my nerves. Always said, if it is worth having, is worth taking care of. I'm one of those that everything has a place and should be in THAT place. I always think I'll wash all the paint off my car especially where I live. Now when spring arrives and the rain, it is always a race between mother nature and I on who is going to win the battle of "dirt". I GOT her, I got a power washer and have a well, so let the water flow!!!!! LOVE country!!!!!! Told my children to just spreed my ashes out on the back 40!!!
No, that is part of planning, tis done.

February 8, 2011 at 5:41 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

REWBA, as I said before there are only four homesites on this stretch of road and no, it wouldn't be a neighbor because we are ALL protective of each others belongings. Needless to say, I have some of the best neighbors plus neighbors that I think the world concerning and know we can count on each other. That is a rare fact in todays world.

February 8, 2011 at 5:47 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

scarlett01_98 (anonymous) says...

hey sand
i used to be a neat freak, then i got sick. now the house is clean enough to be healthy. as for dust, welllllll..... lets just say it's there, making me crazy. nothing i can do about it.
true friends come to see you, they don't care about the mess or dust.
i can't drive, but the lcat is always clean. : )

February 8, 2011 at 6 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

Scarlett01_98, I went to bed early and woke up, tis still out there and so very pretty, a sea of white.

I wouldn't call REWBA a troll, just REWBA. I've been called a troll but I was used to feed fish. Just see no reason to call anyone a name other then the one they use. More times then not, I don't care for REWBA, feel he types something before he thinks how it is going to sound and come off, plus his language sometimes is very rough. I feel one can communicate without that language and name calling. There is another poster I feel the same concerning, doesn't know how to diagree without name calling and we wonder why some of our children are "bullies", that is the example they see. I'm the "ole" go to the horses mouth, say in english what you want to say then forget it and move on, REWBA affects me in that manner.
There are other posters I don't read what they post for you can see right thru them.
Believe that is why I enjoyed biscuitboy and others so, you could disagree and then move forward. Hopefully a learning period for both, bringing in various opinions and then we can pick and choose what matches our feelings the most. Yep, we all have opinions and FEELINGS!!!! That is the beauty of blogs and posting, learning others opinons and deciding if we want to stand and fight, agree or move on to another topic.

Believe what you wrote bothered me for I didn't want you to sink to REWBAs level
(at times) for I have enjoyed you so.

February 9, 2011 at 3:26 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

citizen1 (anonymous) says...

Sandman you can have a serious accident going as little as 15 miles an hour on a gravel road and swirving or do something a little as hit the breaks to hard if something runs out infront of you, you are going to slide end of story weither you stay on the road is another, gravel has other ideas for ya..

February 9, 2011 at 7:27 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )