reddog (K. B. Thomas Jr.) says...

Steve are you the Lyon County Chairman and is his headquarters at the northwest cornor of 4th and Commerical? Thanks for the invite. I wanted to see Brownback the last time he was in Emporia but you had to pay 50 dollars to get into the Country Club to see him. I drove through the Country Club and there were hardly any cars and most of those were playing golf. If he wants to win the election, he needs to get out and meet the common man like Tom Holland but that's my opinion and what do I know......just less and less.

September 16, 2010 at 1:17 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

Lyon county Democratic Headquarters are on East 7th -- 1/2 block east of Commercial street..

I am a registered Republican, but I refuse to follow the herd when it comes to something as important as this.

I do have a couple of small Holland signs on my building though.

September 16, 2010 at 3:30 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

We need a lot more people that think like you do in these times Steve. My hat is off to you. One of the most offensive phrases I hear bandied about nowadays is RINO. DINO would be just as offensive to me but it is seldom ever used. Thanks for being willing to go against the herd mentality.

September 16, 2010 at 4:09 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

oh4theluvof (anonymous) says...

"....a couple of small Holland signs....'

Hahaha, I didn't know that you're from Texas. ☺

September 16, 2010 at 4:35 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

create (anonymous) says...

It was good to see those signs when I passed by yesterday, Steve. Nice article. Short and powerful.

September 16, 2010 at 5:57 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

According to the Capitol Journal

(a NEWSpaper),

Brownback and Holland campaigns are arguing about debates and the republican party has filed an ethics complaint against the Holland campaign.
Is the mud starting already?

September 18, 2010 at 6:47 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

Steve, there is always mud " flinging " in almost every sort of political campaign, no matter how small or large. Its part of the Political Scene .

September 18, 2010 at 7:08 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

Be informed.

Go to :

http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/sam...

Study the page and see how his views and votes change with the election cycles.

September 18, 2010 at 7:37 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

Our senator missed 21.6% of votes in the 110th Congress in 1997 while running for President.

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/co...

Is that really representing Kansas voters?

September 18, 2010 at 7:45 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

Sorry wrong date, 2007

September 18, 2010 at 7:53 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

Steve, I know Brownback is a total " GOOF " and unworthy of my or anyones vote.

I just meant that mud flinging is SOP when it comes to elections and polotics.

September 18, 2010 at 7:55 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

I know methusla, and sometimes it's funny. Often it is just sad.

September 18, 2010 at 7:56 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

alfalfa (anonymous) says...

Agreed, we need to look at both candidates regardless of our affiliation.

September 18, 2010 at 7:57 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

create (anonymous) says...

How Brownback stayed in office all these years despite his record -- party voting.

September 18, 2010 at 8:27 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

I will not be voting against Brownback because he is a Republican.....I will be voting against Brownback because of his voting record. Thanks for the link Steve.

September 18, 2010 at 8:46 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

sail (anonymous) says...

With the amount of voter anger there is a good shot at a large gathering at BRUFFS.It will be interesting to hear his views on taxs,state employment,state retirement,protection of personal freedoms,10th amendment protection,undocumented workers,abortion,endorsing an official language for the state,urine testing for recipients of state aid.....-Would be nice to know, but most politicians tell us nothing and dance around any issues that has two sides, My guess we will hear the same from both ,,PLATITUDES OF BS

September 18, 2010 at 10 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...

If you really want "change"(which you don't, you will just continue to vote for the two "big box" parties) check this out.

http://kencannon.net/

I find it interesting that people are bashing Brownback's voting history considering Obama's voting history or lack there of. I'm pretty sure most of you voted for Obama, correct? lol

Seriously Reformed Folks will be voting for Ken "BOOM" Cannon! (I just made up the "BOOM" thing as far as I know.

Seriously R. Folks (one of the few actually willing to vote for 3rd party candidates)

September 18, 2010 at 10:19 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...

I know this is really just a bash Brownback thread but if you really want to "be informed" here is some more information for your consideration.

http://kansasproud.com/

September 18, 2010 at 10:36 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

create (anonymous) says...

Maximum individual freedom, minimum government, abolish authoritarian control, no or low taxes. Hmmm, who pays for government services?

Do these libertarians really have a plan on how to make government (even a minimum one) work? Who pays police? Jailers? Probation? Fire? Record keepers?

Sounds too much like anarchy to me.

September 18, 2010 at 12:40 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...

http://reformparty.org/issues/

September 18, 2010 at 1 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

I just keep saying it. Little or no government, replaces the power of government with the power of war lords. It's human nature folks. In the absence of governmental control, the biggest, the strongest, the meanest, will rise to fill the void.

When you are unburdened by the restraints of governments you will be burdened by the demands of the guy on your block with the most guns and the least reluctance to use them. This has been a given through out history. How bad it becomes depends directly on how little government is left.

People balk so much at government's restraints but we live under the restraints of others every day of our lives. As Bob Dylan wrote, "Everybody Must Serve Someone." I would rather it be an elected official than the Hell's Angel at the end of the block.

September 18, 2010 at 2:02 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...

Issues

The following statements summarize our Platform stances on our core issues.

FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY

The Reform Party SUPPORTS fiscal responsibility and accountability.

TAX POLICY

The Reform Party SUPPORTS fair taxation policies without prejudice or special interest exceptions.

JOB CREATION

The Reform Party SUPPORTS an “America First” position.

PERSONAL HEALTHCARE

The Reform Party SUPPORTS affordable and accessible healthcare based on informed decisions between doctor and patient.

PUBLIC EDUCATION

The Reform Party SUPPORTS equal access to and accountability for public education.

GOVERNMENT AND ETHICS

The Reform Party SUPPORTS legislation and rules across all branches of government that enforce the highest ethical standards and effective oversight.

ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY

The Reform Party SUPPORTS safeguarding our nation’s natural resources balanced with the need for economic development.

ENERGY POLICY

The Reform Party SUPPORTS energy independence from foreign sources.

FOREIGN POLICY

The Reform Party SUPPORTS policies that respect the sovereignty of all nations, support our allies, and are fiscally responsible.

NATIONAL SECURITY

The Reform Party SUPPORTS policies and programs that best guarantee the security of our national borders, the safety of our citizens and the economic interests of our country.

CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS

The Reform Party SUPPORTS the Principles Established in the United States Constitution, Bill of Rights and Declaration of Independence as our guiding principles for the rights of our citizens and for defining the scope of our Government.

September 18, 2010 at 2:13 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

Sail,

Platitudes from candidates are a fact of life. It's hard to take a stance when you are trying to win an election and get that majority vote.

So it comes down to the candidates record, and who you feel confident with.

Your vote is wasted only if you cast it without knowing what your candidate stands for.

September 18, 2010 at 3:24 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

seriouslyfolks

I am glad you posted this list. Believe it or not I actually had gone to your link and read them. I was trying to figure out how best to comment on them item by item when you posted them. That made it much easier.

FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY-------I agree.

TAX POLICY------I agree 100 per cent. Flat tax for everyone with NO EXEMPTIONS.

JOB CREATION------Exactly what do you mean by America First? Sounds good, but how does it work?

PERSONAL HEALTHCARE------I agree...but only as long as all Americans have access to that affordable relationship including the poorest among us.

PUBLIC EDUCATION------I thought we already had equal access to....with accountability measures in place.

GOVERNMENT AHD ETHICS------Good luck on this one....lol

ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY------So when the two become at cross purposes to one another (as they often do), which side wins?

ENERGY POLICY------That pretty much answers my question about ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY above.

FOREIGN POLICY------Respecting the sovereignty of ALL nations.....while at the same time supporting our allies might be a little hard to do sometimes.

NATIONAL SECURITY------Who defines best? I mean it is a high sounding ideal but pretty much every Tom-Dick-and Harry has a different idea on what best is.

CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS------I agree....all of the rights and principles put forth there....and applied equally to all of our citizens.

All of the above are high sounding ideals that pretty much without exception are put out in theory by the Republicans, the Democrats, and the Tea Party, also. But high sounding ideals rarely ever make it into practice. So why am I to believe these guys will do any better than the other guys have been able to do.

As to the Environmental Policy and the Energy Policy....pretty much everybody would support the ideal of environmental protection and energy independence. The devil however is in the details as to how to get there from here. I would need a lot more information.

September 18, 2010 at 3:28 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...

"But high sounding ideals rarely ever make it into practice. So why am I to believe these guys will do any better than the other guys have been able to do. "

You don't have to believe. I DO NOT CARE. But if you are at all unsatisfied with the way politics work in this country the only way to change it is to stop trying the same thing over and over and over. We continually put either a republican or a demorat in offices and expect things to magically change. I think more parties would be a positive change to our current system. The only way to get more parties is to support them(vote for them, donate to them, spread the word about them, etc.).

September 18, 2010 at 3:54 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

if any of you still need to register to vote, do it online at:

https://www.kdor.org/voterregistration

September 18, 2010 at 4:16 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

Either way. More parties or no parties would be a great improvement to the two parties we have now. And I didn't forget the Tea Party.....that's just what the Republican Party is currently morphing into. I personally like George Washington's idea best. Outlaw all political parties.

In the mean time I hope those moderate Republicans....RINO's to the right wing....soon wake up and realize there is a new home for them where you can be free to not be "intuitively right". Intuitively Right is synonymous with herd mentality.

September 18, 2010 at 4:30 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

REWBA (anonymous) says...

Political parties are all the same. Good people with good intentions trying to make a difference get caught up in a system of self serving power hungry career politicians who all want to keep their spot on the floor. The newbie in the room will have to get reelected several times to even have a voice and until then the newbie gets a closet sized office in the furthest building away from the capitol. What started out as an honest attempt to change the system always turns into a struggle to get a bigger office and get a chairman's seat on an important committee. Important committees are the ones with the power to spend hundreds of billions. No politician wants to be on a committee that only gets to spend hundreds of millions because that is an embarrassment in the highfalutin world of national politics. By the time that the junior senator from Podunk Kansas gets any authority or voice it is too late. He/she will be caught up in the corrupt system built by corrupt people over the past two centuries. Idealists are chewed up at breakfast and pooped out before lunch. That's why I vote for liberals. Even when they have total control to do anything they want, they screw it up and nothing gets done.

September 18, 2010 at 4:32 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

Great point about Liberals REWBA. Without the encumbrance of being intuitively left, they usually end up going off in all directions spending more time fighting each other than fighting the opposition. This in turn leads to things like our current health care reform law. A watered down--wishy washy--monument to the art of caving in to pressure from the other side as well as members of their own party.

Who can really fear such an inept group of mollycoddlers.

September 18, 2010 at 4:42 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

sail (anonymous) says...

Biscuit boy, your 2:02 post says it all,you would rather serve under an elected official...... hmmm kind of runs counter to being a free man to me.Elected people can and should be removed when they become... shall I dare say like OUR CURRENT CONGRESS. Elected officials are put in office to serve us.

September 18, 2010 at 6:45 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

sail (anonymous) says...

My fear is at some point elections will be divided between tax payers and tax consumers.

September 18, 2010 at 6:58 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

REWBA (anonymous) says...

"Elected officials are put in office to serve us."

Actually, individuals seek the elected office. What kind of personality does that? I'm sure that type of person thinks highly of themselves. Sure, they smile and tell you they want to serve you but after the election they still print their job title on their letterhead and it doesn't say servant.

September 18, 2010 at 6:59 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

tbluma (anonymous) says...

sail
You're fear has already happened.
A true liberal gets elected by a tax consumer ( a bum, welfare recipiant etc).
A true conservative gets elected by a tax payer.
The problem is, we seem to have lost all the true conservatives.

September 18, 2010 at 7:47 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

oh4theluvof (anonymous) says...

"Little or no government, replaces the power of government with the power of war lords. It's human nature folks. In the absence of governmental control, the biggest, the strongest, the meanest, will rise to fill the void."

I agree in principal, although I wouldn't call them "war lords" as much as I would "money-grubbers." However, I believe that the competition between these people seeking the money and power keeps things balanced and protects us to some degree. I think the limited government is there to place restrictions on how far they can wield their power over us. I know that replacing the plethora of current and up-and-coming money-grubbers with a single entity has been historically proven to destroy countries. Therefore, I think that's a BAD idea. I know that a lot of people on the low end of the economic scale feel unprotected from the money-grubbers right now and want the government to fix that. In my estimation, though, it is because the government, as is, is too busy pursuing being the top money-grubber. If we keep putting the same two parties in who are doing all this money-grubbing, nothing will change. If we put a new party or two legitimately into the mix, something might change. The competition among the parties will help balance them.
However, to some degree, the persons on the low end will always feel unprotected by comparison because that is the effect money, or the lack thereof, has. Our sense of security is usually innately linked to our possession of wealth.

And as for the public education thing, yes we all currently have equal access, but the quality is deteriorating rapidly as the accountability is consistently dropping the standards under both GOP and Dem watches. Again, true change is our best chance of effecting true change.

September 18, 2010 at 8:17 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

sail

Your 6;45 p.m. post is spoken like a guy that must believe he is the biggest, baddest, and meanest.......or is naive enough to think that in a world without government everybody will just follow the rules anyway. Which one is it?

The only other possibility is you believe that everybody's desires and rules they hold for them self will automatically be in synch with everybody else's rules and desires.

Who would maintain order in your world with out government.....who would build roads and bridges and take care of you when a tornado blew your happy butt away?

September 19, 2010 at 3:24 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

oh4

In a world without government, the idea that the competition between the money grubbers, will hold their individual powers in check has been dis-proven most recently by Somalia, where the money grubbers are called war-lords.

Of course I realize you are not talking about a world without government...just a world with less government. I am fine with somewhat less government. I would just like to see the reductions made across the board in all government, not just in those areas that offend me or do not benefit me directly.

You are dead on about one thing. Nobody thinks about money more than the person that doesn't have any. I have always believed that we have more to gain by pacifying the rabble with some minimum level of of livelihood, than by having an under class of desperate people with nothing to lose roaming our streets and our neighborhoods doing whatever they have to to survive.

For an historical perspective on how well that works look at Merry Old England, or the City of Edinburough, Scotland.

September 19, 2010 at 3:44 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

sail

After re-reading your 6:45 p.m. post I must admit I misinterpreted much of what you were saying.

Of course I agree that we can and should remove elected officials that are not doing the job we sent them to do. But that includes those that are not doing the job I wanted done just as it includes those that are not doing the job you wanted done. Problems is the job you and I wanted done are almost certainly different.

Fortunately...the people who hold the ultimate power are not the ones on the extreme right or left...but the ones in the middle that keep the extremes in check. As long as that continues, we will both remain free.

September 19, 2010 at 4:53 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

biscuit,

will we be seeing you at Bruff's tomorrow night?

September 19, 2010 at 6:02 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

Steve.......

I'm glad you asked that. I am planning on attending to hear what he has to say and offer my vote and support. Of course I realize the importance of fund raising and would be glad to help....but as you already know, at this time, I am barely able to help myself.

I'm taking as a matter of faith that a "donation" a la Sam Brownback will not be demanded at the door prior to admittance

September 19, 2010 at 6:41 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

biscuit,

It is a meet and greet. The campaign will be taking donations, but I am stressing that they are strictly voluntary, and not mandatory.

I am hosting this event so people around here will get a face to face without paying for it like Sam's campaign supporters did at the country club.

All are welcome at no cost, I only expect civility from those attending. Oh, by the way, Sandy Bastin is baking some killer cookies:>)

If after the speeches are made and questions answered somone wants to make a donation, of course the campaign wouldn't turn it down.

I would like to see you and some of the other bloggers there so we can discuss this later on, (pro or con).

September 19, 2010 at 7:19 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

I would have mailed create an invitation, (maybe I did), but not sure of their real name.

September 19, 2010 at 7:23 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

Thanks Steve

And hopefully I will be able to make a small donation later on.

September 19, 2010 at 7:41 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...

So this meet and greet dealio is to get to know the candidate and decide whether or not you want to vote for him and people have already decided to donate to his campaign? Sounds like minds are already made up, as I suspected.

September 19, 2010 at 8:06 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

biscuitboy made the comment, " I just keep saying it. Little or no government, replaces the power of government with the power of war lords. ", which I agree with . However it seems to me that our " elected " so called " representative " government we have in place, is a government of the, shall I say ... " Lords " , albeit, not " War Lords " , but self percieved " Lords " just the same.

Steve, I too will do my best to try and attend . However I will decline to make a donation at the time, as I would like to here what Mr. Holland has to say and his thought on what needs to be done to to bring government back to truly being a government " Of the People by the People and for the People ", especially a government " For all of the People " and not a government " For a Few of The People ", as we have/had for some time now, before I donate anything to anyones election campaign or place my trust in them or even vote for them .
Forgive me for being such a skeptic and untrusting, but of late, politicians and politics, in my opinion are just not worthy of anyones blind " Faith and Trust " !

And I promise I will not or at least try control my demeanor .

I am hoping my legs will be up to the task of attending, as I have given them quite a work out over the last few days.
Almost more than they could handle.

September 19, 2010 at 8:29 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

sail (anonymous) says...

Awesome post Mr. Methusla.

September 19, 2010 at 9 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

seriouslyfolks

Then am I to assume your mind is still wide open as to who you are going to vote for? Did the person that has been posting under your handle for the past several days promoting a certain Libertarian candidate hijack your user name?

September 19, 2010 at 9:50 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...

Go back and read my posts. I have made up my mind and have stated who I will be voting for and it is the Reform party candidate not the Libertarian. The reason I keep talking about the Libertarian candidate is that most of y'all say your liberal and the dude seems to be liberal but is also fiscally responsible(an odd combo that some might find interesting). I put the info out there so people could "be informed". You know, like the title of Steve's letter(or whatever it's called). I've never even claimed to have an open mind. I have stated many times that I have beliefs and I use those to make decisions. This is how it works for everyone but somewhere along the line somebody came up with the silly idea that people can make decisions based on nothing and they called that being open minded and now it's a high and noble thing to be open minded. lol
In actuality it doesn't work that way and can't. You have had a life with certain experiences and you have chosen to believe some things and discard some things and have retained certain information and have forgotten certain information and you have a "nature" that influences you and you take all this information and you make judgments based on all that and probably a bunch of other stuff that I don't know about or am forgetting. You nor I approach things as a blank slate and look at them completely objectively with no influence from outside the thing in which we are approaching. I'm not open minded and I'm honest about it. I haven't been since before birth. There were things in the womb influencing me. Think about when a woman gets a sonogram to see what the sex of the baby ....ooops ... I mean lump of insignificant tissue is. The meaningless lump of tissue may have turned to one side or the other based on how the environment made it feel. I know I used to be in my mother's womb and realize that my experiences in there had some sort of impact on me. I don't remember them so they probably aren't affecting me today but there may have been some pain or joy that does still on some level. I don't know. A lot of people have been told that they used to be in their moms wombs but they don't believe it. I guess cuz they can't remember it.

September 19, 2010 at 3:22 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

I agree totally seriouslyfolks, and in fact, have argued much the same thing myself on these very boards. So I was having a hard time understanding why you seemed to be upset with others for something you had obviously done your self. At least that was the way I interpreted your post.

If that is not the way you meant your post to be interpreted, I will accept your clarified interpretation and will disregard the interpretation I originally interpreted.

I hope you now interpret my post in the way that I intended it to be interpreted. If however you have a different interpretation feel free to let me know so as I too might then have the opportunity to clarify my interpretation thereby then giving you a new interpretation to interpret......

September 19, 2010 at 3:54 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...

Now I'm confused............. :-)

I think I just assumed everybody was going to this wake and bake or whatever it's called to make up their minds about this dude but then some people have already said they will support him(at least financially). Why go to something to make up your mind if it's already made up? Just to look at the dude? Is he good lookin'? I will not support him(even if he's as good lookin' as Obama) because he is a Democrat and I don't like"their lunatic fringe"(or whatever create said about the Republicans). I'm honest about it. I won't vote for a Democrat. The reason I can make such a statement is I know what that party stands for and while most of it I don't mind there are things I do and if someone joins that party I hope they are smart enough to know what the party stands for and believes in it themselves and if they don't know anything about the party they are joining then they aren't smart and don't deserve my vote. I pretty much vote for a party now, whoever they put up I'll vote for them. They won't ever win in my life time so they and I will always be losers(nothing new for me). Hopefully though we as a party can gain support and be something someday. That is why I will be voting for the Constitution/Reform party. There you go and there you have it. How did I get off on that tangent?

September 19, 2010 at 4:39 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

I have no idea how you got off on that tangent......Sorry.

September 19, 2010 at 4:44 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

Well, seriously, now don' t get all bent out of shape at what I am going to say ...but from what information I have been able to gather ... the " Reform Party " as it now stands is " fraught " with the same sort of " infighting ", "indecision " , " corruptness ", " Greed " and lack of " resolve " or " backbone " as all of the rest of the Political Partys that exist in the U.S.. So I really don' t see any difference between the Reform Party and any other " run of the mill " Political Party or candidate .

I am going to try and attend the Holland meet an chew the fat, in order to get an idea of what the man is about, no donation though, just a " recon " mission !

As the French say, " Se La Vie " or as far as Politics and Political Partys are concerned " Same Ole, Same Ole " !

September 19, 2010 at 5:30 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

seriouslyfolks,

Loved the wake and bake line, really.

It is not my intention to indoctrinate or change anyone's mind. It is just a get together, a chance to meet one of the candidates.

A lot of us have already made up our minds (including you), and that's fine and dandy.

Some may have not made up their minds yet, and I think this will be one opportunity to become involved, informed, and make a difference.

Nothing more, Nothing less.

September 19, 2010 at 5:50 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...

methusla,

I agree with what you're saying. I'd just really like to see more parties and that is the one I've chosen(Constitution Party called Reform Party in Kansas for some reason) to support because I agree with them the most, I know they ain't perfect. The reason's that biscuitboy and create stated for dismissing the Libertarian Party are the same reasons I am not going to support them. I think the Libertarians are a little too close to anarchists for a "choir boy" like me. ;-)

Steve,

I know your intention in doing this and I respect that. It is the same reason I posted the info about the other candidates. So people could be informed that there are more than two candidates. I wish I would have posted the info earlier on in the discussion before I got all sorts of annoyed that it just became a bash Brownback thread. I should have just posted the links with a short explanation and left it at that, but I wouldn't be a real EG poster if I did it the nice way the first time. =-)

September 19, 2010 at 6:19 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

dalelinn (Dale Linn) says...

I'm not on here to "bash" anyone. I have watched Brownback and his illegal immigration stance. He did take to the Senate floor to talk against more border patrol. He did consistently vote for amnesty. On the last big bill, when he found out it wasn't going to pass, he changed his vote. I talked to him personally about his pro amnesty/illega immigration stance at the state fair a few years ago. I got nowhere. I would not vote for him again, nor trust him.

September 20, 2010 at 12:21 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...

Did you check out the links I posted Dale? You seem like a Reform party kinda guy to me.

September 20, 2010 at 1:03 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

sail (anonymous) says...

Interesting pole results on longbine @ Karr, wonder what the pole would be if the voters knew the positions they stand for.

September 20, 2010 at 2:48 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

dalelinn (Dale Linn) says...

seriouslyfolks, yes, I am a reform kinda guy. I once sat my old rose & white '55 ford hardtop in front of the Gazettee all day with reform party posters all over it. I did fail to get the meter fed immediately once. hmmm, it got a ticket immediately. I didn't look at your links, but I will.

September 20, 2010 at 5:15 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

dalelinn (Dale Linn) says...

Someone please explain to me how one can go to a Democratic campaign meeting and hold their head up, considering what we now have in national office. I'm still hanging my head knowing that I'm a registered Republican and that George W was re-elected, despite my campaigning against him.

September 20, 2010 at 5:24 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

Don't be sorry or hang your head, just because you are a registered republican, a lot of us in Kansas are.

All politics begin at the local level.

The meeting last night was not a democratic fundraiser.

It was a fundraiser for Tom Holland, who just happens to be a democrat.

Nov. 3rd the pundits on t.v. and the heads of the parties, all over the country, will be scratching their heads and saying "what did we miss here?"

It's not so much dem /repub /tea party , as it is just a lot of angry voters lashing out at anyone currently holding office.

September 21, 2010 at 11:25 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )