Turn down the music
Terry G. Wells - Emporia
Wednesday, November 3, 2010
It is now 7:45 p.m. on a Saturday night.
My windows are closed, my air conditioner is running and my television’s volume is on 30 out of a possible 60 and I can still hear or should I say feel the music that is coming from Las Casitas park. The music is so loud that my windows literally vibrate when they play certain notes. Let me just mention that I live a mile and three tenths from Las Casitas.
The City of Emporia supposedly has a loud noise/music ordinance that they selectively enforce. I realize they purchase a permit to hold their venues, but why must the rest of us not attending the event be forced (and I do mean forced as I was at 6th and Commercial and could hear it) to tolerate this excessive amount of pure loudness. Has anyone from the city tested the decibel levels at one of these events? When someone coined the term “Feel The Music,” I do not think they meant from a mile and half away.
My son has a scanner and I was listening to the police dispatcher sending an officer out there to tell them to turn it down a little and stated that she had taken four calls in the last 45 minutes about the loud music. Every single time they have an event at Las Casitas, officers are sent there to ask them to turn it down. Why must the entire community endure this? I really feel sorry for the people who live directly nearby. Even if you love the music, Loud is Loud. What is the cost to the city in dollars and cents for the manpower and time it takes to send an officer out there two, three, four, five times in an evening to tell them to turn it down. Is the permit fee sufficient to cover the labor costs. There seem to be more events at “Las Casitas” this year than I can remember in the past and every event is loud. It seems the thinking is “OK, let’s see how loud we can really get this time.”
I am not against the music and enjoy some of it at a decent volume. I have several neighbors who are Hispanic that are upset with the volume levels as well as myself. If you are trying to enforce a prohibited noise ordinance coming from cars and house parties, how can a fee for a permit change that? Pay a dollar fee for a permit and then get as loud as you want?
What if the music were hard core rock and roll, or worse yet, Opera, would the Hispanic community embrace that? I pray to God the tornado sirens never go off during one of these events. In the meantime I will be investing in ear plug stock. Will the city be doing anything about this?
Terry G. Wells
Emporia
bobhornet (anonymous) says...
Way to slip in an ethnic slam at the end... Small wonder that outsiders view Emporia in a poor light.
November 3, 2010 at 12:49 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
"Small wonder that outsiders view Emporia in a poor light."
Which ones? Ponyboy? Sodapop? Dally? Surely not Johnny?
November 3, 2010 at 1:22 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
HenryVIII (anonymous) says...
I feel bad for the people who live next to the fairgrounds. Those poor souls have to deal with revving engines all night long during the demolition derbies, tractor pulls and races. Talk about annoying! Then there is the hootin' and hollerin' that goes on at such events. Horrid...
Also, I imagine people living near ESU can't stand to hear the announcer on the loudspeaker during all the games and events that go on there. Don't even get me started on fireworks! No matter where you live, you're bound to be roused with sporadic to constant booms and bangs. Stupid people celebrating stuff... Why can't they show some respect for us people who never do anything fun? Oh, and thunderstorms...those are a pain. Why would god torment us with window-rattling thunder? Something needs to be done about that guy's lack of respect.
'enry
P.S. This post is chalk-full o' sarcasm. I'd actually recommend new windows or relocation if you think noise is a problem.
November 3, 2010 at 1:42 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
genxer (anonymous) says...
Ethnic slam? Guess I miss that one, unless hispanic is a dirty word to bobhornet.
November 3, 2010 at 2:05 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
neighbor (anonymous) says...
How about those loud intercoms and industrial noise, the train horns and interstate traffic noise? Throw in the bands at the ball games, extra traffic due to garage sales on early Saturday mornings.
Admit it's the genre that bothers you most Terry, everyone else who read this should recognizes it.
November 3, 2010 at 2:22 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
biscuitboy (anonymous) says...
Really.....
I hear train horns all night long as well as Las Casitas Park, drag racers on sixth avenue, and the loudspeakers and bands at Welsh Stadium during home games. I also live in the flight path for the medevac helicopter coming and going to NRH. Noise is a part of everyday life....get used to it.
I agree with neighbor and bobhornet...it seems it might be the genre that is bothering you the most. In fact, if you can hear the music from Las Casitas Park, you have to be able to hear the trains all night long since the park and the tracks are right next to each other.
November 3, 2010 at 2:50 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
methusla (anonymous) says...
All I can say is ... I like " Dead Silence " even less than the everyday and night noises, that may be annoying . " Dead Silence " makes me wonder if I am dead, but when I hear the everyday and night noises of " Life " and some may annoy me, then I know that I am alive and able to enjoy life, good or bad !
November 3, 2010 at 3:02 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
kira002 (anonymous) says...
I sent a formal letter of complaint to the city after an event was held in a parking lot near my house this past summer. It was a fundraiser, and I applaud the organizers for wanting to do good, but once again the city had issued a permit for loud music through midnight just 1/2 block from a residential area.
I first asked the people in charge to turn down the music (and quit blocking the alley), and was met with snideness. I then called the police who were able to make them remove the blockades and vehicles from the alley, but couldn't make them turn down the volume. Yes, it was a Saturday night, but that doesn't mean I and others in the neighborhood didn't need our sleep. Nor did I wish to be forced to listen to their music in my own home for 6 hours.
So far, no response from the city to my complaint.
And before you ask: no, it wasn't a Hispanic event or any other "ethnic" event; I'm probably one of the younger people who comment here; and I'm used to the trains and sirens and noise of living near downtown Emporia (I don't particularly like it, but I'm used to it).
November 3, 2010 at 3:26 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
dj2879 (anonymous) says...
Kira002-
I'm pretty sure we must live near each other, as I recall the fundraiser you were talking about.
And yes, I can hear the ESU games (I was a Marching Hornet, so watch what you say about the band!) and also the Live in the Lot concerts and movies. Some of the concerts have made me roll my eyes, and go inside and turn my tv up, but the difference in these events is that they don't go past "normal" bedtimes. And while I don't abide by that normal bedtime, I'm still annoyed when one of my neighbors starts cranking their music at midnight, whether I'm up or not. One of the reasons I chose to buy a house instead of renting any apartment any longer was so I didn't have to listen to my neighbor's music. Guess I should have moved farther away from campus.
November 3, 2010 at 3:36 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
bloomsbury (SC DIXON) says...
The argument can be made that there are certain “noises” we have no real control over…at least for the time being. Trains fall into that category. But Emporia does indeed have a so-called noise ordinance and, like so very many other laws in Emporia, they basically go un-enforced. Music, whether it is from the cars cruising downtown or in this case at a public event, is, after all, controllable. First off, people should be willing to comply with a request to “turn it down” without hostility and sarcasm. To my knowledge disturbing the peace is not a “right” in our society, at least not yet. Simply stated, it is always a shame when people will not willingly comply with a reasonable request in the first place, or for that matter, put others in a position to complain when it shouldn’t be necessary. One would think that, after a certain hour, people would have the commons sense to know that a loud band or DeeJay is bound to be a problem for others.
So much for respect and common courtesy. Which, bye-the-by is where the law ostensibly should step in. If there is a noise ordinance enforce it. Or take it off the books.
November 3, 2010 at 3:44 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
HenryVIII (anonymous) says...
Stevie (aka: Mr. "too cool to spell-out my first name"),
We could re-route the train tracks outside of town. Heck, they don't even stop here anymore do they?
What about parades? All those bands, music, honking horns and sirens! Something should be done about this. Where's a cop when you need him? Oh, they're in the parade too... What if I work nights and I'm trying to get some sleep in my apartment on main street? Why doesn't the city enforce the sound ordinance during parades?
Then there are the spoiled little white kids who put big speakers in their fancy SUV's and blast "whitey" music all up and down my cul-de-sac. I have some white neighbors who also don't like it, so I'm not racist or anything. I mean, I like some of that whitey music at decent volumes, but come on! I wonder if the cracker community would be so tolerant of it if it was some sort of non-whitey music or, even worse, opera music.
'enry Esq.
P.S. I'm a "white" and don't really think the type of music or race of the people listening to it has any relevance to the issue. Ol' Terry Wells does, though. With the Republicans in office, we can expect more comments like Terry's in the near future. "If you ain't prayin' to our god, speakin' our language, and listenin' to our music, then you must be stopped."
November 3, 2010 at 4:38 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...
While I hate the idea of censorship and non freedom of the press, it may be time to just close down all of these threads for a week or so and give EVERYBODY a chance to cool their jets.
Geeze people, what is wrong with us all?
November 3, 2010 at 9:37 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Chevy_Guy (anonymous) says...
WHAT STEVE? I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER ALL THE MARIACHI MUSIC!
November 3, 2010 at 11:16 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
biscuitboy (anonymous) says...
Steve
What is wrong with us is a direct cause and effect of the current political climate. You can't have all the vitriolic rhetoric, hate, and anger that passes for political debate anymore with out it further spilling over in to other areas and further dividing our country.
I really have serious concerns for the future of America when we can't even disagree anymore with out attack and anger and hatred from both sides. If it continues it will tear this country apart.....I just hope I am dead before that happens. It doesn't have to be this way. There is an old fellow (Korean War veteran) that lives near me. He is an arch-conservative. Listens to Rush Limbaugh every day. We agreed at the outset not to discuss politics with each other. As a result we set on his front porch and talk about our respective wars....the nice weather......and women and good times we have both known. We like each other. The sad part is we can only like each other by ignoring our political differences....but by doing that we guarantee we will never be able to find common ground. And that failure is what will destroy us.
Just call that ole biscuit's prophecy...and Charlie Manson says...."we fear our prophets, so we kill them."
November 4, 2010 at 4:15 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
biscuitboy (anonymous) says...
I better make one thing clear or somebody will surely call me on it.
Yes.....I am not being a hypocrite....I am as guilty as anyone. When I am met with anger I respond with anger. When some body fights dirty with me....I fight dirtier with them. You kick sand in my face I'll kick rocks in yours.
But it doesn't have to be that way. Just because I do it doesn't make it right......anymore than it makes it right when others do it to me.
On a personal note. I have been in full battle mode since yesterday morning. I do apologize and will do my best today to get it fixed.
November 4, 2010 at 4:32 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
create (anonymous) says...
Ohmmmmmmmm...
November 4, 2010 at 6:10 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
biscuitboy (anonymous) says...
create
My sister in law that lives in Detroit Ohmmmmmmmmm's everyday and has for years. She does seem to be remarkably able to keep her head when others around her are losing theirs.
November 4, 2010 at 6:22 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
rabblerouser (anonymous) says...
Bottom line. There is no need for the music at Las Casitas park to be so frickin LOUD. That music is so loud it is probably sterializing everyone within a half mile. The music could still be enjoyed at half the volumn and there is absolutely no excuse for the police to look the other way and ignore this problem. I have also heard them on our scanner telling each other "Wait until someone complains, or we had them turn the speaker a little, maybe that will help". That music was so loud the last time I drove down South Avenue, it peeled the paint off my truck!!!
Jeeezzzz, Just turn the music down already!!!!!!!!!
November 4, 2010 at 7:05 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
biscuitboy (anonymous) says...
I could perhaps have more sympathy for Terry except for the first line of the wail......"It is now 7:45 p.m. on a Saturday night."
I mean 7;45 p.m. on a Saturday night? To hear Terry talk one would think it was 2 a.m. on a Tuesday. It's early evening on a weekend night......maybe Terry should go join in the fun for a little while and lighten up.
November 4, 2010 at 7:57 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
genxer (anonymous) says...
Loud music gets on my nerves but especially loud music in Spanish. Let me explain. It makes me wonder, how is it that there are hundreds of people congregated over there that understand Spanish that well.
And, given the current status of our southern border, I then get to wondering, how many of them are here illegally? Now before you people go off on me for being racist, stop for a second. That is not racism it is prejudice.
I also feel the same way when I'm behind someone in Walmart who cannot speak english and is using food stamps. Except that I also wonder how someone who cannot speak english and is probably here illegally came to be on food stamps.
Why would someone like me, a person with legally hispanic close relatives who I love jump to the conclusion that people who speak spanish only might be here illegally?
I'm not saying that I don't feel for these people, whether they are legal or illegal. But if they are illegal they are basically stealing. And the ones who are here illegally are making things bad for all of them.
Think about that.
November 4, 2010 at 8:36 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
AverageCitizen2 (anonymous) says...
Hey, biscuit...is the Gazette calling you a clown? Check out the cartoon on the homepage.
November 4, 2010 at 8:56 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
AverageCitizen2 (anonymous) says...
Does Gwen have to call Chris, Mr. Walker? Seems a bit formal.
November 4, 2010 at 8:59 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
biscuitboy (anonymous) says...
genxer
For once I am not really arguing with you on your basic premise that most people that are here illegally speak little or no English. I do want to point out though that I too have Mexican in laws, some of which I love dearly, they are all natural born American citizens of parents that were naturalized American citizens. Most of them are bilingual and they speak Spanish around the older members of the family because the older members are more comfortable speaking Spanish.
Any bilingual person will choose their first language over subsequent languages, given the choice, because you are always more comfortable with your first language. So many English speaking legal aliens still speak Spanish whenever they are with other Spanish speaking people because it is their first language.
So just because a person is speaking Spanish does not necessarily mean they are here illegally. And the last I heard it was not illegal to speak any language other than English in this country....nor to play ethnic music either.
November 4, 2010 at 9:06 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
biscuitboy (anonymous) says...
Average
I don't know....if they were maybe they changed their minds.....all I see is a black box.
November 4, 2010 at 9:11 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
biscuitboy (anonymous) says...
Guess you will have to describe it to me. But even if they were they have every right to do so......and I know for certain that I am not the only one to post on here who would qualify...huh average!
November 4, 2010 at 9:15 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
biscuitboy (anonymous) says...
average, you are so stereotypically conservative. You can't compete with logic and argument so you fall back on the only discourse you are capable of handling......personal insult. Well buddy.....a lot better people than you have tried to run me off here that way. Didn't work then.....won't work now.
November 4, 2010 at 9:21 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
biscuitboy (anonymous) says...
Steve....So much for apologies my friend.....
November 4, 2010 at 9:23 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
genxer (anonymous) says...
That cartoon is actually really well done for the gazette.
bb, they actually have a clown holding up a picket that says "biscuitboy" is my real name. Basically what they are saying is they are against anonymity on these message boards.
Sort of odd for a paper.
November 4, 2010 at 9:33 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
biscuitboy (anonymous) says...
genxer
My real name is Preston Monroe. Is your real name genxer? What about you Average.....is average your real name. I use my real name on these boards regularly so who ever did the cartoon obviously didn't know what they were talking about.
Now....I am waiting to hear you two clowns real names....and waiting......and waiting....and waiting.
I wonder why the Gazette pulled it if it was so well done.
November 4, 2010 at 9:46 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
genxer (anonymous) says...
bb, it's still there.
Me saying it was well done was not knocking you. It was simply a pretty good cartoon, illustration-wise.
I wasn't saying you were a clown at all, I'm sorry you took it that way. And I don't agree with the gazettes argument that anonymity is a bad thing. I'll respectfully retain mine until the gazette stops allowing it, at which point I'll leave.
Sorry you took my previous post the wrong way, it was not my intention to offend you and I have no idea why they singled you out, since your view point probably most closely reflects theirs than a lot of others on here.
November 4, 2010 at 9:59 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
Preston and I are among the very few who actually sign our real names.
Seriously R. Folks
November 4, 2010 at 10:02 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
http://www.emporiagazette.com/photos/...
November 4, 2010 at 10:03 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
biscuitboy (anonymous) says...
Still waiting....and waiting....and waiting.....There are conservatives on these boards that I respect and even like.
Ones like open_eyes, tbluma, bluelightspecial, and several others. They give thoughtful reasoned arguments to support their beliefs and have even been known to change my mind at times.
Then there are the anonymous clowns.
I hope I don't get the ones I mentioned by user name kicked out of the conservative league for actually using thought and reason to present their case.
Preston Monroe....aka biscuitboy
Still waiting.
November 4, 2010 at 10:05 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
tbluma (anonymous) says...
I have to agree with Terry
I've called about it more than once and I might as well have called the Wichita police about it.
As some one else mentioned train horns don't fall in to the same class as music.
Just wondering if it was a country western or rock in roll concert if it would be tolerated as much and as often.
November 4, 2010 at 10:13 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
biscuitboy (anonymous) says...
Thank you seriouslyfolks....aka seriouslyfolks .....for the link. I guess The gazette staff must not pay much attention because I signed my real name to at least four post on the threads they pulled the other day. But again, The Gazette, average, and others have every right to express their opinion about me, but until The Gazette pulls my user privilege I am not going anywhere. Sorry about that average....Oh....and I am still waiting.
Preston Monroe....aka biscuitboy
November 4, 2010 at 10:16 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
genxer (anonymous) says...
Well don't hold your breath on me "coming out". :)
I'm not sure why you're so fired up at the anon. posters on here. None of us called you a clown. We were simply relaying what was in the cartoon to you since you couldn't see it.
November 4, 2010 at 10:17 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
create (anonymous) says...
I hope you get a chance to see the cartoon, biscuitboy, especially since you are prominently featured. It's really rather good. I can't quite make out who the cartoonist is, however.
I like the sign in the background that accuses the 4th Estate of being for sale -- something I've heard quite frequently on these threads.
November 4, 2010 at 10:21 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
biscuitboy (anonymous) says...
genxer
Get your drawers out of a bunch and notice in my last post I removed any reference to you because I accept your desire to remain anonymous even though I think it gives some posters a lot of false courage.
Preston Monroe....aka biscuitboy
November 4, 2010 at 10:25 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
genxer (anonymous) says...
If I got my moniker in a cartoon like that you can bet I'd be trying to get the original so I could get it framed!
November 4, 2010 at 10:26 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
genxer (anonymous) says...
bb, you are correct. I would not be posting a lot of my true feelings on here if I wasn't doing it anonymously. I don't want my beliefs to be held against me or anyone in my family and some of the things that I say on here people could take offense to.
November 4, 2010 at 10:31 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
biscuitboy (anonymous) says...
create
Thanks to seriously's link I have seen it now...and it is admittedly quite good....and funny.
Since I am about the only poster on here using an anonymous user name that does sign post when I feel it is important, I do wonder why they singled me out. And of course that might be the reason they did. Whatever the case it is a good cartoon....and like Lindsey Lohan always says....Hell, bad press is better than no press at all. At least I know I have their attention.
November 4, 2010 at 10:31 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
biscuitboy (anonymous) says...
Good Idea......I think I will try to get a print. And believe me, I do know about people taking offense....I really do.....but I always think well if they are that offensed by it, they can use the gate and leave....:-)
November 4, 2010 at 10:34 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
I'd take it as an honor if I were you, Preston.
I don't like how they portrayed me as what appears to be a female rabbit though.
:-P
;-)
November 4, 2010 at 10:36 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
whoops I forgot to sign my name.
Seriously R. Folks
November 4, 2010 at 10:37 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
AverageCitizen2 (anonymous) says...
1. I'm not a conservative.
2. I wasn't making fun of you. I wasn't calling you a clown. I was just telling you to check out the cartoon. Calm down.
3. Darcie Birk - and I am still fairly anonymous, because no one really knows me. I don't socialize a lot. Admit it…the name doesn’t ring a bell.
4. Everything I say...I stand behind.
I believe what your knickers are really in a twist about is the fact that I called you a hypocrite yesterday...I stand behind that statement today. When it pertains to the comment you made on a different thread yesterday. Each comment and each discussion are different and individual. We agree on some things, but not on everything and that is fine. It doesn’t really change anything one way or the other. It’s just a forum on the Emporia Gazette. Keep it in perspective.
November 4, 2010 at 10:50 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
biscuitboy (anonymous) says...
AverageCitizen2
I just returned from the Gazette office where I got a copy suitable for framing and it will soon be hanging on my wall. Also had a good laugh about it with Chris and he said my name was used because I am one of the most prolific posters on here and consequently a name that would be widely recognized.
I was all in a bunch to start with partly because I couldn't see it until seriouslyfolks linked it to me and was imagining something much worse....and partly because you and I have had a couple of heated exchanges in the past so I saw it as a personal attack. I will be man enough to apologize for overreacting....and look forward to having more heated exchanges with you in the future.
November 4, 2010 at 11:04 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
snow (anonymous) says...
What a blessing to have such a loud, lively town! Ever been to Ottawa? Enjoy the noise (trust me).
November 4, 2010 at 11:05 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...
THIS IS A HOOT !
Now I know what Gwen looks like, foxy!
I did notice that the cartoon was not signed.
It must have been drawn by "anonymous"
November 4, 2010 at 11:07 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
tosie (anonymous) says...
Move to the country if you want peace and quiet......it is called the "city" for a reason. There will always be city noise going on. And it was 7:30pm - if it was midnight I could understand the frustration.
November 4, 2010 at 11:12 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
Personally I think the loud parties should move to the country. Most of us work hard to buy our homes and expect them to be the way we want them to be inside them. If your music penetrates my walls that I am paying for and paying taxes on then you are treading on me. There is no reason to play music so loud that it can be heard through an insulated exterior wall of a home several blocks away. If you feel that you have the right to tread on me in a way that you see is ok, should I also have the right to tread on you in any way that I think is ok?
November 4, 2010 at 11:23 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
neighbor (anonymous) says...
Take a bow BB, you're famous. :)
November 4, 2010 at 12:47 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
scarlett01_98 (anonymous) says...
wait, wait, the country is too loud already. no peace and quiet here between the 30 to 50 dogs living 100 to 300 ft away, the roosters, chickens, geese, ducks, rabbits and cats and dogs. huge dogs oh i really can't forget about the 4 peacocks. they will wake you up in the middle of the night. gimme a band anytime, one family has close to 50 animals on 1/3 of a acre. plus the 12 or so humans living on that piece of land. anyone ever hear a peacock at 3 am?
November 4, 2010 at 1:47 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
biscuitboy (anonymous) says...
Yea...and it looks just like me neighbor.
November 4, 2010 at 1:51 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
scarlett01_98 (anonymous) says...
seriously r folks , i took the rabbit to be a playboy bunny. just my own thought.
November 4, 2010 at 2:20 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
neighbor (anonymous) says...
Naw, I've seen you walking bisquitboy on my way home from work, your nose isnt that big :)
November 4, 2010 at 3 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
bloomsbury (SC DIXON) says...
My, Hankie, so full of vitriol…you should try some fiber in your diet, make you feel better.
Oh, dearie, if I was the “Stevie” in question, or if you meant Mr. Corbin, (some of us use our real names) but for your edification, SC is my legal moniker…just to add to your incredibly expansive field of faux knowledge…though I'm not sure why either of us would assume that is any of your business, hmmm?
November 4, 2010 at 3:13 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
HenryVIII (anonymous) says...
Essie Dixon, (See what I did there?)
I was wondering when you'd get back to me. Hi! I hope you're having a great day. Legal moniker, eh? Maybe I should do that. (maybe "HG Dickson") It makes you sound so dignified and I only teased you because I was jealous.
'enry
Also, it lets the imagination run wild with what it might really mean...
Salad Cucumber
Smoking Cigs
Static Cling
Sour Candy
Short Comings
Sore Cuticle
Shirt Collar
Storage Container
Sorry Chum
Surly Chap
November 4, 2010 at 4:58 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
barefooting (anonymous) says...
I easily sleep through train horns, loud cars, and sirens, but when the music gets louder with each passing hour and its thumping my walls, I thinks the music is to loud. Complaining was pointless, I was told they had a permit so they could carry on. Not everyone has weekends off and it pisses me off that someone can have a permit to blast their music as loud as they do at the park.
November 4, 2010 at 7:16 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
biscuitboy (anonymous) says...
As the crow flies, I live about five to six blocks from that park. I can walk two blocks from my house and see the park across the BNSF yard.
When I am outside on a summers eve I can hear the music quite well, inside my house when the windows are closed it doesn't sound much worse than my neighbor's TV. It is a little louder than the trains while it is happening but it doesn't happen remotely as often as the trains.
It seems to me that some on here are being very sensitive to something that I don't see as a problem. Of course music to one person's ears is a terrible noise to another...depending on your perspective going in.
But speaking from the vantage point of one that lives much closer to the park than our letter writer, I say it is no big deal. Plus winter is coming on now so for the next few months Terry should have a respite to sooth his/her sensitivities.
November 5, 2010 at 4:28 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
biscuitboy (anonymous) says...
I live less than half the distance of our letter writer from the park. In fairness though I must say the problem might be a much bigger deal to me if I only lived two blocks from the park, or even worse right across the street. For the ones that are just driving past on South Avenue when they are so bothered, might I suggest they try Sixth Avenue. Unless you are going to the tipping station you will end up there anyway.
November 5, 2010 at 4:38 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
justaflushaway (anonymous) says...
I agree with you barefooting. but remember Smith said that he wasnt going to investage anything that might have an illigal involved, during a shooting earlier this year,, and besides does the epd have a tool to measure sound? Last time I heard anything about the one they had then that it was broken,,,,, so that is brobably why they are no noise control, but YOU BETTER stick a penny in a parking meter or else
November 5, 2010 at 10:57 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Local_Hispanic (Vic Rodriguez) says...
Well just to let you ya'll know that as a person who has organized events at Las Casitas Park, there have been times when the dj or band was just unloading their equipment when we had a visit from Emporias finest already telling us that people were already complaining about the noise level. Hell nothing was even plugged in! These people must have been psychics??? LOL....VR
November 5, 2010 at 11:23 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
rabblerouser (anonymous) says...
They were probably going from past experience and didn't want the baby woke up when the music started thumping! I'll bet dollars to donuts that if OSHA showed up at any of these events they would shut them down because of the decibal levels! Harmful is harmful and music this loud is not enjoyable. Move your venues out of town and stop making these people suffer. No consideration for your fellow human beings.
November 6, 2010 at 7:50 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
justaflushaway (anonymous) says...
well victor, maybe the noise was coming from those tinny cars that also are driven around town,with that noise as load as you can play it, who were there while the band was setting up also, did anyone ever think about maybe asking anyone (you elders) how stupid that sounds with no insulation in the doors and trunks? or is that just a way to draw attention, they it could of been one of YOUR neighbors who might not like it either who called, and yes I have been around long enough to know what else makes noise, so spare me about the damn trains , bands, parades, loud car mufflers, loud people, a lot of you people who make comments about crap like that on here, your comments sound as bad as the noise that comes from your words, and you will be the first to complain about and you know it. JMO and I am probably right again. and victor maybe it could start with you! AND for those of you who WILL call me racist and I know you will I do like mexican food, a racist would NOT eat mexican food, think about it before your comments fly from your stubby fat fingers
November 6, 2010 at 8:05 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
biscuitboy (anonymous) says...
justaflush
That was one of the most racist post I have ever read on these boards...right down to and including a personal reference to a man's fingers....and I don't give a damn how much you like Mexican food.
I don't like Mexican food but that doesn't have anything to do with how I feel about Mexican people. Victor knows me and my brother (who incidentally is married to one "of those people') and he knows that to be true. Criticize the volume of the music....even the type of music if it makes you happy. But don't criticize the people I have known and respected all my life.
Preston Monroe....aka biscuitboy.
November 6, 2010 at 8:48 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
justaflushaway (anonymous) says...
hey boy, i criticized the volume of the music,, YOU NEED TO GET OVER YOUR DAMN SELF.
and I dont give a damn about you NOT liking Mexican food.......
big deal you know some Mexicans Americans,,,, I do too .... but I didn't try to hide behind that either in my posting
and then Preston, Preston, Preston,, have known of ..you for a long time, do you want me to go get some RACIST crap, think before your skinny fingers start spitting out blow
and since you think showing your name will help,, justaflush..aka...josh miller, that will give you something to do tomorrow, see what you can find on me, well it will give you something to do
the music is to loud, when it can be heard on 8th avenue from south avenue, Preston, you need go go back and SLOWLY read what I wrote and then, fall off your little pony and sit and about it... then now go ahead and continue to call me a racist, I knew it would happen if I DIDNT approve of it,, but that's the way you do things anything to have others follow your lead or you hopping on someone else's bandwagon,
November 6, 2010 at 9:58 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
justthefacts (anonymous) says...
Tsk tsk
November 6, 2010 at 10:08 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
biscuitboy (anonymous) says...
I calls em as I see's em. And you don't have to make veiled reference to my cocaine problems josh....I have spoken openly about that on these boards several times. I'm not going to bother to dig up something on you...it's not worth my time.....plus I don't care what you have done.
My life is an open-book...the good , the bad....and the ugly. That way I don't have to worry about people threatening to dig up dirt on me. The dirt is already well known.
November 6, 2010 at 10:28 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
biscuitboy (anonymous) says...
flush....I wouldn't get too cute with people's user names...if mine made reference to a tiolet.
November 6, 2010 at 10:31 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...
WOW
November 6, 2010 at 10:42 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
biscuitboy (anonymous) says...
Let me see......drug problems....theft to pay for the drugs......time in jail.....did I miss anything josh. That was then...this is now. People can accept me for what I am now or they can reject me for what I was then. The choice is theirs..I couldn't change if I wanted to. I'm an old man now and I am going to say what I have to say before I die.....You can accept that or fly a kite.....I don't really care.
And your post still sounds racist to me....every body else can decide for themselves....that is their choice.
November 6, 2010 at 10:43 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
biscuitboy (anonymous) says...
I did miss a couple of things....I've had two divorces and several traffic tickets. I also ruined my credit with the drug problems....and there was a sweet little girl that I treated like crap when I was too young to know any better. Just last year I finally got the chance to apologize to her. She forgave me which is something I wouldn't expect you to know anything about. I used to drink to much.....I still have a temper and a potty mouth.
November 6, 2010 at 10:52 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
methusla (anonymous) says...
Boy Oh Boy, I really wasn' t going to comment on this issue either, but I believe it is time for everyone to take a " testosterone " lowering drink of Jack Black, Jim Beam, Coors, Bud or something and calm down . We have all made mistakes in our lives, some bad, some not so bad ! Point is, if you don' t make mistakes and learn from them, you are not " Human " ! I have made my share, and learned from them . I have even gotten into some pretty nasty, heated arguments/debates with just about everyone on these threads, but have apologized, when warranted and moved on and some of those I had heated words with are still talking, arguing, bantering and joking with me.
And being loud, obnoxious, disrespectful of others and law breaking is not an inherently ethnic or social class problem !
I am just wondering what the people who live in close proximity to the Music, think about it !
Just yesterday, while I was on my way to pick up my sister from work, while stopped at the traffic signel at 12th & Industrial, a person in a fairly new blue and white " Viper " stopped behind me and the stereo was so loud in this " Thing " my rearview mirror was vibrating like it had " St. Vitus Dance " ! I don' t see how anyone can stand to have there music that loud in an enclosed vehicle, unless they are " Deaf " or something ! It was bothering me and I have lost 40% of my hearing ?
I have found in my life there are things you will have to endure, even though you really shouldn' t have to endure . Thats just part of living and life !
November 6, 2010 at 11:16 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
biscuitboy (anonymous) says...
methusla
Normally about this time I would say good post.....but I wouldn't want to be accused of hoping on someone else's bandwagon...so this time I will not say good post.
November 6, 2010 at 11:47 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
methusla (anonymous) says...
Understood, biscuit !
November 6, 2010 at 12:20 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
create (anonymous) says...
Good post, methusla. These same people are being turned down by the military because of hearing loss.
November 6, 2010 at 4:51 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Local_Hispanic (Vic Rodriguez) says...
(LMFAO!) Justaflushaway, I don't know how you would know this, but I have been called "HotDog Fingers" by a few woman friends of mine. Either way, I had to go back and reread what I posted. I was just mentioning that it doesn't take Loud music to get the law called on us, it can be just the action of unloading the equipment. And without getting into the science of the wind and soundwaves, I can tell you that I have tried to keep the sound to a minimal during our events. But there are other aspects of nature and sound that tend to carry the music clear across town. But hey thanks for the laugh.... And for the record, yes I sometimes had to type with a pencil or else mty poistys woiulfd somntimnes look luike this with mny Hotdsog Finghersd.
November 6, 2010 at 7:46 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
justaflushaway (anonymous) says...
Victor, it was just a wild guess about the fingers,, but taht I do understand.
Create, that was a racist comment, ( I think) even though you used "these" instead of "those", per others here or there
November 6, 2010 at 8:23 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
I have heard people talk about their loud thumpity thump music and their reasoning for having it so loud, they say it is essentially to "upset" other people. Of course they didn't use such nice language. This isn't a problem of a particular "race" it is a problem with immature people(I know, I know, I'm one to talk. :-) ). The people I heard/hear talking about their loud music and "parties" aren't teenagers they are "adults". If they were teenagers I could understand but I would think that as people get older they would grow out of feeling the need to do such things but I guess not.
"When I was a child, I used to speak like a child, think like a child, reason like a child; when I became a man, I did away with childish things."
November 6, 2010 at 8:41 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
methusla (anonymous) says...
seriously,
Apparently you have not reached your second childhood !
I have been told by some, that I have been in my second childhood for a while now. This may be because I still get a kick out of a good practical joke, someone telling a good joke, a good cartoon or animated movie and I still get a big kick out of " Disneys', Fantasa " , Donald Duck, also Tom and Jerry cartoons and I think " Popeye " is the absolute funniest thing I have ever had the pleasure to watch ! In fact I like it so much I have made " Popeyes " little saying my saying, you know, " I am what I am and thats all that I am ! " This is what I will usually tell people if they say I need to change or conform !
However I do have a penchant for " Classical " music and Rock and Roll of the 60s, 70s, and 80s, which I don' t believe any of the younger generation particularly like !
November 6, 2010 at 10:40 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
methusla (anonymous) says...
Local_Hispanic
These people who call the law and complain are not psychic, they more than likely know that from seeing the sheer size of the amplifiers, speakers and etc. that the sound coming from these monsterous comtraptions will be at least 180 + decibles, and will be heard most likely in Americus, Olpe and Hartford !
The only question I have is, Why the giant amplifiers and speakers when the people that wll be entertained will be at the, not that big of Park ?
Again this all comes down to respecting others " PRIVACY " .
When the " Music/Noise " can be heard upwards of 2 to 3 miles away, that is absolutely " Disrespectful to others.
I am not saying that you do not have the right to celebrate your ethnic heritage or to have a party, but respect for others will go a long, long way in being accepted !
So my advice is, it does not take a 10,000 watt amp. or 4 ft.X 6ft. 10,000 watt speakers to have a small private party !
Thank God, winter is not too far off !
Again, of course, this is JMO !
November 6, 2010 at 11:13 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
REWBA (anonymous) says...
The rhythm is gonna get ya! Turn it up!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A7CVr...
White people be warned. Your gonna wanna move in places that your tight @$$ES ain't got joints :-)
November 7, 2010 at 12:01 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
REWBA (anonymous) says...
After the rhythm gets you...Do the conga! Yeah!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ese6Dx...
November 7, 2010 at 12:04 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
REWBA (anonymous) says...
OK now turn that beat around remix style...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyYV83...
Cuba Libre recipe
ingredients:
2 ounces white rum
1 lime(s)
Coca-Cola
Squeeze a lime into a Collins glass, add 2 or 3 ice cubes, and pour in the rum Drop in one of the spent lime shells and fill with cold Coca-Cola. Stir briefly.
November 7, 2010 at 12:11 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
biscuitboy (anonymous) says...
Her drummers are muy bueno.....
November 7, 2010 at 12:23 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
methusla
I wasn't talking about joking around or watching cartoons. Heck, I joke around all the time and I am a cartoon. I love all the same music you do.I was talking about intentionally acting like a fool to make people mad or to "stick it to 'the man' ". Stuff that teenagers(including myself) do/did in the rebellious years.
We know there is no need turn up the music so it can be heard through walls several block away so they must have an altererior motive to do so. I'm talking about any loud music whether it be from a car or "party", I'm not referring to the Las Casitas park "parties" only. I think the people that are "pumping up the 'jams' " are doing it to get a reaction like this letter or getting the cops called. jmo
November 7, 2010 at 7:54 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHQ_aT...
November 7, 2010 at 7:55 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
create (anonymous) says...
Well, how'd you like to live nearby these sounds.
http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/vide...
November 7, 2010 at 8:01 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
biscuitboy (anonymous) says...
I don't know about the sounds...but I wouldn't mind being in sight of the stage.
November 7, 2010 at 8:12 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
methusla (anonymous) says...
seriously,
I meant no offense, I was just relating to how a lot of people I knew and know tell me to " grow up " when, at times, I act a little silly and regress back to my younger more carefree days . You know those days when you had less stress, gave and recieved more respect than today, because your parents taught you a much different lesson about life than is taught today !
If my comment offend you in any way, I do whole heartedly apologize and truley meant no offense by it ! SORRY my friend !
November 7, 2010 at 8:59 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
Your comment didn't offend me, I just wanted to clarify a bit.
November 7, 2010 at 12:31 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
bloomsbury (SC DIXON) says...
I don't visit much, but as to what S. C. stands for it's pretty simple.
Santa Claus.
My beard is going white and I've got the gut thing goin.'
November 10, 2010 at 2:37 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
REWBA (anonymous) says...
Santa Claus, Please stop it with the coal thing! Thank You.
November 10, 2010 at 4:54 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )