Respect, courtesy and recognition
Mark A. Brown, Springfield, Va.
Thursday, May 27, 2010
On Sunday, May 23, my family and I attended the Emporia High graduation ceremony at William L. White Auditorium. It was a day we looked forward to as our son and the other graduates were introduced while walking across the stage to receive their diploma.
As we sat in the auditorium, the scene around us grew ever more distasteful. It was unfortunate that several folks decided it was more appropriate to blow horns and use disruptive behavior to celebrate their student as they walked across the stage. It simply detracted from the entire ceremony where some students’ names could not be heard due to the excessive noise. An announcement was made before the commencement ceremony and it was even written in the graduation program to refrain from such behavior. Unfortunately this simple request went unnoticed.
I thought about my younger days when I sat at my own graduation in the same auditorium. Each graduate was given a simple applause as we each crossed the stage. There was no horn blowing. It seems that good old fashioned values are quickly exiting today’s scene — especially respect and common courtesy. To be honest, people were more polite twenty or thirty years ago.
The graduates themselves were expected to act appropriately during the ceremony and other than a few beach balls making an appearance, they did just that. It was apparent that our graduates acted much more mature than some of the parents, relatives and friends who attended the ceremony.
I hope that as our graduates continue through life and become parents that they will give their future sons and daughters the respect, courtesy and recognition they deserve when they walk across the stage at their commencement and not partake in such loud and disruptive behavior.
Good Luck to the Class of 2010.
Mark A. Brown
Springfield, Va.
sail (anonymous) says...
I agree Matt, there has been a lapse of good taste at graduation. As long as there are no consequences for bad behavior better expect more of it in society.
May 27, 2010 at 11:13 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
admireed (anonymous) says...
Do other school district graduations have the same rude behavior? I have not been to a graduation for some time.
Edward McKernan
May 27, 2010 at 1:57 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
"Well we got no choice
All the girls and boys
Makin all that noise
...............
No more pencils
No more books
No more teacher's dirty looks
Well we got no class
And we got no principles
And we got no innocence
We can't even think of a word that rhymes
...........
School's out for summer"
Alice Cooper
May 27, 2010 at 2:03 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
coif (anonymous) says...
My son graduated at that ceremony. I commited to his grand parents and aunts and uncles that some people have no class and seem to be proud of it.
May 27, 2010 at 2:14 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
eaglefan (anonymous) says...
We also had not attended a graduation for some time and found people to be very rude. Unfortunately, what we noticed was that when students of the hispanic culture were crossing the stage is when the horns were blaring. If they want to celebrate their child's graduation in this manner, it needs to be done at their private family celebration. There were very few other students that had horns blaring and annoying graduation goers. Also, don't try to say folks didn't know because the announcement not to use the air horns was made in both English and Spanish. They just chose to ignore it.
May 27, 2010 at 2:52 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
eldiablo (anonymous) says...
Eaglefan
I graduated not too long ago and heard air horns for plenty of white students. Your comment is stereotypical and unfair. Horns are obnoxious at such events... But for some families, it's just that big of an occasion. You can always tell who was expected to graduate by the lack of applause and noise.
May 27, 2010 at 3:15 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
vankamp (anonymous) says...
eldiablo
Big event or not, they were asked not to do that and they did. Simple respect. I want to hear my childs name announced just as bad as the noisy, rude relatives.
May 27, 2010 at 4:46 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
oh4theluvof (anonymous) says...
Mr. Brown,
We citizens of Emporia have been asked to quit being so negative about our fair community, as it drives away all the thousands of people and businesses who plan to move here until they read or hear our negativity. I would like to applaud your letter and second it for all school functions that families attend, but I can't. I would be driving away prospective newcomers. Please try your best to ignore anything about our town you may find offensive and learn to see only our positive (by hypnosis, if necessary). It's what we do here.
Thank you,
a brainwashed ........ er..... uh..... *delighted* Emporian
May 27, 2010 at 5:14 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
booker5m (anonymous) says...
Killing me Oh4 lol
May 27, 2010 at 5:20 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
concernedmom (anonymous) says...
My son also graduated at this ceremony and I was very frustrated and offended at the lack of respect shown and lack of decorum. With all the horns blaring it was impossible to hear the next student or two or three being announced. How unfair to them. They deserved to have their moment of recognition as well. We even had a hispanic couple sitting behind us that kept answering their cell phones and having loud conversations. An event that I had so looked forward to was turned into a very frustrating and maddening time. I was even hoping that the ceremony would be stopped until the audience could behave. It did not set an example for our kids to follow. I'm glad that there was enthusiasm and pride but couldnt it have been more appropriately shown? I appreciate Mr. Brown writing this letter as it echoes my and my entire family that attended sentiments. Its too bad that the idiots that continued to be disruptive couldnt have been removed from the ceremony. There was a group of them at the top on the east side that were having a great time acting completely inappropriate and disrespectful. Its a shame that a few should be allowed to mar a memory of a lifetime that should be nothing but positive one.
May 27, 2010 at 9:21 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...
The lack of common sense and respect apparently showcased at this ceremony ruins it for those that were brought up properly. Perhaps at next years graduation whoever is in charge will immediately stop the proceedings when a air horn is sounded and wait for the EPD to remove the offenders before resuming. The time for loud and boisterous partying is after the graduation ceremony, not during it.
May 28, 2010 at 6:21 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
spectator (anonymous) says...
Rude and inconsiderate is the only way to describe this. And it's apparent at the -Seasonal Celebration- or whatever it's called now as well. I'm all for the EPD or ESU LEOs escorting these anal retentives out asap: no warning, no second chance, immediate expulsion plain and simple. Bad enough to have to endure the auditorium's heat, humidity and lack of air movement without these idiots. Probably the same people, of any race, that feel compelled to share their LOUD thump thump or trashy lyric rap music with the rest of us. We have an ordnance prohibiting this decibel extreme music but it's not enforced.
May 28, 2010 at 7:54 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
methusla (anonymous) says...
Mr. Brown,
I also would like to commend and thank you for your letter/comment. However, the really sad thing about these, " Certain " groups of people is that they do not only carry on like this at " Special, supposed to be " Respectful to others and Courteous, public occassions, but also carry on like this at home and in their neighborhoods and in public places, businesses, etc., with the same disregard for courtesy and respect for others . And I as a longtime citizen and resident of Emporia, am sorry that you, your family and children did not receive the respect and courtesy you felt you deserved and should have been afforded, but for a few disrespectful, discourteous, uncouth, so called U.S.or Emporia citizens.
May 28, 2010 at 8:20 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
HenryVIII (anonymous) says...
I think some parents are just jealous that their kids aren't as popular as the ones that got all the applause and attention. Maybe you should have brought more friends and relatives to the ceremony if you wanted your kid to feel popular too.
It's a big deal; the kids deserve a hoot and holler. It shows them (and the whole room) how proud you are.
'enry
May 28, 2010 at 8:29 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
methusla (anonymous) says...
And to those who gripe and bitch about us forum posters, as being negative and hurting Emporia.
Well, all I can say is, all anyone has to do is visit Emporia, as apparently Mr. Brown did to attend a High School graduation and see first hand the negativity, lack of respect/courtesy that exists in Emporia.
Do you so called " progressive " people believe that such a display of lack of respect and courtesy for others at a public function, in businesses/public, also crimes committed by certain people, speaks louder volumes about Emporia than any Gazette Forum comment you persieve as being negative. " A picture is worth a thousand words. " And the picture Mr. Brown and others got, of Emporia, was not a pleasant one and I can guarantee that Mr. Brown was not the only one visiting from outside Emporia, who was attending this public function.
May 28, 2010 at 8:34 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
methusla (anonymous) says...
Akamai, enry,
Your two are the top class of Emporias', boobs and I don' t mean the two round female kind. I mean the " OAFISH " kind.
May 28, 2010 at 8:38 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
TexasGirl (anonymous) says...
I like Steve's idea. Maybe if they have some swift enforcement, they can put a rapid end to this disruptive behavior.
May 28, 2010 at 9:46 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
OutsiderJ (anonymous) says...
I know in some towns they do exactly what Steve Corbin was referring to. In one town you are even subject to a citation for disorderly conduct.
May 28, 2010 at 10:01 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
neighbor (anonymous) says...
I seem to recall that we were told our diplomas would be withheld if; you were under the influence or smelled of alcohol or marijuana(legal to drink beer at 18 back then), if there were any disruptions during the ceremony from the students or from their families in the audience, if you were dressed inappropriately under the gown, if you did a dance on stage or acted out, and if you threw your cap in the air at the end. This was EHS in the early 80's.
I seem to recall several classmates that were nearly naked under their robes, Many were so wasted they could barely stand up. I remember loud cheers and horns being sounded when a few graduates' names were called, the staff stopped the process until the noise waned before calling the next name. There were a couple of students do the Steve Martin happy feet dance after getting handed their diploma books(they withheld the actual diplomas until later). Most of us threw our caps in the air, shot off silly string and let out a roar. The idiot next to me threw her diploma instead of her cap then panicked when she couldn't find it.
EHS was about 90% white, 5% hispanic, 3% black, and 2% Asian back then. Some of you are showing your closet racism. I went to a graduation this spring where there was only one minority student graduating, guess what? The people who were sounding air horns and yelling loudly were white.
May 28, 2010 at 10:43 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
methusla (anonymous) says...
Times change and apparently so has the proper decorum, respect, consideration and courtesy for people and the laws .
And not for the better I might add.
When I graduated, some 50 odd years past. We were expected to show the proper decorum, respect, consideration and courtesy to our fellow classmates and their families etc., until after the ceremony was over/concluded and then the celebration could begin, within reason that is.
The auditorium was so quiet, during the ceremony, except for some whispers, you could have heard a pin drop, until the ceremony was over. And it was announced at the beginning of the ceremony and printed on the programs, that there was to be no clapping, shouting, cheering, whistling of any kind, until after the end of the ceremony. And in those days people respected those wishes and new what proper decorum was.
May 28, 2010 at noon ( permalink | suggest removal )
allintogether (anonymous) says...
I don't think it has anything to do with race. Its all about class and respect. Some people have class, some people don't. Some people understand the two way dynamic of respect and some don't. Those that have no class and can't show respect probably need to show their butts at a high school graduation. It will most likely be the extent of their academic experience. For the graduate and their cheering section.
I agree with Mr. Corbin. Light and dignified at the ceremony, save the ruckus for your party after.
May 28, 2010 at 12:16 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
In today's America it isn't the ones that are apparently being rude and breaking the rules that are the ones actually being rude. The ones who are quietly sitting and doing what they are told and then have the gall to complain about the other ones, they are the real problem. Sound confusing? It kind of does to me too but I'm trying to figure it out. You see, I am a law abiding citizen, a veteran, a simple sort that lives a simple life, I understand the need for rules and laws. I appreciate them. With proper enforcement they protect me and my young family. There are however folks that don't share my appreciation for the law and when I complain about the law breaking suddenly the tables are turned and I'm the bad guy for supporting the laws of this land. I can't say that I fully understand this logic but I am trying to understand it. I don't hold out any hope that I will understand it but I'll try, I guess.
May 28, 2010 at 12:33 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
bloomsbury (SC DIXON) says...
I think some of you are confusing “race” with “culture.” Some years back at a city/County employee Christmas celebration a large group of Latino men came in wearing their big, Stetson hats. It was cold weather and most of the men present wore coats and hats which were hung on readily-available racks at the entry way. The Latino’s removed their coats but those huge hats stayed on through the entire meal and program. At that time the chief of Emporia police was Hispanic and he was present. Several folks lamented the fact they he did not or would not take even a moment to explain to these fellows, in their own language, that in our culture it is rude to wear one’s hat inside, particularly at a social function, let alone at a dining table. We’re just too hung up with political correctness and the fear that someone is going to accuse us of being racist to actually help people from foreign lands ACCLIMATE & ASSIMILATE into our society.
This is not México or Honduras or Vietnam or Korea. It is the American Heartland and if people want to live here and be a part of our society they should be politely yet firmly educated in how to do so. This raises the specter of our former Somali community. Many local people thought that their lot here would have been much happier if their employers had tried a little harder to give them some sort of background concerning how one behaves in a very foreign culture…particularly when you are something of a guest. I personally witnessed several extremely offensive displays by these folks and I remember wondering at they time if they were being insensitive, rude, or if they simply didn’t know any better.
I was taught as a child that when you enter another’s home you follow their rules.
May 28, 2010 at 1:49 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
methusla (anonymous) says...
seriously,
It would appear that you and I are riding the same bus, so to speak.
May 28, 2010 at 1:49 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
HenryVIII (anonymous) says...
bloomsbury,
I don't think it's rude to wear a hat indoors. Whose rule is this? Maybe it is you who needs to change and recognize that your out-dated customs no longer apply. Maybe you were just jealous of how freely those Latino men were living. If they want to wear their hats, let 'em. If you don't like it, well that's your problem. People shouldn't have to change their ways just because someone is offended for no good reason. I like freedom; freedom to wear what I please and say what I want. It seems you don't want people to live "freely" unless it's by your own made-up rules and traditions.
'enry
http://emporia.media.clients.ellingto...
June 1, 2010 at 11:30 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
bloomsbury (SC DIXON) says...
Yes, but then you're uncouth. You probably also think it's fine to pick your nose at the table.
By the way, a blessing was asked and the hats stayed on. But I'm sure you're okay with that, too. Now, be a good whatever you are and go pester someone else, eh?
June 1, 2010 at 1:10 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
HenryVIII (anonymous) says...
bloomsbury,
Yeah, I might be uncouth...in YOUR opinion. Why is it always about what YOU think is right? Picking your nose at the table could cause others to lose their appetite, thus ruining the experience. How does wearing a hat ruin the experience for others?
Oooooo...a "blessing" was asked! That changes everything. LOL! Doesn't the pope wear a hideous hat all the time? I heard God wants us all to wear hats 24/7 or else our soles may escape through the tops of our heads! (or some such nonsense) Religion is such a gas! I'm glad there were no women from the Somali community at your little dinner gathering. I bet you would have forced them to remove their head coverings, eh? Please stop being so intolerant. You have no reason to be opposed to their behavior other than you don't think it's right. Maybe I missed it. Please tell me exactly how those men wearing hats detracted from your enjoyment of the evening. Why is it ok to wear clothes, shoes, or glasses, but not a hat? So confusing!
Not picking your nose falls under the category of common consideration for others. Not wearing a hat during a "blessing" falls under appeasing a fairytale being. I'm not afraid of your farcical god, so I'll leave my cap on.
'enry
June 1, 2010 at 1:31 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
create (anonymous) says...
Try wearing a hat in court sometime and see how far that gets you. Removing your hat indoors is an honorable tradition of courtesy. Unfortunately, the younger generation is no longer using time-honored traditions. They just do as they damn well please. Too bad.
I hope you get a chance to read this. And Henry, knock it off. You're being silly and argumentive.
June 1, 2010 at 2:07 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
I learned to take my hat off when entering a building when I was in a gang. The gang's name was the U.S. Army. Hua!
June 1, 2010 at 2:26 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
HenryVIII (anonymous) says...
create,
Thanks to technology (TV, Internet, etc), the younger generation is afforded a more worldly perspective than you old-timers. The ability to see past nonsensical customs and traditions is a blessing! Why waste time and effort perpetuating senseless traditions that serve no real benefit? It's not that the younger generation just does "as they damn well please", it's that they can see beyond simple gestures and judge a person based on things that really matter. You can't expect gain my respect simply by taking your hat off in my house. That's just silly! I don't care if you wear a hat or not. I'll judge your character on more meaningful things.
As for wearing a hat in court, I'm sure I could get away with it if I wanted. I could always say it was part of my religion and the judge was stepping on my religious freedoms by demanding I remove it. I'll be sure to test that next time I find myself in court!
Did you know that it's rude to wear shoes indoors? Did you know it is rude to show the soles of your feet to others? Did you know it's rude to eat with a certain hand? Did you know it's rude for a woman to show her ankles? All this sounds pretty strange, right? Why are your customs any more logical? The answer is that they aren't. Only YOU think they are. When you look at things from a larger perspective, you'll realize that such social quirks are really quite silly in the grand scheme of things.
All I ask is that you don't judge people based on your own silly made-up rules.
'enry
June 1, 2010 at 2:27 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
HenryVIII (anonymous) says...
FarmRaised,
That's fine, but I'm willing to bet the "younger generation" in Japan are letting go of some of their traditions as well.
Besides, as Americans, don't we take pride in being more tolerant of culture differences than other countries are? Isn't that what America is all about? You people go on and on about how you want all the freedom in the world to do as you please, but then you chastise others when their idea of living freely doesn't jive with your own personal beliefs. The truth is you really only want it when it works in your favor.
I'm not even sure how this debate became about culture... I say if you want complete silence at your kid's graduation, maybe you should put 'em in a private school or something. Maybe a religious or military school that is all about control and not free expression.
'enry
June 1, 2010 at 3:13 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...
FarmRaised,
Or like trying to put socks on a chicken.
Just agree with hank, it'll work out better.
June 1, 2010 at 3:52 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
vankamp (anonymous) says...
Henry
Have you ever sat behind someone in a crowded theatre with a cowboy hat? I asked him politely if he would remove his hat and he told me he didn't speak English (but he was at a movie where all they spoke was English). I should have spoke to the theatre management but was so shocked at his reply that I didn't think of it at the time. Henry, I'm beginning to think you are pulling everyone's leg.
June 1, 2010 at 4:31 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
HenryVIII (anonymous) says...
vankamp,
I would agree with you. Doing something like that in a movie theater ruins the experience for others shouldn't be tolerated. In this case, you paid money for an unobstructed view of the screen. If the man didn't comply with your request, you should have taken it up with management. If he still refused to remove his hat or move to a seat where he wasn't blocking the view of others, the staff could have him removed. This is also why cell phones should be turned off in a theater.
I just don't see how this is the same as wearing a hat at a dinner or during a "blessing".
'enry
June 1, 2010 at 5 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...
NETFLIX!
June 1, 2010 at 9:40 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
sandman (anonymous) says...
henry, see that you are still the "no common sense" person-some things never change!!!! (nor have manners)
June 4, 2010 at 3:12 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )