lifeisgood (anonymous) says...

First, I want to thank you for your service. True Americans are hard to find.
American rights are something we take pride in, but this letter could have been written by a 12 year old! When your rights enfringe on others there has to be a compromise. Painting your house, or not, can reflect on you and your neighbors. No one wants to look at an unpainted or cartoon colored house!! Are you kidding me?? People are not complaining about a bycicle on the porch! They hate the TRASH. Grow up!!

June 17, 2010 at 9:11 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

create (anonymous) says...

You honor yourself and your country by serving it in uniform. Thank you.

That said, I believe you are over-reacting to this clean up situation. Your kid's bicycle on the front porch has nothing to do with this; what color you paint your house has nothing to do with this. If you want to paint your house purple with lime-green polka dots, that's up to you. If your house needs a paint job but is ordinarily in good condition and you don't have a yard sale going on for months at a time or you don't have tons of trash all over your property then YOU ARE OKAY.

Haven't you been reading the articles? They have said this.

But listen up, this problem has EVERYTHING to do houses that are seriously deteriorating with many problems like stairs falling off the house and with windows hanging off and trees growing into the siding.

Please, no one is telling you that you can't park your kid's bike on the porch. But if you are using indoor furniture on your porch and in your yard and you leave it there to mold and rot in the rain, then yes, you have a problem. If your property is in poor condition, you reflect on the rest of the neighborhood and bring down everyone's property values. Yes, what you do, or don't do, does matter in that case.

June 17, 2010 at 10 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

create (anonymous) says...

Let me add one more thing. Would you buy a house in a neighborhood where all the houses are badly deteriorated and in need of general fixups? How about if several houses on that street should be torn down? Don't be selfish, put yourself in other people's places.

June 17, 2010 at 10:03 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

sail (anonymous) says...

R on, glad you got your 30 in,I support you if you wanted to paint lunnytoons on your house. People we dont want to live in " A BRAVE NEW WORLD". If you want to live in a controlled community, by all means set up a homeowner association and put in your controls.But for me ,I dont want other people telling me what kind of Christmas decorations I can display.

June 17, 2010 at 10:20 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

HenryVIII (anonymous) says...

So... you fear breaking the rules of an imaginary being (God), but you don't fear breaking the laws of we the people. You are a dangerous breed, Ronny boy. Although, I suppose it's good to have people like you around when we need soldiers.

No one cares about the color of your house and no one cares about a bike on your porch. If, however, you have 30 rusty bikes on your porch and all the paint fell off your house 20 years ago, then you might have a problem.

If you want to live in town and enjoy our infrastructure, you must follow the rules of the majority. The majority of us don't want to live next to filth which is why we have laws to prevent it. If you don't like it, move to the back-woods where you can do whatever you want. Just don't expect anyone to come visit you.
'enry

June 17, 2010 at 10:43 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

sail (anonymous) says...

HENRY, I take it you are for mob rule??Personal freedom take a backseat?? Were not talking about issues of safe living here.

June 17, 2010 at 10:51 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...

lifeisgood (anonymous) says..."Painting your house, or not, can reflect on you and your neighbors. No one wants to look at an unpainted or cartoon colored house!! "

create (anonymous) says..."If you want to paint your house purple with lime-green polka dots, that's up to you. "

and so on

This is the problem. Some people think that some sort of house color code should exist while others don't think it's that big of deal if you live in a "festive" house. I agree with the latter myself. I would just like some clarification on where we are going with this. If it is just code enforcement I'm all for it. I think the laws should be enforced as I have said in other topics. However with these sorts of things we always have folks that come along and say things like "No one wants to look at an unpainted or cartoon colored house!! " and pretty soon everybody has to live in a beige house because light blue is a little too "cartoony" for some peoples taste.

June 17, 2010 at 11:30 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

tbluma (anonymous) says...

sail
Yes we are talking about safe living.
Example
About a year ago a house on my block had close to 2 feet of water in it. The people that lived there finally moved out but as of today that haouse hasn't been repaired and it's still for rent.
Do you suppose the guy that owns it tells anyone of the condition while trying to rent it? I doubt it.
Junk laying around providing a place for rodents, snakes, mosquito to live and breed.
If that isn't about safe living then I don't want to live next to you ar anyone else that thinks like that.

June 17, 2010 at 11:39 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

HenryVIII (anonymous) says...

sail,
Welcome to a democracy. The people vote and the majority rules.

How do you suggest we, as a civilized society, handle differences of opinion? I don't think you should be allowed to have 30 rusty bikes on your porch year-round. I don't think you should be allowed to have a house next to mine that is about to topple over. You, apparently, think people should be able to do whatever they please whenever and wherever they please.

Are you for anarchy? Where do your rights stop and my rights begin? That's why "we the people" vote to decide such things. It isn't "mob rule"; it's a majority consensus. That's how civilized societies function; by pleasing the majority. Maybe you and all the other "slum lords" should start your own city (far from here) where the likes of you are the majority and see how long that lasts.
'enry

"If you don't like [it], then you can git out!" -Skeeter from South Park

June 17, 2010 at 11:44 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

sail (anonymous) says...

HENRY, you have expressed your virews on religion and other topics of intrest.Im sure people agree that some of your views are not in the majority...... SGT. Williams spent 30 years with an oath to protect your minority views. Interesting

June 17, 2010 at 12:18 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

HenryVIII (anonymous) says...

sail,
Sure, I may have some "controversial" (some might think, anyway) opinions on things like religion, but the majority agrees that freedom of speech and freedom of religion are good things. These rights don't harm anyone. If Ronny Williams was given the right to have a dilapidated property in town, it could endanger others and/or make life difficult for others. Do you really think he should have this right? What if I wrote a letter to the editor arguing I should have the right to sacrifice children in the name of my religion? Do you think I should have that right? The answer is no because it harms others. There is a line where contradicting freedoms meet and Ronny Williams clearly doesn't see it.

I don't endanger or create hardships for others with my opinions. It's just my opinion and it isn't hurting anyone, so that's a non-issue. You are allowed to have the opinion that having a trashy piece of property in a densely populated area doesn't harm anyone, but the fact is that we have rules against it here in E-Town, so it's the action (not opinion) that shouldn't be tolerated.

While Ronny spent 30 years protecting my freedoms, I (and others like me) have spent our years making this country great by improving technology, education, infrastructure, medicine, and services. You see? Without people like Ron, I wouldn't be as free and safe to improve our country and without people like me, folks like Ron would still be trying to protect us with bows and arrows. You need both kinds of people to make a nation great. I respect all men and women who serve our country, but I also think folks like me deserve the same respect in return. When Ron started his little rant with, "I’ve served this great country for 30 years." I thought, "So? Is that supposed to make his opinion have more weight than mine?" If you really think that, you need to get off your high-horse.
'enry

June 17, 2010 at 1:42 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

enry,

Your are a great one to talk about being on a " High-Horse " . There is no Horse, Higher than the one you sit on.

June 17, 2010 at 2:05 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

HenryVIII (anonymous) says...

methusla,
Thanks! I like to think Ol' Betsy is of good stock. Don't ask me how many "hands" high she is though...

FarmRaised,
You wish. In your wildest dreams I'm sure it is, but only in your dreams, friend. Plus, you know what I meant, so stop being so picky.

'enry

June 17, 2010 at 2:38 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

HenryVIII says, " I (and others like me) have spent our years making this country great by improving technology, education, infrastructure, medicine, and services. "
As I stated earlier, absolutely no ones horse is higher than the one HenryVIII has placed himself upon and HenryVIII is a legend in his own small mind. You see ole Henry does not have the sand to actually defend and protect the lives of the likes of himself by putting on a uniform and putting his life on the line to protect the likes of him and others like him and yet he does have the sand to suggest that if it were not for people like him the Ron Williams of the world would not have the ability to protect the likes of people like HenryVIII and others like him . Now in my opinion that makes for a pretty " HIGH HORSE ", indeed .
And SGT. WILLIAMS, I would also like to thank you for defending and protecting all of our " FREEDOMS " and " RIGHTS " .

June 17, 2010 at 5:10 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

HenryVIII (anonymous) says...

methusla,
I only want equal respect. That's all. I see myself no better than Ol' Ronald Willams, but I don't think his opinion should matter more simply because he chose a different profession.
I do have the sand (y cojones tambien) to defend our nation, but there hasn't been a need for me to yet. When folks like Sgt. Williams are doing such a fine job at it, my skill set is simply best applied elsewhere.
Once again, you accuse me of being a coward for not serving. Do you see how uppity that sounds? You don't even know me! Perhaps your horse isn't the only thing that is "high" right now! :)

Indeed, thank you for your service, Sgt. Williams. Without people like you I wouldn't be able to enjoy the freedoms I do now. Unfortunately, your article makes no sense and your military service ain't gonna help that fact one bit. Military service does not give you the right to endanger your neighbors. Sorry.
'enry

June 17, 2010 at 5:58 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

sail (anonymous) says...

Henry, I have enjoyed the posts.Thanks

June 17, 2010 at 6:51 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

HenryVIII,

I beg to disagree. It is my opinion, based on your rehtoric, that you believe that you deserve more respect, more freedom and more rights than any other American citizen or at least any citizen of Emporia. Of course, this is just my opinion, based on your rehtoric.

June 17, 2010 at 7:15 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

Ruego a estar en desacuerdo, HenryVIII, tienes bolas no en todos. Pero lo que tienes es una gran cantidad de Hypocracy.
Usted ve Henry, también hablo español, así como algunos otros idiomas.

June 17, 2010 at 7:27 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

create (anonymous) says...

Right on, Henry. I enjoyed your argument this evening. You make a great deal of sense, and I particularly liked what you said about how civilians who have not served have nonetheless the same rights because they have contributed to society by developing technology etc.to make it a great nation. Nicely put. We don't always agree, but this time I salute you.

June 17, 2010 at 7:43 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

I challenge HenryVIII or anyone to point out in Ron Williams comment or rant as Henry put it, exactly where he makes reference to the fact that his serving his country for 30 years, entitled him to any more respect or rights than Henry VIII or anyone. And yet ole HenryVIII implies in his " RANT ", that he, ole HenryVIII deserves/demands the same respect as Ron Williams or anyone and yet no one has said that he, HenryVIII did not or does net get the same respect as everyone else.
HenryVIII is very good at twisting things and playing the " If it weren' t for me, everyone would be living in the stone age " or would not survive or " I am 100% right, 100% of the time " game.

June 17, 2010 at 11:11 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

create (anonymous) says...

It was implied. That's how I see it. Why would anyone offer that information as a qualification otherwise?

June 18, 2010 at 6:52 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

ToxicPink (anonymous) says...

It was his opening statement even. I'm with create, you don't offer up that information, in the first sentence even, if you don't want it to commend something from your audience.

June 18, 2010 at 7:09 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

ToxicPink (anonymous) says...

Oh and I totally read this letter as an angry rant. I don't think the tone and words used would really lead it to be anything other than that.

Don't get me wrong though, I enjoy myself a good rant from time to time.

June 18, 2010 at 7:11 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

Sorry, create, ToxicPink, I just don' t see Ron Williams opening sentence as being angry or anything was implied by it or possibly the only thing that was implied by it, was that he was proud of his 30 years service to the country and its citizens.
Possibly the rest of his comment may have some angry undertones to it. But, who doesn' t get a little upset when someone wants to dictate/demand/force everyone to live their lives as they believe is the absolutely correct/right way to live.
HenryVIII, create, methusla, ToxicPink, Steve Corbin just about everyone on this forum has made pointed, angry comments.
Having the " Freedom to choose/choice " is, or used to be, the great thing about of being a citizen of America. But, that America, the land of the " FREE " is, as I have said before, quickly becomming " extinct " and is becomming America, " The land of the SUBJUCATED ", no longer the land of the " FREE " .
( Now there is a sentence with angry undertones.)
It would seem that the deep recession the whole Country is experiencing and the loss/lack of jobs and lack of funds to spend on maintaining a certain dictated/demanded way of living, means ablolutely nothing . Especially to those who may be fortunate enough to have the extra funds to spend on maintaining there good standing in the community and the do as I say or demand crowd.
This whole " Force for change " thing is based entirely on " Money " and not being an " inclusive " community, because in order to be " inclusive " in this community of Emporia, one must meet the demands of the " exclusive " crowd and not that of being a human being, but being a certain type of human being, who is willing to, without resistance, be a " Subjucated " human being .
This whole fiasco has begun to turn neighbor against neighbor, friend against friend, brother against brother. And that can do more harm than good.
You know I tire of this whole bash, point your finger, accuse , humiliate, degrade your neighbor/friend thread .

June 18, 2010 at 8:47 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

OutsiderJ (anonymous) says...

Are you paranoid or just delusional?
Its about cleaning up property that needs it.
Or maybe everyone is out to get you.

June 18, 2010 at 10:18 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

OutsiderJ (anonymous) says...

Brother against brother...really?
That statement is a little lugubrious don't you think?

June 18, 2010 at 10:21 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...

You never hear about a couple of people sitting in their office developing technology or whatever sharing a meal one minute talking about their girl back home leaving them because they've been away too long and then the next minute returning fire at the people who just exploded your buddies head all over your face and having a hard time aiming because his gray matter is dripping in your eyes. You just don't hear these things happening in air conditioned offices. It is in fact the kind of thing that happens to my brothers and sisters in uniform(I include police and fire in that group). This is why veterans and people in uniform deserve more respect than your average Joe, they earn it. They literally put their lives on the line for others. I know we are supposed to distribute everything equally, irregardless of who actually earns what, but I refuse REFUSE to give the same amount of respect to some one who hasn't served in uniform than I do to those who have.

June 18, 2010 at 10:22 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

create (anonymous) says...

"and the do as I say or demand crowd."

See? Here's the problem, methusla. You're disagreeing with others who have opinions. You're stating your opiinion, granted, and that is good. However, then you go and say " and the do as I say or demand crowd."

Why do you do that? You are railing against a group that doesn't even exist. You have a tendency to use put downs, just as you made fun of my use of the word vociferous yesterday.

As far as freedom is concerned, your freedoms and rights end where mine begin. You don't have the freedom to clutter up your yard with all manner of junk that attracts rats and mosquitoes and mold. It lowers my property values, and if you doubt that is true, go ask any property appraiser to find out if they take neighborhood blight into consideration when valuing your property. Wanna bet they have a set of standards?

And would you please stop putting every other word in quotes. It makes your post difficult to read because it interrupts the flow of ideas. Thank you.

June 18, 2010 at 10:27 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

it's a beautiful day in the neighborhood !

Well, in some neighborhoods, I guess.

Both sides of this debate have been presented and I can see a little good in both sides.

Most Emporia'ns take pride in their property and keep them up.
Some don't.
The idea of someone else telling you what to do with your private property is/was abhorrent to me.

A few "rotten apples" can spoil the whole bucket.

That said, I hope we can calm down long enough to re-read each others posts and try to understand where they are coming from.

And create, I also tried to be funny about the use of "vociferous" but I guess it didn't come across that way. Your using the word did make me pull up F & W to make sure the word meant what I thought it did.

seriously folks,
Well said, but we are probably in the minority in our feelings there.

I would bet that if we all set down together and talked face to face we would all agree on more things than we disagree on.
Let's try to remember that?

June 18, 2010 at 10:56 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

koalemos (anonymous) says...

What did akamai say to get buldosed and tilled under? Was his yard that messy?

June 18, 2010 at 11:17 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

Oh and I had to look up

"lugubrious" also.

Learn something new every day!

June 18, 2010 at 11:17 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

Oh, Steve, there is no such thing as private property or anything else thought of as private anymore, only public domain . Your life and everything you have or do, already is or in the process of becomming public domain .
There are also those of us who are to vociferous and need to remain silent or bleet softly in acceptance, like sheep .
I will no longer comment in a vociferous manner. Rather I will just softly bleet with a weak baaaaaaaa of obsequiousness.

June 18, 2010 at 11:22 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

Methusla,

I knew that 1.(obsequiousness.)

Never had a chance to use it though.

June 18, 2010 at 11:52 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

neighbor (anonymous) says...

Sometimes a well kept lawn and home is owned occupied by the definition of an evil human being. Neat and tidy doesn't mean good neighbors all the time, but as a rule it's a good start. Sometimes a run down wreck of a home with a yard full of junk is owned by a person with a heart of gold that you'd never suspect would live in such conditions. There are alot of folks who cannot afford the upkeep on their homes because of financial or physical reasons. Then there are folks who will always live like Fred Sanford because that's the way they want to live, are under the impression that nobody can or will do anything about it. These people are easily identified by other lifestyle patterns, poor or no credit, multiple jobs, multiple addresses and moves in their life time, vehicle repossessions, civil judgements against them past and pending for failure to pay, trashed up yards, etc.

Sometimes things are not as they seem on the outside. Sometimes a duck is a duck and is easily identified by his waddle and his habit of quacking all the time.

June 18, 2010 at 12:12 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

ToxicPink (anonymous) says...

Not everyone who puts on a uniform is a good person, bad people in positions of authority and/or trusted with a gun deserve the respect you're so willing to hand to them on a silver platter.

Respect is earned, regardless of who you are, and what you do. Just serving is not a 100% promise of the upmost respect that a person can give to another. Its who they are when they are in that uniform and who they are outside that uniform. Blind respect is sad. I'm sorry.

And what about those that lay their lives down on a daily basis that do not wear a "uniform". Social workers in less an ideal cities get shot as soon as they walk into a house to do a welfare check because parents are so worried this means for sure their kids are getting taken away, what about the workers on the rig that blew up?

Those are average Joes that die in their line of work. I show them the same amount of respect because they're also human beings.

ON A MORE RELATED NOTE

I don't see why being told your lawn needs mowed and your junk cars that are rusting and rotting is getting everyone's panties in a bunch.

Like, last year the boyfriend and I were driving by the neighborhood with the Christmas lights, and he told me that everyone who moves in has to sign an agreement that they will put up all those lights. I thought that this was inappropriate because what about those that do not celebrate Christmas? They are being forced out of a possible dream house. He just disagreed with me and we dropped it because well, we're spending a beautfiul winter night cruising for lights.

So, my point, which I almost lost, is that we've already been dictated how one's house has to look. It should be less offensive that as a community we ask that people do not leave their houses is shambles. Which is what I got out of all of this. And if you read back on one of these articles I confessed to not knowing a thing about owning a home even though I am now in one.

So if I get this point, and I of all people here being the youngest, least knowledgable and with the fewest life experiences have grasped what the goal was, why is everyone else so upset?

Having a dangerous property that risks others not being allowed should be common sense.

Also, to my knowledge I am completely calm as I wrote all of that and also not trolling. So don't EmporiaRage on me if anyone bothers to respond to my wall of text.

June 18, 2010 at 3:16 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

sail (anonymous) says...

ooh Henry, one last thought, a democracy is where 2 wolves and 1 lamb vote on whats for dinner.Glad we live in a republic.

June 18, 2010 at 3:20 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...

Awesome post sail.

http://www.wimp.com/thegovernment/

June 18, 2010 at 3:41 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

scarlett01_98 (anonymous) says...

Just wondering.... if ron's yard needs work, then why haven't his neighbors offered to help him out? it's not that hard and a little kindness goes a long way. in other towns it happens all the time...

June 19, 2010 at 6:24 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

HenryVIII (anonymous) says...

sail,
Your definition is basically correct. My question is why was the lamb hanging-out with the wolves anyway? If the lamb knew it was the minority and had no chance of its opinions being heard, why wouldn't it move away and join a group with similar interests? (other sheep, perhaps)
Everyone has an equal vote, but if those who share your opinion are outnumbered, you should consider moving. You can't please everyone all the time, so if you don't want lamb chops for dinner, you should move someplace where they don't eat lamb. It's that easy! If you don't like lamb chops or a clean neighborhood, you can just git out!
'enry

June 21, 2010 at 9:48 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

enry,

Let me see, by your latest analogy , " but if those who share your opinion are outnumbered, you should consider moving. " and " You can't please everyone all the time " . In other words, you are saying, if someone happens to have a different opinion, view of life that does not coincide with those that view themselves as " all knowing " or the so called " majority ", then those or that person with the different opinion, view of life should move or be cast out as unworthy .
You see enry, the problem is, there are those who have the concept that they are the only ones who deserve to be pleased all of the time and those who oppose this particular doctrine, are low lifes, who know nothing, need to be told what to do and how to live ( by living as they are told to live by others ) and if they do not abide by the wishes of those who believe they deserve to be pleased, they should either, shut up, change their life style and be submissive or give up their rights, all they have worked for and just plain get out/move .
Yes, that is definately the present day concept of the American Way.
Isn' t that being a bit hypocrital, prejudiced, discriminatory or bigoted ?

June 21, 2010 at 12:16 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

HenryVIII (anonymous) says...

methusla,
No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that if you're not in the majority then either quit griping and deal with it or move somewhere else where you can get your way.
No, I don't think I deserve to be pleased all the time. (though my wife may beg to differ!) My point is that you don't see me breaking laws simply because I don't agree with them. That's what these folks are doing; they ignore the city codes and their only excuse is that they don't agree with it. What I'm saying is obey the laws of Emporia or get out! Sure, I complain about the Sunday Sales ban, but you don't see me breaking any laws! There is a difference!
The majority in Emporia approves of the city codes to keep property safe and attractive. You can't ignore a law because you don't agree! Deal with it or get out. That's my point.

How else are laws supposed to work? The majority votes and we all must follow. If we didn't have to follow the laws that the majority agree on, what's the point? Everyone would be doing their own thing and we'd all suffer.
'enry

June 21, 2010 at 1:29 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...

HenryVIII (anonymous) spews ....." I'm saying that if you're not in the majority then either quit griping and deal with it or move somewhere else where you can get your way."

Didn't the majority vote against Sunday liquor sales here in Emporia? I think I've read some comments about it.

The R. Dog

June 21, 2010 at 2:36 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

enry,

So, what you are actually saying is, the so called majority is right and correct 100% of the time regardless of the circumstances and situations of the rest of civilization or whether the laws that the so called majority voted for and were enacted is equitable to and for everyone.
And enry, I do not believe you, when you say you have never broken any laws you don' t agree with.

June 21, 2010 at 2:51 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

And as far as attractiveness or beauty goes.
"Beauty in things exists merely in the mind which contemplates them."

June 21, 2010 at 2:56 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

HenryVIII (anonymous) says...

seriouslyfolks (anaymous) hurls... "Duh, I don't read so good."
Please read my post again. I already addressed how my opposition to the Sunday Sales ban is different from Ronnie Williams refusing to clean-up his property.
I grudgingly obey the Sunday Sales ban. Ron, on the other hand, doesn't obey the city codes and instead spends his time griping about how he doesn't agree with them. I suggest Ron obey the law until it is overturned.

Ron, I don't think the issue is with the color of your house or the bikes on your porch. The issue is with the numerous vehicles and trailers parked on the grass. Maybe those have all been moved...I don't know. I haven't been over your way in awhile.

methusla,
The majority does what they think is correct. Being the majority, we can assume it's what "most" view as correct. Again, you can't please everyone at all times, so you might as well go with the majority thinks is best. No, what the majority votes for isn't always what is best for everyone, but who would you rather please? 75% of all citizens or the 2% who want to be lazy and live in filth? Creating laws that please 75% is a much better way to run a society.
I have not intentionally broken a law I disagreed with. I may have gone over the speed limit a time or two, but I actually agree with speed limit laws, so you're still wrong. I can say I haven't broken a law simply out of spite.

Have a good day!
'enry

June 21, 2010 at 3:01 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

scarlett01_98 (anonymous) says...

ok, this is getting lively. instead of complaining about a neighbor, why not offer to help him? i've found that after living here for a while, emporia, and lyon county, is an island unto itself. people in this area are snobbish and rude to outsiders, if you weren't born here. in most cities and large towns, neighbors look out for each other. they mow others lawns if it needs to be done not hurl insults at each other. this is the total opposite around here. i live in an area where most of the houses are in very bad shape. i don't whine, i just put up shrubs. the individuals who live in horrible houses now complain about my shrubs being 5 ft tall. go figure.... if i didn't have to live here i wouldn't.

June 21, 2010 at 4:51 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

scarlett01_98 (anonymous) says...

oh and yes i have spent hundreds of hours doing yard work for other people, in neighborhoods over many years. always free of charge...

June 21, 2010 at 4:59 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

HenryVIII (anonymous) says...

scarlett01_98,
So you're the "give a person a fish" type, eh? Me, I'm a "teach a person to fish" type. People who'll never learn to catch their own fish are just extra mouths to feed. I'm tired of "helping" others by catching all their fish.
These people need to learn to take care of their own property. Here in Emporia; we believe in the survival of the fittest. If you can't make it on your own, we'll push you out. This approach ensures we have the only highest quality citizens. If you can't roll with the elite Emporians and keep your property up to code, you should probably move somewhere with lower standards.

Madness? THIS IS EMPORIA!
'enry

June 21, 2010 at 5:28 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

MrCmonkeeDo (anonymous) says...

"Here in Emporia; we believe in the survival of the fittest. If you can't make it on your own, we'll push you out. This approach ensures we have the only highest quality citizens. If you can't roll with the elite Emporians and keep your property up to code, you should probably move somewhere with lower standards."

Sometimes stupid people say things that just make MrC's blood boil. MrCmonkeeDo is aware we forum posters are not allowed to attack each other. Certainly there is wisdom in that rule; and ordinarily MrC would never attack the stupid. It is after all, stupid to think one can reason with stupidity.

However, the above comment is STUPID with a capital STUPID.

In America we don't practice "survival of the fittest." We don't believe "survival of the fittest" can lead to any kind of civil order. Henry, don't you see where that kind of thinking leads? Are you completely whacked?

In America we do not push on those who are unable, for WHATEVER reason, to defend or fend for themselves. We don't do it to our elderly, our babies or our mentally challenged.

Until now MrC wouldn' a believed ya if ya told him that's how Emporians treat their non-elite. Hate to break the news to you elite folks, but you picked a hard row to hoe when you picked this town to turn into your own private little Shangri-Las.

In America we all get the chance to buy a piece of property (in theory anyway.) Property owners can then turn their properties into their very own and often unique versions of Shangri-La (if they want to.) But that's where it stops. You are not allowed to turn MrC's property into your unique version of Shangri-La, or His neighbors. It ain't happenin'. No way; no how. For yours is the taste of bourgeois tepidness and this monkeeDo would spew thee out.

Count yourself lucky we common, grungy an' ornery folks don't live by the law of "survival of the fittest."

"Highest quality citizens," indeed.

More like obsolete little piss-ants.

June 21, 2010 at 7:07 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

StrongCityCitizen (anonymous) says...

This letter was written by an idiot.

June 21, 2010 at 10:55 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

HenryVIII (anonymous) says...

I tend to agree, StrongCityCitizen.
'enry

June 21, 2010 at 11:47 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

HenryVIII

One last question/comment and then I am done .
What exactly would you call the trillions in foreign aid. that the U.S. government has given to foreign countries and needy people in the U.S., if not giving a " fish / charity, then what should you/we call it ?
You see, HenryVIII, your attitude and comments such as that of, June 21, 2010 at 5:28 p.m., is why Emporia will never be an inclusive community, only an exclusive community, because no one will want to move to, shop in or visit, because of having to meet the certain qualifications/standards of the few who believe themselves to be the all knowing so called perfect society or so called majority. There was another person, not so long ago, who also had the same attitude of, you must meet certain laws, life style and physical standards, in order to live in what he percieved to be the perfect " World Order ", a.ka. " The 1000 Year Reich " and he not only pushed people out, but tried to completely anhilate whole peoples who did not " conform " to his rule/wishes/demands or set ideas or standards.
To all of you who have no understanding or compassion I say this, " what goes around comes around " and oneday it may be your turn to be singled out, pointed to and told to conform to certain standards of the so called majority or " Get Out " .
Thats all, I am done .

June 22, 2010 at 9:22 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

HenryVIII (anonymous) says...

methusla,
Come on, friend. You must realize I intentionally went "over the top" on that post. Please don't take my crazy talk seriously. I was only trying to bring some levity to the forum in classic 'enry style. I don't want to push anyone out no matter how dilapidated their property is. Did no one get my "300" reference? (good movie)

I do think the government has gotten into a bad habit of giving out "fish" to needy countries. Unfortunately, as a world power, the USA feels obligated to do such things. If we weren't so worried about how the rest of the world views us we'd probably focus more on taking care of ourselves, but then the world would hate us more for being selfish. The world hates us now for sticking our nose in their business, so it's a no-win situation. Would we be better off if we brought all our soldiers home, closed-up our borders, and refused to provide aid to others? Who knows. Some see it as our obligation to help where we can, but others see it as a burden to maintain such a reputation.

Thanks for the question/comment. As always, I find your perspective on things very intriguing.
'enry

June 22, 2010 at 9:58 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

christym123 (anonymous) says...

Maybe there should be a clarification of what, exactly, is in the code. Seems to me a lot of people are just assuming, and not researching. You should probably know what exactly you are upset about before you run your mouth. Just sayin'.

June 22, 2010 at 1:23 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )