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Military censorship is wrong

Wednesday, December 22, 2010

The United States has spent trillions of dollars, and more than 5,000 Americans have died fighting wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

For more than 10 years, military men and women have been risking their lives combating oppressive dictators and political systems in an effort to liberate citizens and bring U.S.-style freedoms to their countries.

Last week, the Wall Street Journal published a story on how the United States Air Force was blocking military personnel from reading websites like The New York Times as well as 25 other national publications. Now we ask — who is fighting for the freedoms of our military men and women?

The Air Force is saying that the websites have been blocked because they have been posting information from WikiLeaks, which has published more than 250,000 classified diplomatic cables on the Internet. WikiLeaks let news organizations like the New York Times get an early look at the documents before they were publicly released.

Although the leaked information may have been classified, the military should not fault the reporting of news organizations. The military has the ability to penalize the people within the military organizations for the security breach.

Freedom of the press is a cornerstone of U.S. democracy, and banning people from viewing news is unacceptable.

As long as the information is floating in cyberspace, the military should be encouraging personnel to read it so they can know what information the enemies have along with what top military people are saying.

Censorship by the U.S. government is a tragedy — especially when the people who are being impacted by the censorship are risking their lives to bring freedoms to others.

Chris Walker

Editor & Publisher

Comments

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

right on Chris !

December 22, 2010 at 4:48 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

REWBA (anonymous) says...

They can't stop military personnel from accessing the web. Soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines can purchase their own private internet access. It is just if you want to use your employer's computer and network, you have to obey your employers rules.

What if the gazette employees sat around the office surfing porn and blogging all day? How long would that last before a new rule was passed?...Or, is there already a rule for that? Censorship? Common business practice? You decide.

At least we can still reach the pages at emporiagazette.com from any government computer. :-)

December 22, 2010 at 5:33 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

marko (anonymous) says...

u mean they don't?

December 22, 2010 at 6:02 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

nmse_s (Shannon Standard) says...

You can't view these sites using government owned and operated computers, which to me makes perfect sense. My place of employment doesn't allow us to access certain type of websites so we are not to get "distracted" from our work. As a Veteran I have no problem with what the Air Force has done.

December 22, 2010 at 6:25 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

empgazfan (anonymous) says...

Wikileaks aside, the author is an idiot if he believes his own claptrap expressed in the second paragraph. The US is not combating oppressive and corrupt dictators; it is supporting and abetting them. But even if the second paragraph were true, it begs the question, Why? Why are we spending trillions of dollars and over 5,000 American lives combating oppressive dictators? When we kill one, they just get replaced by an equally oppressive and corrupt new one. America is full of stupidity.

December 22, 2010 at 7:37 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

ksnewsie (anonymous) says...

Remember, the military is not blocking all news sites because they are "distracting" service personnel. It is blocking a few news sites whose legitimate (i.e. not illegal) content it disagreed with. That IS censorship.

December 22, 2010 at 7:57 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

scarlett01_98 (anonymous) says...

MERRY CHRISTMAS empgazfan......

December 22, 2010 at 8:40 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

reddog (K. B. Thomas Jr.) says...

Go to Alex Jones Wikileaks: A dangerous U.S. Government Con Job........Is this a scam to police the internet?

December 22, 2010 at 9:31 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

reddog (K. B. Thomas Jr.) says...

Youtube Ron Paul calls Wikileaks Heros.

December 22, 2010 at 9:36 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

reddog (K. B. Thomas Jr.) says...

Youtube Ron Paul Wikileaks on the Federal Reserve.

December 22, 2010 at 9:50 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

reddog (K. B. Thomas Jr.) says...

Youtube Gerald Celente on Wikileaks "Cablegate": They want transparent Govt.-Let's have it.

December 22, 2010 at 10:10 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

reddog (K. B. Thomas Jr.) says...

Chris send this article and blogs to the New York Times!!!

December 22, 2010 at 10:14 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

reddog (K. B. Thomas Jr.) says...

I'am sorry, I forgot Max Keiser, go to New Wikileaks Docementary-Max Keiser........This is a good one.

December 22, 2010 at 10:24 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

REWBA (anonymous) says...

reddog, watch this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV9mo_...

December 22, 2010 at 10:46 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

justthefacts (anonymous) says...

That last video is Fake. I suspect the irony will be lost on the URL reference service.

December 22, 2010 at 11:18 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

koalemos (anonymous) says...

justthefacts, I think that was the point of REWBA's posting that site for reddog. I could be wrong though.

December 22, 2010 at 11:20 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

goodoleboy (anonymous) says...

The military is an employer, employers have free reign to censor their networks however they please. If Mr. Walker is so against this kind of censorship then why does he advocate which posts can be commented on, which ones get shut down and who gets deleted? In a sense it is the same issue, control over a network.

Nowhere in your article does it say anything about them surfing the web on their own means and being restricted on what they can view, THAT is censorship.

December 22, 2010 at 11:35 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

slimbolen99 (anonymous) says...

Mr. Walker confuses the government restricting access to it's employees with restricting access to it's citizens. What he says is a misrepresentation of the facts: the US Military desires it's soldiers (employees) to stay forcused on its' mission; destroy the enemy, and not meddle in the politics.

Forward, the Light Brigade!'
Was there a man dismay'd?
Not tho' the soldiers knew
Some one had blunder'd:
Theirs not to make reply,
Theirs not to reason why,
Theirs but to do & die,
Into the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.

'Nough said.

December 22, 2010 at 11:52 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

lovemylittletown (anonymous) says...

I am currently in the military and I don't have a problem with the blocking of certain sites from our computers at all. It is a distraction. People do not need to be going out and looking at this classified information no matter where you work. You can all sit here and spout how it is your right to know but you know what?? Sometimes things are classified for a reason! National security...anyone ever hear of that. If you want to know what's REALLY going on in the war over there get off your duffs and sign up like I did. The military is always looking for a few good volunteers! Until recently the military had Facebook, UTube, yahoo mail etc, blocked and I never heard anyone writing about our feedoms to use those sites while at work!

December 23, 2010 at 7:16 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

create (anonymous) says...

Right on, lovemylittletown!!

Many schools subscribe to blocking technology so students can focus on legitimate research not half the crap in the universe.

Let's say the opposite were true and the military allowed wikileaks to be viewed by the military. Let's say the troops became enraged at what they saw and mounted a mutiny in certain or all quarters. How much discipline would go by the wayside? Who's in charge? How many would die as a result?

This is not child's play.

December 23, 2010 at 7:48 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

Good for you, lovemylittletown. You are so very correct for there was a reason the information was CLASSIFIED!!! For just "general"-you are at work to WORK and not search the internet, playing. Chris, you really need to rethink this. Also, even being "classified" believe we here in the United States have had problems with people selling information that we, as a nation, do NOT want out there. Call it "classified" or sensorship, there is a GOOD reason.

December 23, 2010 at 8:01 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

create (anonymous) says...

Besides, these guys are busy with many,many things to do, not just pointing weapons.

Here, everyone, check this out. It's a new facebook site allowed by the Air Force where we can all see the various valuable activities the military is doing and send a comment or two for the holidays and send messages about the various stories. It's a great site. They've challenged everyone in the U.S. to comment.

http://www.facebook.com/#!/Boots.in.t...

December 23, 2010 at 8:21 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

Anyone looked at some of those classified documents? Out of the thousands of pages I would bet maybe 1 or 2 actually have information that should be classified. people in our government are classified happy.

Censorship has been around for quite some time,Chris. Remember the ban/ censor on pictures of flag draped coffins coming into Dover air force base?

Those pictures should have been in every paper and on every television news show every day. Maybe we wouldn't be so complacent on these wars if we had an everyday reminder of the "cost"?

Maybe if there were any real news organizations worth a darn, we would have reporters in the fields dodging the bullets and bombs along side our troops? If this had happened, maybe we wouldn't be in our tenth year over in that hell hole?
But it sure is nice knowing what evening gown Paris was wearing at the grammy's
just a thought.

December 23, 2010 at 8:29 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

I miss Walter Cronkite.

December 23, 2010 at 8:34 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

reddog (K. B. Thomas Jr.) says...

Walter Cronkite was like an uncle, but look what I found out about uncle. Please go to Walter Cronkite said what.........It appears he was one of the new world order guys.

December 23, 2010 at 10:30 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

reality (anonymous) says...

Steve,
I certainly agree with what you are saying about what has become newsworthy, however it is also important to remember that newspapers report things that help sell newspapers. At minimum I think they should only share the blame. Society being completely on edge about whether or not Lindsay Lohan had to many drinks is the majority of the problem. I guess what I am saying is that society and the media both make me equally sick.

December 23, 2010 at 10:37 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

REWBA (anonymous) says...

If a government employee uploads a classified document onto a government computer that is not cleared for classified information, it really doesn't matter how unimportant that classified document seems. The computer is going to be hauled off and destroyed along with the unfortunate government employee who contaminated the nipernet with info off the sipernet. Accidentally or intentionally, it doesn't matter. That employee will end up loosing access to all government computers until the whole mess is cleared up. He/she may never regain access and loose his/her job.

December 23, 2010 at 11:13 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

wirewatt (Ken Bazil) says...

They need to find the Obama employee whom gave the information to Wilileaks and prosecute the people involved and quit worrying about what now is out on the web. The employer has every right to determine what the employees watch while at work. The gazette is the worst when it comes to controlling what we see on the site. People in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks.

December 23, 2010 at 12:44 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

reddog (K. B. Thomas Jr.) says...

Go to SHOULD WE TRUST WIKILEAKS 100%?

December 23, 2010 at 12:56 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

sail (anonymous) says...

DONT stop beating the drum for freedom Cris.W/O a free press we will end up with free speach zones and censorship of all thought that is counter to those in control.OHH we have free speach zones now and we are seeing restrictions getting set up to restrict the web now, and the fairness doctrine, and on and on.

December 23, 2010 at 2:07 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

create, just checked this for the first time today-busy hands with two of my children and their families coming in, but enjoyed your post. I had been sent the site "Boots in the Sand" and so enjoyed, super site. Please have a very Merry Christmas-I still have some more baking to get done before all get here. Yes, busy hands are happy hands and this gal is truly trying. Now, the trick is not to gain a bunch of weight, Oh Me!!!!

December 24, 2010 at 12:37 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

create (anonymous) says...

Merry Christmas to you too, sandman. Glad you enjoyed the site. I baked yesterday, fudge this morning, and wrapping a couple of toys. Kids coming this afternoon. Having traditional Portuguese meal we always have for Christmas Eve, Vinho dalhos, or pork butt marinated in wine and vinegar and lots of garlic then slow roasted.

December 24, 2010 at 8:34 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

i LOVE leftovers.

December 24, 2010 at 9:19 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Wichitawings (anonymous) says...

Steve did you ever serve in the military???

December 24, 2010 at 10:24 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Chevy_Guy (anonymous) says...

wirewatt,

You're right about the Gazette being controlling. A friend of mine, Les Nuessen, Police Chief of Emporia from 1975-1980, passed a few days ago from a fall at his job. I go to read his obituary, and what do I see?

"For the complete obituary see the Gazette print edition"

Does the Gazette really feel the deceased only deserve to have paying subscribers view their obituaries? What about friends and family from out of state who want to read the obituary? Should they have to buy a subscription just to see it? I can understand not publishing entire stories for free, but the obituaries are one part of the paper where "For the complete obituary see the Gazette print edition" should not exist. I hope the Gazette learns to show some respect.

RIP Les, You will be greatly missed.

December 24, 2010 at 10:47 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Chevy_Guy (anonymous) says...

By Chuck Samples/KVOE News

Former Emporia Police Chief Les Nuessen has died.

Nuessen was 68 when he died Tuesday night.

Nuessen was helping a customer at Sutherlands when he stood up, got dizzy and fell backward. Nuessen hit his head on the concrete floor.

Born in Olpe, Nuessen worked in the Lyon County Sheriff's Office before become an Emporia Police officer in 1967. He became police chief in 1975, serving in that role until 1980.

Nuessen became known later for his involvement in the Sertoma club. Fellow club member Bob Hush says Nuessen was involved in every aspect of the club.

Besides his involvement in the Sertoma club, Nuessen was also involved in the Ball-McColm Post No. 5, American Legion; Knights of Columbus; the Fraternal Order of Chiefs of Police and the Kansas Peace Officers Association.

A Rosary will be recited at Saint Joseph Catholic Church in Olpe at 7 p.m. Sunday with the family receiving friends afterward. Mass of Christian Burial will be at Saint Joseph at 11 a.m. Monday. Father Anthony Williams of the church will celebrate the service. Interment will be in the Saint Joseph Cemetery.

December 24, 2010 at 10:48 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

Wichitawings,

navy, 1970-74

December 24, 2010 at 11:15 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

To the regular posters on here:

Biscuitboy is in a hospital in Topeka with some problems. Keep him in mind with your thoughts and prayers this Christmas.

December 24, 2010 at 11:28 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

create (anonymous) says...

Thanks for letting us know, Steve.

May Biscuit get better soon and be back at his keyboard in no time.

December 24, 2010 at 1:33 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

scarlett01_98 (anonymous) says...

ohhh
godspeed les, you are already missed. my prayers to his family....
feel better bb, : )

December 24, 2010 at 4:04 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

Steve, Thank you so much for letting us know concerning Biscuit. Yes, our prayers will be with him. Hope someone is taking care of his dogs for him. May biscuit be back very quickly for he is missed.

December 25, 2010 at 2:03 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

neighbor (anonymous) says...

Get better BB.

December 25, 2010 at 8:17 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

sail (anonymous) says...

BB, look forward to your thoughts, hurry up and start typing.

December 25, 2010 at 11:20 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

http://www.facebook.com/Boots.in.the....

For the past 10 years, 1% of Americans have sacrificed . For the most part, the other 99% have continued their normal existense.

It is long past time we all share in this war. Only by making all Americans share the cost of these wars, will we be able to end them.

Raise our taxes to pay for them.

Institute a national draft, with no exceptions to man them.

Make every congressman and senator serve in them, (without special considerations) for 1 year.

Until the American public as a whole suffers the effects of continued warfare our country will remain a shell of what was once a bright and shining light to the world.

Write your representatives today and ask, no demand, they bring our troops home now.

Until then, we must support our troops in any and all ways we can.

December 26, 2010 at 9:47 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

According to "This Week" today,

Four more Americans died in Afghanistan this week.

December 26, 2010 at 9:56 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

Steve,
I so agree with your post above-until we ALL realize the total cost can we ALL be fully aware of the commitment.

Please Dear Lord, don't have let those died in vain as so many in the war before.
These are our children, perhaps not by "blood" but still very much "ours"!!!!!

How is biscuit? Please keep us posted, the thoughts and prayers have been with him, as so many away from home this Christmas.

December 26, 2010 at 4:10 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

romano1784 (anonymous) says...

Steve I tend to agree with most of your statements however the post December 26, 2010 at 9:47 a.m I disagree with strongly. Yes be proud of your military, join if thats your thing. Now think of the guy you ether do or used to work with that couldn't make a cup of black coffee without screwing it up. Do you want him with grenades and a rifle at your back? I sure as hell dont. I didnt serve, and was denied entrance to the military due to a injury that occured when i was 12. Im a little touchy about this topic since it seems to be floating around lately. If you served in the military, thank you. But you are no better than the guy that works the counter at McDonald's. The military fights for our freedoms, but every working citizen in the country PAYS for those freedoms in tax dollars. You cannot protect a country without a good military. You have no country with a work force. I mean no offense to any current military, or any veteran.
This is mostly a vent due to a few arrogant folk that think that just because they served, the world should bow to their every whim. I support any and all that have the will, drive, passion, and are well able to serve. But i thank every single tax payer that makes it possible for our military to exist. We have a symbiotic relationship here. One cannot exist without the other.

December 27, 2010 at 3:05 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

romano1784 (anonymous) says...

I left something out that makes the last post seem offensive for that you all have my appologies. I meant to put that not everyone is built to serve. Every war we've had where the draft was enforced is living proof of that. Just because you have more numbers, doesnt mean you can use those numbers to you're advantage. However there is a type of job for everyone. From software designers to manufacturing workers, to restaraunt employees, to military personnel. Sad fact is that we need people to work all forms of employement to keep this country on its toes. And as most people think that everyone should serve in the military at some point in their life, I think every should work fast food at some point. If for no other reason it will teach you humility and see for yourself how it feels to be degraded and ordered by some punk who thinks his McNuggets are more important than civility. lol.

America for Americans!

December 27, 2010 at 3:11 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

romano1784,
We are closer in our thinking than you realize. Your statement;

"This is mostly a vent due to a few arrogant folk that think that just because they served, the world should bow to their every whim."

I don't share that view as I have never met any veteran or service member like that. Well, maybe 1 or 2, but that can be said for people in all walks of life. Most older vets I know joined up because of a sense of duty to country, some younger ones also, (since 911). Some joined because it was the only living available.

While I liked your suggestion about everyone working in a fast food place, (that is where I started and you're right about serving a-holes), the difference is the a-hole in Afghanistan is trying to kill you.

The point of my post was that our troops would NOT be involved in this "Peace Keeping Mission" if congress were doing the job they swore to do. If it is an honorable fight and necessary to the national security of the United States then Congress should declare war.

Once war is declared Congress would need to raise taxes to pay for it and Americans would have to sacrifice to help in the war effort.

If the congress had to send their sons and daughters to fight and die.

If Americans had to ration things like gas, metal, sugar, meat, leather, if they had to plant victory gardens for their vegetables, if we had to suffer like our parents and grandparents in world war two did maybe, just maybe we would not be so complacent about this current "action".

As one who served in the "Police Action" in southeast Asia and came home to see how the troops were treated I said never again should our men and women be subjected to fighting and dying in an undeclared war. That is all that has happened since.

December 27, 2010 at 7:47 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

i feel you can support our troops even if you don't agree with the mission they are charged with. That is about it in a nutshell.

December 27, 2010 at 7:53 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

romano1784, am sorry about you not being able to enter the service, sounds like there is alot of resentment. I agree with Steve, feel most that serve do so FOR their country and pride in it. I do agree that if all served perhaps we would be very picky as to who represents us in congress. Also that those who are representing us in uniform are sent by that same congress to do a job and we need to allow them to do that job and be totally behind them. Our world at times can be a very frightening place.

December 27, 2010 at 8:50 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

romano1784 (anonymous) says...

I appologize for my previous posts. I was in an angry state of mind. No sandman i hold no resentment toward the military or my not passing the screening to join. Such is life. There are those to whom the military would make a great home. And I do agree that if we all had joined at some point that we would be much pickier towards the elections and who we put in office. However, the world isnt perfect so we have WalGreens..... lol.
I have the utmost respect for everyone in uniform. From the soldiers on the front lines to the paper pushers in the pentagon. Everyone has a part to play, and not to sound arrogant but we have one of the greatest militaries the world has ever seen. I hope it continues and i hope people can see past the jaded lifestyle that seems to be overtaking our news, web pages, and general conversations.

America for Americans!

December 28, 2010 at 2:27 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

create (anonymous) says...

Great post, Steve, especially about complacency. Yes, you're so right about how our parents and grandparents had to give up so much during WW II to share in the war effort. My parents told me about all the sacrifices, even down to meat and milk. Victory Gardens were a must. In fact, meat shortages led to popularity of Spam in Hawaii, even today. Carnation and Pet evaporated milk were high on the list too. My father traded a tire for a case of Carnation once because I needed milk.

People now can't even stand it when gasoline goes up one penny, how would they have survived WW II?

December 28, 2010 at 9:32 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

create,
I so agree with the first part of your post-the last sentence I disagree-Yes, one penny but who is that one penny going too? Those in the USA? Believe it has been proven that we have enough of our own oil to last us for many years and in that period we SHOULD be studing alternative fuels that can be CREATED here in our own country.

We so need to start checking labels and if it isn't made in the USA don't buy it!!!!
The only way we can give our people work is by producing articles ourselves!!!!

We used to have RCA and Zenith for TV's, today it is Sony etc, foreign made.
Quit outsourcing companies and make items here!!!!! Until we as a nation wise-up to this fact we will continue to go down that slope. We have the knowledge but aren't using it, Why? because we outsouce EVERYTHING!!!! Look at the industry just Emporia has lost. Modine-they hired approx. 500 people at one time, gone. Cheap is not always good-jobs are GOOD!!!! I realize the economy has alot to do with it, but maybe we just need to wakeup and realize that we don't need EVERYTHING and that "American Made" is good. Wal-Mart used to advertise "American Made"-not anymore, most of their merchandise is foreign made!!!!

December 28, 2010 at 11:34 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

scarlett01_98 (anonymous) says...

not trying to get off topic.
does anyone know how bb is doing?
is he home yet?

December 28, 2010 at 8:17 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

scarlett01_98

Right now, bb isn't doing very well. He had been diagnosed with lung cancer, and now he is fighting pneumonia. I am not sure and don't take this for gospel, but I think they can't do anything about the cancer until he recovers from the pneumonia. Let's all keep him in our thoughts and prayers.

I am going to see about getting a copy of the latest cartoon from the gazette and giving it to his brother to take up to him.

December 28, 2010 at 8:42 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

mslater (Matt Slater) says...

Forget about the New York Times, let's ban PT belts...

Matt

It's a great day in Afghanistan!

December 28, 2010 at 11:25 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

scarlett01_98 (anonymous) says...

hi steve,
thanks for the update. i knew thru his posts that he has cancer and was prone to pneumonia. i don't know if the docs can treat for both at the same time. i do know if they keep you in the hospital this long, then something bad is going on. i miss his posts... please pass that on to him. :)
hi matt, are you stationed with my son in afg? he is a firefighter over there...

December 29, 2010 at 10:43 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

Matt Slater,

Hope you are enjoying your vacation. You haven't done any deep sea fishing have you?

seriously, stay safe and keep away from the local women, I hear they are quite scary.

December 29, 2010 at 10:50 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

scarlett01_98 (anonymous) says...

steve,
i don't think matt can leave the base..... i know erik can't.

December 29, 2010 at 11:26 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

mslater (Matt Slater) says...

I must have p'd someone off then, because not only do I GET to leave, they MAKE me leave, almost everyday. At least they let me come back, though ;-)

Matt

It's a great day in Eslamabad!

December 31, 2010 at 10:59 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

scarlett01_98 (anonymous) says...

hi matt.
ummm quit p'ing your CO off! that way you can stay inside the base : )
i guess the only thing i can say to you is what i say to erik. keep your head down and stay safe. erik is a firefighter, i think he is in balad, but not sure.

December 31, 2010 at 11:31 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

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