Emporian Vivian Mundy made a first appearance in Lyon County District Court Tuesday afternoon on multiple felony charges alleging she defrauded Medicaid of more than $158,000 while doing business under the name of Cognitive Care Connection.
The charges were filed Tuesday in Lyon County District Court in an amended complaint by Kansas Assistant Attorney General Jabari B. Wamble, of the AG’s Medicaid Fraud and Abuse Division.
Cognitive Care Connection, owned and operated by Mundy, is an unincorporated business that operates at 1101 Commercial St., according to court records.
Mundy, also known as Vivian Steavenson-Mundy and Vivian Mundy-Steavenson, is accused of six counts of making a false claim to the Medicaid program, one count of obstruction of a Medicaid fraud investigation, and one count of concealing records.
The crimes involving fraud allegedly took place between April and December 2004. The obstruction allegedly occurred between July 5, 2004, and Dec. 26, 2007, and the count of concealing records reportedly occurred on or about Oct. 2, 2008.
The charges allege that Mundy submitted claims to Medicaid for services that were not provided or were duplicated.
The first count alleges she knowingly billed for, and received, $75,546 for services that were not provided. The complaint states that 568 times, Mundy billed “back-to-back” hours that did not allow or account for driving time to the appointments.
The second count accuses her of “knowingly, and with intent to defraud, engage in a pattern of making ... false or fraudulent claims for payment for services” for traumatic brain injury therapy that overlapped with other therapy providers. The complaint says Medicaid paid $62,656.14 for services that were not provided.
Count 3 accuses Mundy of making claims, with intent to defraud, for traumatic brain injury therapy services for which there is no documentation to support that the services were provided. Medicaid reportedly paid $28,625.92 in those instances.
Count 4 alleges Medicaid paid Mundy $17,963.86 for her claims for providing therapy “during times where it is documented that she was ‘shopping’ at various businesses and therefore could not be providing services.
Another $20,144.58 was paid by Medicaid, according to Count5, for brain injury therapy sessions that could not have been provided because she reportedly was providing therapy to other clients at those same times.
The sixth count accuses Mundy of defrauding Medicaid by filing duplicate claims totalling $4,767.44.
Mundy also is charged with obstructing the investigation by falsifying records, including altering times, dates, and adding signatures to progress notes provided in response to a Medicaid fraud investigation.
She also is charged with concealing documents that had been subpoenaed. The documents “were necessary to disclose fully the nature of services for which claims were submitted and payments received,” the complaint stated.
In an affidavit filed by Attorney General’s Special Agent Mark Montague, law enforcement executed a search warrant on Oct. 2, 2008, at Cognitive Care Connection and at Mundy’s home and secured additional records that had not been submitted through the subpoena.
Montague stated in the affidavit that documents seized in the search warrants revealed additional conflicts of records and billing times that had not been discovered in the initial investigation.
“Relying on billing information submitted from EDS and analyzed, it was determined that 62.58 percent of total medicaid funds paid to Mundy should not have been paid,” the affidavit stated.
The case was brought to the attorney general’s attention by an employee in the Department of Social and Rehabilitation Services electronic data systems surveillance and utilization review subsystem.
madpoet (anonymous) says...
Thousands of people do this every year. And they wonder why Medicare is going broke.
May 14, 2009 at 1:37 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
It's OK all government spending is good! What she needs is more government money to spend so she will feel better about herself.
1..........2.............3..................GO SOCIALISM! (the crowd goes wild!)
May 14, 2009 at 1:45 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
goodoleboy (anonymous) says...
How did we go from a dishonest thief to socialism? Especially when this took place during 2004 when good ol' W and the republicans had the white house and congress? Were we socialists then? Care to eat your words?
May 14, 2009 at 2:10 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
rcakmon (anonymous) says...
Goodoleboy...it's just a routine with many gazette readers. Read a column and think of anything you can to take a shot at the current administration. It's kind of like a game. But there are no winners...just whiners!
May 14, 2009 at 5:17 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
medicaid=socialism
I don't care who was,is, or will be president. I mentioned nothing about any president or political party. That was an assumption on your part. I get a lot of flack if I even suggest that the government should be more conservative with their spending so I decided to get on the tax and spend bandwagon and I get flack for that too. I guy can't win for losin'.
May 14, 2009 at 5:28 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
MerryCarol (anonymous) says...
This is incredibly sad. Isn't this the lady who lost a daughter last year, then recently sponsored a dance in her daughter's memory?
I hope these charges are merely bookkeeping errors.
May 14, 2009 at 5:48 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
biscuitboy (anonymous) says...
rcakmon.....
......you hit the nail one hundred percent exactly on the head.
It makes no diference what is said....it's an invitation to open up about any thing as long as it is critical of the President.
I think a lot of it is just sore losers.
May 14, 2009 at 7:33 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
The only ones mentioning the president are goodoleboy, rcakmon, and biscuitboy unless there are posts that I can't view on my computer screen. Anyone care to enlighten me on these posts that talk about the current president? I must be missing something.
May 14, 2009 at 7:44 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
biscuitboy (anonymous) says...
The only one mentioning socialism on this thread is seriously folks...unless there or post I can't see on my screen. Anyone care to enlighten me on these post about socialism. I must be missing something.
May 14, 2009 at 8:07 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...
Hey come on. This seems like a clear case of theft.
Quack, Quack.
Ther are always those who would work the system and not care about the citizen. Shame on them.
May 14, 2009 at 8:30 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
oh4theluvof (anonymous) says...
Where is all this in the burglary scope? I think I might be against this.
And, seriously, you make a good point. Were it not for a socialized program, this case might not even exist.
May 14, 2009 at 8:38 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...
Democrat, Rpublican, Liberal, Conservative, this person stole from the government and should be hung with a new rope.As long as you people argue these two points our government will never improve. It ISTIME for a third party to take control of the election process
May 14, 2009 at 8:42 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
"And, seriously, you make a good point."
Those are some words you don't hear too often around these parts.LOL
When I was in Germany I was talking to a German national and he was going on and on about the "Turks" coming to their country taking advantage of all their government programs and I asked why he wasn't angry with the government for allowing it. Governments should be smart enough to know that if they have programs that are to make peoples lives easier there are going to be people that take advantage of them and the government needs to make sure that doesn't happen. Help the people that need it and not the ones that don't. I will never cease to be amazed by the amount of people that argue with me about this, it seems so logical to me but apparently I am wrong.
May 14, 2009 at 8:52 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...
In these times, if a person or persons is found guilty of defrauding the government, then they should also be found guilty of treason and the appropriate judgment should be rendered. This wasn't a bookeeping error or an entry error on government records. This seems to be out and out theft, and if is, Ms. Mundy should never see the light of day . Innocent until proven guilty, but>>>>>>>>>>>>
May 14, 2009 at 9:03 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
"It IS TIME for a third party to take control of the election process"
I second, third, and, fourth that! That's what I've been sayin' but people got their two party system blinders on and assume if you sound a little conservative you must fit into this narrow definition and if you sound liberal you must be this exact way. I am conservative but as Pauly Shore said "I'm a unique weasel." If I say something against socialism it does not automaticly translate to a bash on President Obama. Perhaps people think that because when they slam anything conservative it is(to them) a slam on Bush. Man, my mind does not work in such a simple way, I'm sorry.I do not like socialism(in case you missed that) but for a society to prosper I believe some is needed. I see it more as a seasoning not the main coarse. Why is that so wrong? I think rather than a case of sore losers we have a bunch of sore winners that attacked for so long now that they are on top they expect to get a little of what they gave.
May 14, 2009 at 9:07 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...
The really bad part of this story is that so many more people/ companies have done the same thing and not been charged with it. People, we need to start paying attention to stuff like this, and demanding accountability.
May 14, 2009 at 9:08 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
gen50 (anonymous) says...
HOW MANY HAVE WORKED WITH PEOPLE THAT HAVE A DISABILITY??? IT TAKES LOTS OF HOURS ON THE CLOCK AND OFF THE CLOCK BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW TIME OR DAYS. ALL THEY KNOW IS SOMEONE IS THERE TO HELP THEM WHEN THEY NEED IT. YES I KNOW THERE ALOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT USE OTHERS FOR THE MONEY, BUT THERE ALOT MORE OF US OUT THERE CARE MORE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT THEY WORK FOR. AND IF THERE WAS 10 OF THEM THEN THEY WOULD NOT NEED TO ASK FOR HELP FROM OTHERS. IT IS HARD TO FIND SOMEONE WHO CARES ENOUGH TO WORK OFF THE CLOCK AND SPEND THERE OWN MONEY TO HELP OTHERS AND NOT HAVE ANYTHING FOR THEM SELF. DATES AND TIMES SHOULD NOT MATTER AS MUCH AS CARING FOR THE PEOPLE WHO NEED THE HELP AND CAN NOT FIND THE HELP THAT IS NEEDED. ME MYSELF HAVE BEEN ON BOTH SIDES OF THE FENCE. ASKING FOR HELP AND GIVING HELP EVEN WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. HELP THE PEOPLE WHO NEED HELP UNTIL THEY DON'T NEED HELP ANYMORE, HOW YOU ASK, YOU TEACH THEM AND WORK WITH THEM UNTIL THEY CAN DO IT ON THERE OWN. THAT EVEN PEOPLE ON WELFARE ALSO, TEACH THEM!!! SHOW THEM!!! SHOW THEM YOU CARE!!!
May 15, 2009 at 12:06 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
biscuitboy (anonymous) says...
First.....I did not say one thing in justification of what this person allegedly did.....and IF she is found guilty I hope she is punished to the full extent of the law.
Second....politics enter this thread with socialism. I certainly believe seriouslyfolks that you know full well the republican party has been pushing this garbage about Obama and the dems being SOCIALIST for a long time now.....remember all the tea party signs......remember THE DEMOCRAT SOCIALIST PARTY.....
Then when you start getting flak about being partiasan you say "But NO....I'm an independent". Maybe you wouldn't be accussed of being a party line republican so often if you didn't always sound like one. The only time you don't sound that way is when it becomes convienent for you not to.
Third....I have repeately made the assertion that all this bickering and fighting between the two parties is destroying our nation just as suredly as socialism, terrorist, greedy bankers, et al. And that assertion is met by either silence or accuasations of liberal bellyaching.....and rbow...it takes cooperation from both sides to end an argument.
May 15, 2009 at 4:20 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
cowboy (anonymous) says...
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seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
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May 14, 2009 at 6:17 p.m. ( permalink )
methusla (anonymous) says...
One word that affects everyone sooner or later, " GREED " !
This one word defines and describes a phenominon, way of life and thinking that has been running rampant among all political parties, peoples, corporations, etc., in the world and yes this country for decades !
No one is immune from " GREED " or its affects !
May 15, 2009 at 7:58 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
methusla
You are 100% correct.
bisquitboy
"Medicaid program" that is a quote from the article, unless I wrote the article socialism was already a part of this thread by it being a part of the article.
"I have repeately made the assertion that all this bickering and fighting between the two parties is destroying our nation just as suredly as socialism, terrorist, greedy bankers, et al." In this statement you seem to imply that socialism is destroying our country along with those other things(which i completely agree with) but every time socialism is brought up you defend it vigorously. Perhaps you feel that you have to defend socialism because you see it as an attack on President Obama and you feel you need to defend him. I can understand that. Why is President Obama synonymous with socialism though? Is it a vast rightwing conspiracy like the Monica Lewinsky thing? Or maybe there is some truth to it. if President Obama is a socialist that's fine it's a free country but don't assume because I am against socialism that it is because of him. I have been antisocialism for about 19 years. I never even heard of Obama till last year. I'm not like the left and blame everything on one man.
May 15, 2009 at 8:36 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Joe_Strummer (anonymous) says...
gen50......The key you're looking for is labeled "Caps Lock."
Might also want to consider decaf.
May 15, 2009 at 8:47 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
open_eyes (anonymous) says...
If it's only the GOP pushing this "garbage" about socialism, then Hugo Chavez must be a Republican......
http://forums.superiorpics.com/ubbthr...
http://community.adn.com/play/node/13...
Oh....and Putin is a Republican, too....
http://www.infowars.com/putin-warns-u...
And the China Post wrote an article last fall stating that America is becoming increasingly socialist (while still under Bush) while China is now unabashedly capitalist. Darn Republican Chinese..... :)
http://www.chinapost.com.tw/editorial...
The moral of the story is, for those who think the Republican party is waning, dream on - they have alot more converts than you think. Chavez, Putin, China...... they all agree with the "garbage" the GOP is putting out...... LOLOLOL
May 15, 2009 at 9:21 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
madlady (anonymous) says...
I have a family member who is a TBI and was a former client of Congnitive Care Connection during the later time period she is charged with. Miss Vivian is not innocent in these charges! In the period we dealt with her, she proved herself to be very unethical (and yes, she did go shopping and bill for time she wasn't with my family member and also for when she took my family member with her with no benefit of therapy). However, I do feel for her in the regard that she lost a child during this period but that has nothing to do with the fact that she felt she needed to defraud her clients and Medicare. I will be watching this case as it progresses. She does need to be prosecuted where warranted.
May 15, 2009 at 9:43 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
gen50 (anonymous) says...
CONGNITIVE CARE CONNECTION HAS GOOD PEOPLE WORKING FOR THEM AND THEY HAVE HELPED ALOT OF PEOPLE THOUGH ALOT. THESE POEPLE WITH TBI NEED HELP. AND THESE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW TIME AND DAYS, SOME ARE HAPPY WHEN YOU GET THERE AND SOME GET MAD WHEN YOU LEAVE. THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY ARE THE WAY THEY ARE. AND IF THE FAMILY OF THESE TBI PEOPLE WOULD TAKE THE TIME TO GET TO KNOW THEM AGAIN IT WOULD BE SO MUCH BETTER, BUT SOME I MEAN SOME HAVE TURNED THERE BACK ON THEM, WHEN THEY NEED THEM THE MOST. TEACHING THE PEOPLE WITH TBI IS A DAY BY DAY THING. IT IS NOT THE SAME EVERYDAY, BUT WHO HAS A GOOD DAY EVERYDAY??? SO DO WE HAVE PEOPLE TURN THERE BACKS ON US, NO WHY??? IT IS JUST A BAD DAY!! THAT IS NOT THE CASE WITH TBI, EVERY DAY IS A CHALLENGE. THEY LIVE IN THE PAST, SOME OF THEM DEEP IN THE PAST.
MOST OF THE PEOPLE WHO FOR CONGNITIVE CARE CONNECTION, THAT ENCLUDES MISS VIVIAN,,SHE HAS SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH MOST OF THESE PEOPLE BUT SHE IS ONLY ONE PERSON. THAT IS WHY SHE HAS VERY GOOD PEOPLE WORKING FOR CONGNITIVE CARE CONNECTION.AGAIN I HAVE BEEN ON BOH SIDE OF THE FANCE.I CAN GO ON AND ON ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO ON THE TBI WAIVER, ALL THEY WANT TO LIVE LIKE YOU AND I DO EVERY DAY. SOMEONE NEEDS TO CARE FOR THEM AND IF FAMILY WON'T THEN IT IS UP TO WHO???
May 15, 2009 at 12:19 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
biscuitboy (anonymous) says...
Of course Medicare is a program based on socialist principals.....and its' not the only one. So is Social Security. unemployment insurance, federal support of education (which I am sure some of you are enjoying the benefits of right now), myriad programs to benefit businesses, and actual business and agricultural subsidies.....So what.
None of this happened yesterday,,,,nor even during the Bush presidency seriouslyfolks.....But has been a growing part of our federal government for decades under the leadership of both parties. So Why are we now acting like this is some totally new development that we have never experienced before.
I am new to these boards, so if any of you can link me to your great expessions of concern about this made during the previous administration...I will be happy to peruse them.....but until I see such links I will remain inclined to believe its just so much party line B.S..
May 15, 2009 at 12:37 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
open_eyes (anonymous) says...
on 12-19-2008, while Bush was still in office, seriouslyfolks said: "goodoleboy.......Your statement about the Republicans going completely opposite of their ideals is 110% true."
Now that doesn't sound like party line BS by seriouslyfolks to me..........
May 15, 2009 at 1:54 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
biscuitboy (anonymous) says...
.open_eyes.......Thank you for the input.....and I do beleve seriously folks is generally true to his ideals.....but occassionally......like most all of us here...lets the spirit of the discussion get the best of him. I know I let it get the best of me much more often than I would like.
But most of the programs I listed earlier on this thread...and many others.....have been around for years.....many of them for as far back as this old man can remember. And yes...there have always been those lone voices in the wilderness that have decried many of them.....I personally remember warnings that Social Security could not sustain itself for ever going back to when I was a young man.
But neither party has ever been willing to make a real effort to change any of this unless they could do so and lay the blame on the other guys. So I guess my problem is why all the hoopdala now. I guess its the timing that makes it appear suspect to me.....as if now that things are really going south this is a good time to blame it all on the party now in power. And I don't believe that anybody of good will can honestly say there is none of that in what is now happening.
May 15, 2009 at 3:25 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
open_eyes (anonymous) says...
You're absolutely right, biscuitboy - any social program we currently have (and I believe many of them are good ones that we should keep) - have at least an element of socialism to them. And even though we've complained about SS going broke for decades, it does get a little more attention the closer we get to the point that it is no longer solvent. And yes, we've tried to revamp SS nearly every administration (remember Bush in 2003) - and failed.
I think alot of people (at least conservatives) are just stunned by all this spending and our deficit. We thought our Pres was going to go thru the budget "line by line" and cut wherever he could, instead of pushing massive spending bills through without even letting Congress get a chance to read thru it. And we're amused no end by the people who screamed about Bush's deficit in all caps with lots of exclamation points now being "concerned" at best.......
And yes, alot of spending & deficit started under Bush, as GW himself even admits that he turned away from fiscal conservative principles. I just never envisioned it being carried quite to the current scale. Regardless of who started something or who continued it, sooner or later everything reaches a tipping point. Some of us feel that is fast approaching, and we're apparently flogging the horse as hard as we can down the home stretch. Instead of pulling on the reins with a few "Whoa there, boy"s.......
May 15, 2009 at 3:43 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
biscuitboy (anonymous) says...
open_eyes.....After going through a lot of sparring.....lots of thrust and jabs......it seems we often come to a point where we almost agree with each other.
We (I believe) are at one of those points right now. I am at least "mildly concerned" with the debt that is being run up at present. This administrations debt.....coupled with last administrations debt......will be an awesome thing to behold.
That's why I feel it is vitally important for our leaders.....all of them.....to get over the blame game and the oneupsmanship so prevelent today
But look at the suspicion and distrust that is such a part of the discussions here. If we can't rise above this how can we expect our parties leaders too. And if they can't rise above it and work together to pull in the reins we may well be doomed.
But as I posted earlier...it takes two sides to end an argument.
May 15, 2009 at 4:46 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
open_eyes (anonymous) says...
And I enjoy, and need, those parries and jabs, to keep my perspective in a "fairer zone" than it would be otherwise, left to my own devices :).
I do agree with you completely, but I will say this: It has been QUITE an onslaught for 8 years now. At least for the last 5. There has been no mercy shown, no respect for the office or the man. And now that the tide has turned, it seems alot of people are crying "foul" but they are merely seeing their own reflection in the mirror. So, yeah, there's some frustration and anger coming out that I can understand, and I've got some of it too. But you're absolutely right, it gets us nowhere.
But how are we, as the people, to move beyond it when our leaders are still incapable of it? Has anyone been watching this Pelosi fiasco? Today now she's backtracking, she respects the CIA, its BUSH that she was after. And, she admits, the whole time it was her priority to get the Democratic party back in power. Is that why she was elected? Really? Has she ever done ANYTHING that wasn't calculated to be partisan to the nth degree? Just what is the average IQ of California voters that continually re-elect her?
As a new part-owner of the state of California (due to their debt & bailouts) - I feel I have a say in this, so here's my first move:
Ms Pelosi - you're fired.
May 15, 2009 at 6:36 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
methusla (anonymous) says...
The way to fix the problem is, TERM LIMITS, TERM LIMITS, TERM LIMITS !
May 15, 2009 at 6:57 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
biscuitboy (anonymous) says...
OK......I can look aside...shuffle my feet.....and begrudgingly admit that the tone and tenor of much of the criticism against the last administration went overboard.....and sometimes way overboard. History might even show that some of it was undeserved.....witness the changes President Obama has gone through regarding Gitmo, enhanced interogation, and much of the war on terror since taking office.
But I m equally sure that at least some of what's going on now is no more than the old adage about paybacks being hell.
The important thing here however is when does it end.....or does it end. I believe if it doesn't end we as a country face a bigger threat there than from any external terrorist.
May 15, 2009 at 7:18 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
really05 (anonymous) says...
Cowboy you are so right! I know the story and the newpaper had some facts wrong and Vivian has not been convicted yet. So everyone needs to quit pointing fingers. She did a lot of good things with all her clients, she spent several hours a day with them that she did not even turn hours in for. TBI paients are very difficult to work with, they don't remember what goes on from one day to the next and sometimes not even 5 mins. I think it is just what cowboy said " it is just bookeeping errors"
May 15, 2009 at 7:27 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
really05 (anonymous) says...
Do any one of you on here know where she lives?? That right there will show you that she was not taking money from the state. If she was don't you think she would have more material things and have a nicer home?
May 15, 2009 at 7:35 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
open_eyes (anonymous) says...
Sorry if we've hijacked the thread in to politics, everyone, but biscuitboy, I agree with all of your last post 100%. And especially..... our biggest threat may end up being from within, if it is not already.
As for this story, I don't know the particulars, but per the last post, all I can say is.... even good people can do bad things. If she is guilty, then there is no excuse. You can't say it was ok to steal from your neighbor just because you did a lot of good work for a charity in the past. Bookeeping errors....... if there are as many as the affidavit states, (charging when you were shopping, etc...) then there is at the very least some gross incompetence in involved in this...... jmo....
May 15, 2009 at 7:37 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
really05 (anonymous) says...
But unless we were with her when she had her clients with her than we do not know what they were doing at the store. Maybe she was working on socialization with the client and that is why they were at the store. The client would not know why they were at the store because like I said with a TBI they do not have memory. And yes I agree that if they find her guilty then she does need to be prosecuted, but I don't feel that she is guilty, There are ways to explain everything the article says.
May 15, 2009 at 7:43 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
create (anonymous) says...
Apparently, were it not for someone with a keen eye in SRS data processing, this case may not have come to the DA's attention. This makes a good case for the importance of having an electronic data systems surveillance system.
I can only imagine how much this fraud has been going on all over the place before there ever was a surveillance system.
I hope that the SRS data processing employee is rewarded in some way for being diligent.
Yes, methusla is correct. This was nothing but pure greed, and judging from all the different names she used, this woman was serious about not getting caught.
Sorry this woman's daughter died, but that has nothing to do with her robbing the people of Kansas, and that's exactly what she did. She just didn't think anyone would catch her. Surprise!
May 15, 2009 at 7:45 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
really05 (anonymous) says...
create, I think you have it all wrong. She just does not live like she is taking all she can. I don't feel that she has ripped off the state of kansas. We will just have to watch the case. I think she will NOT get charged. I think the attorney gen is taking the words of several TBI clients and I know that there testimony will not stand in court. If she really did take all this money than where is it... Not in her home, or car or personal items, she has nothing. And if anyone here has ever lost a child it would be very difficult to get papers to someone when that is the last thing on your mind. If she is convicted I will eat my words.
May 15, 2009 at 7:57 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
open_eyes (anonymous) says...
Maybe I'll use a bunch of different names next time I do my taxes, and pass it all off as "bookeeping errors". Just because a person doesn't live high off the hog at the moment does not mean they are innocent, maybe she planned on retiring to a deserted island in 10 years and didn't want to draw attention in the meantime.
I only know 2 things: 1) Innocent until proven guilty (unless you are Bush, then it is the opposite - LOL), so I will try and withhold further judgement until more facts of the case come out.
2) And where there's smoke, there's usually fire.
May 15, 2009 at 8:03 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
really05 (anonymous) says...
I know that when you have a TBI client they have many staff workers. Some might have 5 or 6. Vivian did theropy that is only one staff that goes to the TBI clients home. There are PCA's and TLS staff also so it is not uncommon for her to have worked with so many names. I have worked with TBI clients before so I know one person can have several staff members. Some of you must not know how this Grant works.
May 15, 2009 at 8:08 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
lsteaven (anonymous) says...
FIRST LET ME SAY THAT YOU SHOULD NEVER JUDGE OTHERS BEFORE YOU TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT YOURSELF. TAKE THE BEAM FROM YOUR OWN EYE THEN YOU CAN SEE CLEARLY TO REMOVE THE SPLINTER FROM YOUR BROTHERS EYE.. I GREW UP WITH VIVIAN AND I KNOW SHE IS SOMETIMES ANNOYING AND HARD ON PEOPLE, BUT A THIEF SHE IS NOT NOR IS SHE RUNNING SOME KIND OF FRAUD SCAM. SHE HAS NEVER BEEN GOOD AT BOOK KEEPING AND SHE HAS HER PAPERS IN A MESS. SO WHAT SHE IS GUILTY OF IS BEING A BIT IGNORANT OF HER NEEDING TO KEEP HER RECORDS UP TO DATE. I CAN GARENTEE YOU THAT SHE DID EVERY CASE AS THE STATE ALLOWED HER TO DO AND SHE WORKED HARD MANY DAYS LONG INTO THE NIGHT. BREANNA WAS HER LIFE AND SHE GOT INTO THIS BUSINESS BECAUSE OF HER DAUGHTER. SHE KNEW ALL THE PROBLEMS THE HANDICAPPED DEAL WITH DAILY SHE LIVED IT THROUGH HER DAUGHTERS EYES. SO PLEASE IF YOU WISH TO COMMENT THIS IS A FREE COUNTRY GO AHEAD BUT LIKE I SAID JUDGE NOT LEST YOU BE JUDGED. WHAT SIN IS IN YOUR CLOSET IS IT BIGGER THEN JUST NOT BEING ORGANIZED?
May 15, 2009 at 9:10 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
open_eyes (anonymous) says...
Please quit yelling. It's called a Caps Lock Key. Learn to turn it off.
I truly hope that she IS innocent, and that this is all just a mistake.
But, a person who has that much problem with organization should not be in a position where they are responsible for alot of bookeeping where alot of $$ are involved. Even if it was unintended bookeeping mistakes of this magnitude cannot be allowed to continue. I have said I will withhold further judgement until I see more facts on the case so I will.
May 15, 2009 at 9:22 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
methusla (anonymous) says...
Let me say this as a final comment.
There is a world of difference between " bad bookkeeping " and being accused of concealing " subpoenaed " documents !
Of couse everyone is presumed innocent, until proven guilty, but it does not look good !
May 15, 2009 at 9:35 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
lsteaven (anonymous) says...
You are right there is a world of differance and that is why Vivian will be aquited of all charges. If you have to have your whole family help you look through the books to find papers subpoenaed by the DA. You are not concealling your just that bad of a book keeper. So are most musicians that is why they go bankrupt even though they made millions. I could go on, but I hope you understand as I do that she was working long hours and at the same time her daughter was going through allot of problems physically. I hope none of you have to raise a child with spinabifada with complications. Breanna never thought of herself as sick though even to the end of her life. That girl was told by Doctors she would not live long maybe 5 years and she made it to 19 years. Thanks to a loving family and Mother who never gave up. She took that fight for others into her job and if she is guilty it is of loving people who she sees are in need of any kind of help. even taking them shopping to help them with social skills. You try it with a person who has a brain injury. Walk in her shoes then Judge her. Her Lawyer will turn this all around and she will get some slap on the wrist, but if she goes to jail over this just because the State needs to find some patsy for bigger problems this state has well. God Bless them I'll stand by her to the End. Lewis A. Steavenson
May 15, 2009 at 9:58 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
lsteaven (anonymous) says...
One Last coment update on Vivian Leann Steavenson Mundy. How she writes her name is no consequence to me. She is all of those names and all of them are her. She was a Mundy and she will always be a Steavenson. She now has people helping her keep her books in order and while this investagation was going on Vivian had taken on another company dropped by Newmans Hospital. Wonder if anyone knows that she has many people working for her now. These charges go back to when she was just trying to get a business off the ground. If she is so bad at this why would she take more of this business on her shoulders . I only hope when she is aquited of all charges and I am certain she will be that this newspaper will acknowledge that as much as they have pronounced her guilty in this article. So her business will keep on growing and thriving.
May 15, 2009 at 10:09 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
biscuitboy (anonymous) says...
Of course it is wrong to pre-judge but we all to it to some degree and the only time we are held accountable for it is when somebody disagrees with our judgement.
But we are talking about $158,000.00 here and in my neighborhood thats a lot of bacon and beans. If my meager pay check next week comes in at $158,000.00 larger than I expected I'll bet you I will expect there was a bookkeeping error somewhere.
Also if she lives such a frugal live....the money must have gone somewhere.....that where might explain it all.
May 16, 2009 at 6:11 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
glarson (anonymous) says...
Moved to a forum:
http://www.emporiagazette.com/forums/...
May 16, 2009 at 9:26 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )