tbluma (anonymous) says...

crack do you ever even go to a bar?

March 18, 2009 at 2:32 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Bjnemp (anonymous) says...

I am a smoker and have no problem with the current smoking ban policy already in effect in Emporia. I agree with smoking being barred from public buildings, schools, offices, retail stores, and interior spaces where people are REQUIRED to congregate.

My problem is with the overly-restrictive ban attempting to be rammed down our throats under false pretenses, lies, fearmongering, and Gestapo tactics by a small group of self-serving nicotine narco-nannys intent on dictating law where people CHOOSE to congregate, such as bars, private clubs, and hotel rooms.

Have you read the text of the proposed ban? It is over the top to the point of being far more punitive than comprehensive. It has little to do with health and a lot to do with prejudice and intolerance. It creates social classes, division, and forces our fire fighters to become nicotine narcs and drug enforcement agents.

If this ban is allowed to become law it will create far more problems and misery than it claims to cure. It will directly affect lives, incomes, jobs, rights, personal freedoms, tax revenues, and tourist (visitor) dollars for our city. It will create hardships for the disabled and elderly and force young women to "step outside" into dark alleys and parking lots in the middle of the night to have a smoke with their drink. The ban will also bring the smoke outside onto sidewalks and store fronts instead of confining it to the privacy of a building. How will that keep the anti-smoking advocates from exposing themselves and their children to the second-hand smoke they claim to so drastically fear?

Worst of all, this ban prevents combat veterans, the men and women who sacrificed to preserve our rights and freedoms, the right and freedom to enjoy a good cigar or cigarette in the confines of their own private club, like the VFW. They fought and died for our freedom and CAE seeks to take away those freedoms in order to appease their need to control lives and dictate behavior.

This ban is only the beginning. Warlord Walters, CAE, Crackinsack, and the other overly-self important advocates of this unnecessary attempt at legislating morality and personal choice, won't stop here. Next they will seek to ban smoking anywhere in the city limits, the county, and the state, including your car and home. When they finish ridding their perfect world of smelly smokers, who knows what they will go after. Maybe fat people, large dogs, drinkers, or undesirables who drive cars they don't approve of. We may someday have to stand outside of McDonald's, ten feet from the door, to eat a double quarter-pounder!

This smoking ban isn't about health. It is about choice, rights, tolerance, common sense, and good ol' fashioned American, worth dying for, "Give me liberty or give me death", "Don't tread on me", freedom.

This is a door we can't afford to open. Once opened, it can never again be closed.

Vote "NO" on April 7.

March 18, 2009 at 2:52 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Bjnemp (anonymous) says...

Posted by crackinsack (anonymous) on March 18, 2009 at 2:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"You'll still be able to choose, Roy. Your choice will be between not smoking and taking it outside so you don't harm us. You are losing no rights and we're all gaining a brighter future."

Hmmm. So Roy should be forced to make difficult decisions that you dictate, such as fighting withdrawal or standing in the rain to smoke, while you have to make no choices at all. Good plan, Crack... for your selfish, intolerant, bigoted self.

"People need to get it out of their heads that smoking is beneficial and/or cool. It’s not and it certainly ain’t worth fighting for."

Gee. I thought you smoking ban bigots said this was a health issue. Whoops!

"Smoking is not being banned."

No, just smokers; and personal freedoms and choices.

"Harming others with your smoke is being banned."

That is your personal deluded opinion and rationalization for infringing on the rights of others. If you are not where I am, how am I harming you? You have that choice. Use it instead of taking away my option to choose.

You are an intolerant bigot, Crack. You use lies, distortions, fear, and totally inane logic to try and force your deluded view of the world and selfish values upon others. Stop peeing on my leg and trying to convince me it is raining.

Vote "NO" on April7!!!

March 18, 2009 at 3:24 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Bjnemp (anonymous) says...

Crack: You just don't get it and lack sufficient intellect to ever get it. YOU have the choice to stay out of bars that allow smoking or the hand full of restaurants that allow it. All other buildings in Emporia are all ready smoke free. We all have choices, for now, but you want to take away the rights of others while maintaining all of your options.

I stand by what I said. You are a selfish, intolerant, bigot. Oh! And incapable of seeing the real issue in this debate.

March 18, 2009 at 3:41 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

Bjnemp;

I'll ask you the same question here that I did oh4theluvof on another post.

Other than the entertainment value, why do you keep at it?
With crack I mean.
Steve

March 18, 2009 at 4:16 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

spectator (anonymous) says...

I don't smoke; never did and don't plan to start but....

When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

Then they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
I did not speak out;
I was not a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out for me.

First they regulate this smoking ban....what's next ?

This is stupid people. If a privately owned business is a "smoking" business and you don't like smoking, then take your money somewhere else. Why is it your mission to dictate for anyone else? If you don't want to be around shs, don't go where you know you will be exposed to it. Aren't we regulated enough now ?

March 18, 2009 at 4:16 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...

crack
"I sure do! I would love to go more often and stay longer, but I can't stand how I feel after breathing all the SHS."
If you go more often then you'll probably consume more alcohol and shorten your life that way. Maybe the shs is helping you not drink as often and is actually improving your health. Maybe if the ban goes into affect you will drink so much more that your liver will fail and then you'll curse the day you voted for the ban. So think of your liver and vote NO.

March 18, 2009 at 6:12 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

rox_alan (anonymous) says...

I agree with Bjnemp this ban the way it was proposed is basically taking away the smokers rights. You non smokers have a choice whether to go in a bar or restuarant that smokes just like a smoker has the choice if they want to go in a bar or resturant that is non smoking but to tell them this is the way it is and its this way or you get fined is taking away the rights of the citizens and of the men and women who are and had served our country for our freedom of choice on many issues. Teresa Walters and her committee is just trying to be a big shot. Thinks it makes her big in this town. But all it is being is that we are being told how to live when to live and where to live. Are we living in Nazi Germany time period again? It sure is looking that way!

March 18, 2009 at 6:26 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

trbluma (anonymous) says...

rbow I agree with you about entertainment value. Like I said last night, it's hard to have a battle of wits with unarmed people.

March 18, 2009 at 7:37 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Bjnemp (anonymous) says...

rbow: Your insight is impressive. I spar with her for the sheer entertainment value of it. She is just such an easy target I can't resist. I'm about to give up on her, though. She keeps using the same silly illogical responses over and over and I'm getting bored. Verbal sparring with her is like trying to play chess with a two year old.

March 18, 2009 at 9:54 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

joecitizen (anonymous) says...

hey crack!!
the Blind is a non smoking bar by choice, their own choice!!
come out there tomorrow night, and all your drinks are on me. but i don't suspect you will, cause you don't go to bars anyways, and therefore wouldn't be interested, in exploring a very accessible option already available to you. i'll be waiting, hope to see you there.

March 19, 2009 at 11:10 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

joecitizen:

Be careful offering free drinks to ole cracky. We've all heard on here how she likes the suds.
You are right that the Noose is non-smoking by their choice, and if you listened to the owner on the radio yesterday, he said that they were still waiting for all of those non-smokers to come in. Come on non-smokers, he can't pay the rent with waiting for you dollars. And joe I don't think you'll see ole cracky, she will tell you she couldn't get past all those nasty smokers out front to get inside. Sorry, this is a perfect chance for those thousands of people wanting a non-smoking nightclub to put their money where their mouth is.

March 20, 2009 at 6:38 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

Let's get off the bar talk for a while.

This ban covers Motels and Bed & Breakfasts also.
Absolutely NO smoking rooms allowed in Emporia.

Your lawyer or bookeepers office-no smoking allowed
Your mechanic shop-no-smoking allowed.

You Avon ladies or Home Decore or Amway dealers who have customers pick up orders in your house-no smoking allowed. & the ordinance reads no-smoking during or after business hours.

home based day care, not only while the kids are there, (which is a good idea), but even after mom & dad picks the kids up and the day care provider is just relaxing in their own living room.

ANY BUILDING IN EMPORIA KANSAS.

NOW THAT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT!

March 20, 2009 at 7:39 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

josiesbar (anonymous) says...

Didn't Bobbi Sauder stand in front of the City Commission and tell them how much she looked forward to going to The Noose without dealing with SHS? Why haven't you been in there yet Mrs. Sauder?

March 20, 2009 at 8:35 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

josiesbar (anonymous) says...

So let me get this straight... You all cry and whine and complain to the city commission that you want bars to be non-smoking. A bar turns non-smoking, and then you don't go to it, because you like the "atmosphere" of other bars?

I thought that was the reason you didn't go to all the other bars in the first place, was because of the "atmosphere."

I don't know how else to say this, but right now, you all sound pretty damn stupid to me.

Matt

March 20, 2009 at 9:12 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

OutsiderJ (anonymous) says...

Crack,
In all seriousness, as an olive branch you might say, I would encourage you and your crew to go to the Noose. I have been there many times (before they went non-smoking.) Friendly atmosphere, nice comfortable chairs, a snooker table for crying out loud. Amenities like that are hard to find in bars. And for the ecclectics in your bunch there is even art on the walls, and if you are so inclined you could buy some of it and put it up on your walls as reminder that you made a choice to go to a place that suited your needs and catered to your preferences.

If that ain't enough, they used to have free juke box hours on certain nights of the week. I ain't talkin' bout no push B5 juke box either. I'm talking you can download the most obscure of your favorites and listen to them over a nice cold PBR or mixed drink (since they are a full service bar, unlike the blind).

Give it a try, you might find a place to call your regular haunt. It may also give you a chance to sit, think, and reflect. After your reflection, you may even find that the status quo and capitalism make for a pretty good solution to the problem. Hell, you may even make some new friends, some of the regulars there are a real hoot!

March 20, 2009 at 9:15 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

josiesbar (anonymous) says...

"If I am only supposed to go to smoke-free places, I have lost my freedom to go where I please."

YES! I think you FINALLY get it! Yes, you WILL have lost your freedom to go where you please! We have been saying this since the onset of this whole shenanigan!

Here's what you and the other ban-nuts don't get. What you say about the employees and customers at other bars being exposed to SHS, you are ASSUMING they mind. They don't. You don't work at a bar, or go to a bar, to be healthy. It's not a health club! You have stated on here many times that Steve doesn't know his employees, and that they are really against the ban, but won't say so to his face. Have you ever asked them? Has the CLean Air People (the CLAP) ever asked them?

NO!!!! You just assume that because you don't like something that is POSSIBLY bad for you, that everyone doesn't like it. Most people who go to a bar just flat-out don't care. Those that do are free to leave at any time.

That is what is most aggravating to me is the people that are pushing so hard for this ban never go to bars, and if the ban passes, will continue to not go to bars, even though they promised they would. The Noose is a PRIME example of that!

Why should all bars in Emporia have to conform to you? Why can't a couple of non-smoking bars be good enough? Does every business in town have to cater to you?

March 20, 2009 at 10:07 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...

People that go into a smokey bar voluntarily bring any harm that might come on themselves PERIOD! Only adults are allowed in bars and as adults they have been bombarded with information about the dangers of both smoking and to a lesser degree alcohol(I say lesser degree to the education on the topic not the danger because drinking is more socially accepted and people are less likely to point out it's dangers). These are informed adults making informed decisions, they are not victims even if they cry like they are.

If you drink less because you stay at a bar less because there is smoke in the are, aren't you actually doing less harm to your body then if you stayed and drank for hours. Do you love your lungs and hate your liver? Is that it?

Please vote NO!

March 20, 2009 at 10:41 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

I don't know matt, listening to ole cracky's posts I have the feeling that they would cry if they were hung with a new rope. (AND NO DUMBY ,THAT WAS NOT A THREAT)

Over the last few weeks, CHE has managed, with our help, to make this issue about bars and it's NOT!

EVERY BUSINESS IS COVERED UNDER THIS BAN!

Motels NO smoking rooms at all.
Bed & Breakfasts
Auto repair shops
Plumbing shops
Heating and Air shops
bait shops
attourney offices
bookeepers offices
newspaper offices heh GAZETTE
landscaping businesses
contractors
electricians
printing shops
battery shops
radiator shops
quilting shops
laundromats
beauty shops
barber shops
insurance agents
fruit and vegetable stands: up to & including the farmers market if the food was grown on a emporia smoking residents property.
bars
restaurants
day care homes, even after the kids are gone
all manufacturing plants
convienience stores
gas stations, (DUH)
cosmetology schools
appliance stores
furniture stores
thrift stores
rental stores
rental offices (apartment)
car dealers
banquet halls
motel meeting rooms
drug stores
banks
churches
lumber companies
carpet stores
farm supply stores
farm implement dealers
towing companies
AND LAST BUT CERTAINLY NOT LEAST

PRIVATE CLUBS SUCH AS THE VFW AND THE AMERICAN LEGION whose memberships fought and died for the rights of Americans to choose.

vote early
VOTE NO
I did
Steve Corbin

March 20, 2009 at 11:17 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

Is it just me or does anyone else believe that these to statements from crack sound like someone who is a bit "hyprocital and bigoted " !

"we aren't telling smokers where they can and can't go; we are telling them what they can't do while there."

"If I am only supposed to go to smoke-free places, I have lost my freedom to go where I please."

To me these statements sound a lot like a person who wants to control others lives and loss of freedoms and yet screams like a stuck pig when the thought of someone controlling any aspect of his/her life or freedoms is threatened ! Wow! How selfish and controlling can a person or persons get anyway !

VOTE NO and stop these people in their tracks !

March 20, 2009 at 11:18 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

Besides, all or some of the smoking ban advocates who post on this thread, have openly admitted that they do not even want smokers smoking outdoors either !
So, people the writing is on the wall so to speak !

VOTE NO to this obvious attempt at controlling your/our lives and way of living and losing certain of our/your personal rights, freedoms and civil liberties. Also if just one ban is approved, there will definately be more to come ! Again I say VOTE NO !

March 20, 2009 at 11:24 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

A little on the lighter side. I think most of us know what happens when you get a bunch of good ole boys and gals together in a bar downing some beers ! In a little while there is going to be an abundent amount of, to be civil, beer gas released and I think we all know what a stink that can raise.
So just because some delicate nosed person in the bar at the time doesn't appreciate the smell, they leave and a few days later a petition is presented to the City Commissioners by the BBBFC to ban beer flatulence in all the bars and the patrons who have to release butt gas will have to go out side and release standing at the curb with their butts pointed at the street or face a fine and 30 days incarceration in an outhouse ! ( BBBFC = BanBarBeerFlatulenceCommittee)
Just a little levity to lighten things up a bit, but who " NOSE " !

VOTE NO !

March 20, 2009 at 11:43 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

crack;
Make up you mind what argument you wish to pursue. Is it Health, Rights, save the Children, Control, Smell, just exactly what will be your next attempt at gaining sympathy !
Oh, and now are you insuating that my early vote or vote at all will not count or will be futile
Exactly why is that ? Do you know something about the vote or votes that is predetermined or possibly fradulent ballot box stuffing ! Kind of makes me wonder if something is rotten in Denmark, so to speak !
Also exactly which people want this ?

March 20, 2009 at 11:54 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

josiesbar (anonymous) says...

"I have the feeling that they would cry if they were hung with a new rope."

Or water-boarded with Aqua-fina!

March 20, 2009 at 12:14 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

I find it great that over 160 people have exercised their right to vote early, no matter how they voted. Of course I do hope they voted NO but the fact that that many have voted already means people are engaged in the process. I predict a 49% turnout. I also predict the no votes will win by only 10 votes. Make sure you get out to vote if you have time vote early, just in case something comes up on April 7th to keep you from the polls.
VOTE NO
I DID
Steve

March 20, 2009 at 1 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...

crack says
"I can’t wait for a smoke-free Emporia!"
There's the proof that they don't want it to stop at just this ban. They want to make EMPORIA smoke free not just the places in this ban but all of Emporia. Keep talkin' crack and let people see the true motives for this ban.

Vote NO please. Thank you.

March 20, 2009 at 1:12 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

seriouslyfolks;
You are exactly right in your assertion that a smoking ban will not stop at only bars and restaurants but will expand to include everwhere, even your/our own homes ! I have always maintained from the time I read the smoking ban agenda and strategy handbook, that the agenda would not stop at just a ban in bars and restaurants.
These power and control minded people not only want to control our/your individual lives but they also want to control the private businesses and private business owners !
And as you can see by cracks and other smoking ban advocates statements. These people absolutely want to control what certain people can do and where they can do it. However the smoking ban people absolutely do not want to be controlled or have to make a choice at all, in any way shape or form !

VOTE NO !

March 20, 2009 at 1:38 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

If anyone is interested here is a little news tidbit I came across while googling ! To read it go to the following website

http://www.ktka.com/news/2009/mar/04/...

March 20, 2009 at 1:50 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Weltha (anonymous) says...

crack says- I'm not against smoking as long as it doesn't affect the public. By "smoke free Emporia" I mean that it will appear to be smoke free on the surface. This will make our city cleaner and more inviting. This will lead to more people moving here and there will be a demand for new businesses and that'll mean new jobs. Oh,

I ask- How is this? How do we look like a smoke free Emporia when everyone and their dog is standing on the sidewalk smoking? Pull your foot outta your mouth and explain that one to me. Please do this without using one of your pre- rehersed lines...

March 20, 2009 at 2:53 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Weltha (anonymous) says...

methusla- I loved your little scenerio on BBB butt gas had me rolling.....

March 20, 2009 at 2:57 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Weltha (anonymous) says...

First, I am not your dear. Second, RLMAO! I'm at a loss of words for your deluded arss. Oh! Wait! I do have something to say. I do NOT know of ONE single person who goes to a bar for their HEALTH. Also, I do see people going outside, I also see drinks being left unattended and we have ALL heard the horror stories on the news about what happens to unattended drinks. I would soooo much rather take my chances with SHS than what could happen if someone was slipped something in their drink.

you said- "Honestly, no one will even want to hang-out outside...."

This is about the only true statement I have seen come out of your fingers on this whole subject. You are correct. Thats why they are fighting this rediculous ban. They don't want to nor should they be made to go outside.
WOW! For not having to much to say I sure did find it, huh?! I leave you with a cute one liner then I'm done. Unless, you come up with something that I just totally can't resist rhetoric.

"Some people are like slinkies, they aren't really worth anything, but they sure do bring a smile to your face when they roll down the stairs."

March 20, 2009 at 3:42 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

1sgt_retired (anonymous) says...

Methusla said, "Is it just me or does anyone else believe that these to statements from crack sound like someone who is a bit "hyprocital and bigoted " !

Seriously, Methusla, you of all people should no better than to ask THAT question.

For those who missed it, Methusla called IrishEmporia an Irish terrorist and a M***.

March 20, 2009 at 4:59 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Weltha (anonymous) says...

Sorry all one more for crack LOL. AWeltha

March 20, 2009 at 7:06 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

joecitizen (anonymous) says...

i'm waiting crack!!

March 20, 2009 at 7:46 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

1sgt_retired;

GET OVER IT ! I suppose according to your way of thinking I am supposed to just set back and let someone insult, degrade, make insinuations, etc, and not respond or retaliate or defend myself in a like manner or worse. Well forget it and you are doing the same thing on many of your posts to almost every smoking ban opponent on here. When you disrespect someone, you will receive disrespect in return . So I say again, GET OVER IT AND MOVE ON !
Besides, I did not say crack was a bigot or a hyprocrit, I said that to me it sounded that way, that is not specifically calling crack a bigot or hypocrit ! And right away you have to start your standard attacking rehtoric !
Furthermore I will not give you the satisfaction of anymore responses from me, for I have decided not to be in the same gutter as you and some others.

March 20, 2009 at 7:55 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

oh4theluvof (anonymous) says...

Well, I guess crack doesn't really care as much about the kids as he would like us to think---BIG SURPRISE! I guess in another few weeks we will see if the rest of our fair city disregards them the way he does, or if they really do care.

March 20, 2009 at 8:04 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

crack;
You missed the whole point of my beer gas story, it was not a slam at anyone or anything. It was merely an attempt by me to bring a little levity to this thread and break the seriousness and perhaps make someone laugh for a moment, thats all it was. At least it gave one person a laugh !

March 20, 2009 at 8:04 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

1sgt_retired (anonymous) says...

Meth: I won't "get over it." Everytime you post something even suggesting that someone is racist, I plan to remind this group who you really are. The people on this forum are not stupid. They see you for who you really are.

March 20, 2009 at 8:07 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

wyse_guy (anonymous) says...

Well I voted early and voted just the way crack wanted me to I voted NO.

March 20, 2009 at 8:11 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

Heh, 1sgt, care to share any of you old marine war stories with us? Where you served, the bloody action you saw? The bullets you dodged, the gore you saw? Or was you service limited to ringing the little bell in front of the red kettle at Christmas time?
Now THAT IS SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.

March 20, 2009 at 9:30 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

OLE CRACKY STATED:

"Also, voting early doesn’t count extra or anything, so I’m not sure why you people are bragging. I’ll vote on the 7th and the ban will pass."

Please vote early, before that toxic shs kills you and then you won't have the opportunity to have your vote counted. Remember to vote NO.

March 20, 2009 at 9:49 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...

crack
you said
"If anyone is harmed from "drinks being left unattended" it is their own fault."
By this logic if you go around smokers(into an environment that includes them) and you are harmed, it is your fault. Don't punish them for something that is your fault.

1sgt
Seriously, your high horse died on your first post on these forums. Stop trying to mount it. More righteous than methusla you are NOT.

March 20, 2009 at 11:15 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

1sgt_retired (anonymous) says...

I seriously doubt anyone could be more righteous than Meth.

March 20, 2009 at 11:25 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

1sgt_retired (anonymous) says...

And, Rbow, My record is not at issue here.

March 20, 2009 at 11:25 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...

You sure like to treat him as if you think you are. Well, you've pretty much treated everyone here that way especially us nonMarine vets.

March 20, 2009 at 11:37 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

seriouslyfolks;

I appreciate your words. However I hope you realize what you have let yourself in for by speaking anything kind about me and hope you don't regret it.

March 20, 2009 at 11:40 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

1sgt_retired ;

Just exactly what kind of person do you and the other people on here think I am. Come on, lets here it, don't just put inuendos, etc., out there, lets all here exactly what kind of person I am, since I will only stand for so much bad mouthing from anyone and then I will retaliate. So come on lets here it, lets here your professional psycoanalists opinion of exactly what kind of person you absolutely know I am ! Come on big mouth spit it out, like I know you want to and get it over with ! You have not met me or talked to me. As far as I know there are only two people on any of these threads that have met me and talked to me in person and would even have any idea of what I am really like ! After all we all can't be like you and irishemporia are, who never belittle, insult, degrade or call anyone names or say that everything a person posts on this thread is nothing but, and I quote, " CRAP " , no sir not all of us can be like that !

March 20, 2009 at 11:48 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

1sgt_retired;

Anyone and everyone is and are more righteous than you and your buddy . Who, by the way are the first to insult, degrade, insinuate, cast aspersions or disparaging remarks upon anyone who happens to disagree with them or post any info that they feel is not worthy, or as one put it " ignorant and " Nothing but CRAP. " And then when a person gets fed up with their, or at least ones continued, to use his word " CRAP " and retaliates with a strong and belittling comment, they get all upset and label that person, me in this case a bigot and racist.
Seriouslyfolks, I am sorry that you have gotten involved in this and don't deserve what may come your way, because of it.
I have said before and I will say it again now. I will not apologize for retaliating in like kind or worse, especially when I am attacked first and repeatedly by anyone ! However I will try to not lower myself to their level again. That is unless I get fed up with their/his continued pushing of the issue, but I will try very hard not to respond to any attacks by these two !

March 21, 2009 at 12:13 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...

methusla
I won't regret it.

March 21, 2009 at 12:18 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...

YY4U
Thanks. I think. "I've tried to respect myself but I know me to well." Me (1974-present AD)

March 21, 2009 at 12:52 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

lsgt_retired (anonymous) says...

VOTE Early! Vote NO!

March 21, 2009 at 1:47 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

blulitespecial (anonymous) says...

Heck,this all started because a couple biddies wanted to go to Brufff's to have wings and steak! They were upset about alcohol and smokes!

March 21, 2009 at 3 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

1sgt_retired (anonymous) says...

(Cross posted)

Tell you what, Meth, Rbow, et. al: There is not much point to name calling, questioning sexual preference or forging someone's user name.

From now on, you can take on the role of personal attacker. I don't see the point, and refuse to participate anymore. My apologies to anyone and everyone whom I have insulted.

From now on, I'll post what I believe to be relevant information regarding SHS. The rest is a waste of time.

Feel free to attack my posts, feel free to attack me, feel free to attack my service. I've faced much tougher crowds than this.

March 21, 2009 at 7:32 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

come on people;
STOP WITH THE USERNAME RIP-OFFS!
BOTH SIDES

March 21, 2009 at 7:38 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...

YY4U
That's a good one. "Only through self critique can I learn who I really am and become what I need to be." Me (1974-present)

Vote NO please. Thank you.

March 21, 2009 at 8:56 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Bjnemp (anonymous) says...

It was crackinback and her crew that first tried ripping off user names in order to gain support through deceit. Let's not do the same thing and stoop to their pathetic, low-class and desperate level.

March 22, 2009 at 1:32 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

Any way the count of stolen signs is now at 29 and a police report has been filed. We are contacting crime-stoppers mon. a.m. to post the $500.00 reward. Why were the yellow signs stripped in block after block while the green signs remained? Makes one think that perhaps COMMITTEE FOR A HEALTHIER EMPORIA has a few crackpots working in their behalf. They haven't even banned our rights yet and they are taking away our right to free speech.
Steve Corbin
mad as hell

March 22, 2009 at 3:07 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

USNretired (anonymous) says...

Sounds like we need outdoor bars and cafes in Emporia.

March 22, 2009 at 6:38 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

All I and all or most all of the other smoking ban opponents have ever tried to do on these threads is post what we have believed was and still believe is relevant information about SHS and other equally hazardous materials, one is exposed to every day of our lives and what we believe is the real issue behind this unnecessary and overly restrictive smoking ban !

March 22, 2009 at 6:51 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...

I find it ironic that these people trying to make new laws are breaking existing laws by stealing these signs.

March 22, 2009 at 6:52 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )