The Hartford logjam has begun to move in large chunks on down the Neosho River, but it may be a long time before the river is completely open again.
The logjam is on the river in Coffey County, near the Hartford access ramp. Local officials were told the logjam was caused by a cottonwood tree that was lodged under the bridge during flooding in the middle of May.
Wednesday afternoon, some of the logjam was breaking off in chunks that were floating slowly downstream.
This morning, Lyon County Zoning Director and Flood Plain Manager Samuel Seeley said a large chunk is not moving. The Corps of Engineers are monitoring the situation. He said he was told the situation would solve itself.
“If it does solve itself, it’s going to create a bigger problem downstream,” Seeley said Wednesday morning.
madpoet (anonymous) says...
Why not just let the whole darn thing be a sea of logs? I fail to see how they let the Jacob's Creek one go on for years and years and did nothing. I am rather surprised no one threw a quarter stick of dynamite in that logjam while it was still small. Now it's gotten so huge no one knows what to do with it. Sickening.
June 5, 2009 at 10:03 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
I'm afraid that the PETOLJ(people for the ethical treatment of log jams) frowns upon the us of dynamite on the poor defenseless log jams. I do believe however that their is some(a couple billion $) stim pack money set aside to study log jams and figure out why they jam together like they do and if it's a self esteem issue they will get the proper counseling.
June 5, 2009 at 10:28 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
MrCmonkeeDo (anonymous) says...
It would be interesting to know WHO told Seeley, "the situation would solve itself." Sounds like a Knuckle-Head.
Dynamite would just send the problem down stream a few miles, or to the next bridge, or the next low spot, assuming of course it worked at all.
It's time to get some real advice on this issue. Good gravy, there are folks who know how to deal with log jambs. MrCmonkeeDo used to work with some old boys who'd a pushed their Link-Belt Cranes down there and cleaned that mess up lickitee-split.
The Corps of Engineers need to get off their butts.
June 5, 2009 at 9:09 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Blackshirt (anonymous) says...
I agree with Seriously. We don't want to make the logs in the jam to feel out of place or not wanted.
June 5, 2009 at 9:46 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
"Logjam Breaking Up"
Main those guys ROCK! I saw Logjam open up for Whitesnake in 86. I can't believe they're breaking up. They were a big influence on the Beatles. Are any of the band going to put out solo albums? Has anybody heard? Robert "Bozo" Clamentifordston is arguably the greatest drummer ever.
June 6, 2009 at 9:23 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
create (anonymous) says...
A crane or a helicopter would take care of the problem lickety split. Corps of Engineers indeed. Ha!
If there were high-dollar homes and businesses at stake that logjam would be gone already.
Seriously, you're too much.
June 7, 2009 at 7:10 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
morajic (anonymous) says...
I had a logjam once. Took a box of bran and a plunger to fix that...
June 8, 2009 at 9:07 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
That's how Logjam got inpiration for their name. The lead singer/recorder player Jeffie "Spuds/Papa/Larry" Baldoofio loved cheese and............. you can guess the rest.
June 8, 2009 at 9:51 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
I have a couple of apologies to make. First to those that believed that there was a literal logjam breaking up. This and many similar stories were printed in newspapers around the country in code letting Logjam(the rock band) fans know that after 61yrs they are calling it quits. Second, I apologize to all who have not been able to find the info on Logjam that I have posted in various places on EG online. I will copy and paste them all to this convenient location for your ..................... convenience.
Sorry about the confusion.
Seriously R. Folks
June 11, 2009 at noon ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
Posted on June 10 at 2:04 p.m.
Speaking of bands and smoking bans, it is said(and I believe it to be true) that the classic rock/jazz/fusion/progressive/alt country/ power pop band Logjam is breaking up due to a wane in popularity forcing them to gig at small bars and with all the smoking bans the bars are losing business and Logjam is losing income. The saddest part of the story is that, the rhythm guitarist/synchronized swimmer, Chaps Madoof tried to return to his former job at the Nehi soda factory in Georgia only to find it closed forty years ago. Very sad. There could be a silver lining to all this though. With Logjam calling it quits after 61 years there is an increasing interest in there music and thousands of tribute bands forming across the country. Could these bands help draw people back to the bars that are losing customers because of the smoking bans? It would be poetic if the music of the band that was brought down by the smoking bans would help save the bars that are losing business by the same bans. Logjam had such a long carrier that spanned so many genres that their music would be right at home in almost any bar. Maybe it will work, maybe not, only time will tell. All I know is that the music of Logjam will live on.
June 11, 2009 at 12:01 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
Posted on June 10 at 8:09 p.m.
When D.D. CeVille, the lead guitarist for Logjam rips into a solo Logjam fans say "He's burnin' wood again! YEAH!" because legend has it that one time the neck on his guitar caught on fire because of the friction created by this guitar legends hands. A product was invented to cut down on the friction when he played .................... anyone heard of ...........Vaseline? Thank you Mr.CeVille.
June 11, 2009 at 12:03 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
Posted on June 10 at 5:19 p.m.
crack
I'm affraid you won't find much if anything Googleing Logjam as they don't believe in the internet but perhaps now that they're breaking up they might allow some tribute sites and maybe a Wiki page or something. As the fan club pres for Eastern Kansans for Logjam (The EKL) or Elk as we call ourselves I will contact Chaps and the guys and see if I can get permission to do an article for the Gazette online. Kind of a history of the band and maybe individual pieces on each band member. Anybody remember the band out of Olpe back in the late eighties early nineties, Cheeselog? They were a pretty good Logjam tribute band, maybe they'll get back together.
June 11, 2009 at 12:04 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
Posted on June 11 at 9:30 a.m.
My in box at seriousnews.pfft was full this morning with people asking questions about Logjam. News travels slow when the band doesn't believe in the internet. One person noticed the similarity of the lead guitarists name, D.D. CeVille, with the name of the guitarist from the 80s hairmetal band Poison, C.C. DeVille. That was a good catch. No one can deny the influence Logjam and D.D. in particular had on heavymetal and glamrock which spawned hairmetal. It wasn't just D.D.'s awesome guitaristing that inspired so many youngsters to take up guitar, it was his look and keen sense of style. He can take credit for his amazing chops on the guitar but his looks are a different story. Shortly after the release of Logjams first album, Shaky Spaces and Spacey Chases(their only Jazz record), D.D. was struck by lightning thrice while lookin' for crawdads on the banks of the Chipitatalkawa creek near his parents trailer house in Mudbug Georgia. The lightning strikes left his skin very pale and his hair turned platinum blonde and it grew uncontrollably fast and was very frizzy. He has to get a hair cut every morning but by evening it's back to his signature "mop" of hair. The lightning incident had another side effect for this 14 year old guitar prodigy, from that day forward he would always be 63% color blind in both eyes, that's why he always wears very colorful borderline outlandish outfits(they look quite normal to D.D.). If you've always wondered who to blame for glam rock and hairmetal now you know. An interesting side not is that no one from Logjam ever smoked and it was smoking bans that brought them down, how ironic. Well...... D.D. did smoke once but you try not smoking after being struck by lightning.
"He's burnin' wood again! Yeah!"
Long live Chaps!
June 11, 2009 at 12:06 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
Sorry about posting a few of those out of order but this internet stuff is tricky sometimes. If you think this is the entire story of Logjam think again. There is plenty more(????) story to tell and since you are all so very interested I will oblige.
"He's burnin' wood again! Yeah!"
Long live Chaps!
Seriously R. Folks
June 11, 2009 at 12:09 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
A question I get a lot is "How did Logjam go from having the greatest Jazz album ever in the world(Shaky Spaces and Spacey Chases)(recently reissued on vinyl through Folksy Folk Records) to the greatest Rock band ever in the world?". Well I'm glad you asked. This is by far my favorite piece of Logjam lore.
Logjam was originally a 4 piece band consisting of Jeffie "Spuds/Papa/Larry" Baldoofio simultaneously on lead and backing vocals, D.D. CeVille on lead guitar and supplying power during outages, Robert "Bozo" Clamentifordston on drums, and rhythm guitarist / synchronized swimmer, Chaps Madoof. After the "Spacey Chases" tour sponsored by Nehi soda in the summer and fall of 49' it was time to enter the studio again. They were feeling limited by the sounds they could produce since they didn't have a bass player but couldn't find an upright bassist that could get loud enough to be heard over D.D. and Bozo. D.D.'s cousin, Bob Schmitz was working on a way to amplify his ceramic jug. He was in the hospital because his jug exploded while he was trying to drill a hole in it to run wires through for the pickup and output jack. He had all but given up when he got the call from D.D. that Logjam needed his help. With studio time running out Bob was motivated to finish His prototype "Electric Jug". The "Electric Jug" predated Leo Fender's Precision bass guitar by more than 2 years. If the patent papers hadn't got lost in the mail, rock bands would look a lot different today. The really ironic thing is that Bob was Mudbug Georgia's only mail carrier and was too busy making Logjams second album "Hey, look over yonder at what the dog gots on the porch" to deliver his own mail.
Well anyhoo, with the amplified bass sounds of Bob's "Electric Jug" filling out Logjam's sound the sky was the limit and Rock n' Roll was born. Those recording sessions had a profound impact on the bands best friend and roadie ........................ Chuck Berry.
June 11, 2009 at 12:53 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
oh4theluvof (anonymous) says...
seriouslyfolks:
I just read "Mushrooms and Mind" in tonight's edition. Tell us about Mushrooms and Logjam because I get the feeling you enjoy a mushroom or two. :)
June 11, 2009 at 6:42 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
No, I am a conservative and am sober and serious at all times. I'm not like those crazy moderates havin' "fun" and "Jokin' around" all the time. I'm quite the stuffed shirt. Obviously.
Seriously R. Folks
June 11, 2009 at 7:20 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...
Seriously R. Folks:
Toooooooo much man, where did you get those mushrooms and are you sharing them with Pat Kelly? You have him posting about Kansas and "blowing in the wind" Learning the history of the obscure group "LOGJAM" is very interesting. Where do I get a copy of the Jazz Album from LOGJAM? I've looked evrywhere man.
June 11, 2009 at 9:01 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
With the enormous instantaneous overwhelminglyness success of Logjam's second album "Hey, look over yonder at what the dog gots on the porch" a tour was a must to support the album. After two years of constant touring of the U.S. ,Europe and Papua New Guinea (Jeffie "Spuds/Papa/Larry" Baldoofio's papa's name ironically was Newguinea, maybe that's why they felt it necessary to tour there) they had grown very tired of there material. They felt that their lyrics in particular were lacking, I tend to disagree. Some of my favorite lyrics come from "what the dog gots"(as the die hard fans call it). For example look at the song "Asphalt Grocery Store", "Nevermind them bumper marks, thems is some good eatin', you're not that picky, you're just a doin' too much thinkin' ". I don't care who you are those are haunting lyrics. I have chills just typing them. Well it doesn't really matter what I think, I'm not writing the history of Logjam, I'm only reporting it.
They felt their lyrics were lacking when entering the studio for their third album "Swirly Twirly Gumshoe" (a rock opera about a private detective with an inner ear infection). The first week of recording was pretty much a waste as they all were burned out. Then one day the janitor Lenny MacCartknee who was on work release from jail sat down at the piano and started playing chop sticks and singing the most interesting lyrics the band had ever heard. The lyrics told the story of a p.i. that was investigating a man who was stealing Nehi soda from his grammy's fridge. The man did some investigating of his own and found that the p.i. was cheating on his wife and he used this info to blackmail the p.i. into lying about who was really stealing the Nehi. Lenny had no musical talent beyond the lyrics and chopsticks but the lyrics were enough. He was in and Logjam was complete. While on tour to support "Swirly Twirly Gumshoe" Lenny was forced to confess that the story in the rock opera was true and he was the man from the story when everyone's Nehi kept disappearing. After a stint in rehab Lenny rejoined the tour in Milwaukee. The audience never noticed that he was missing.
Seriously R. Folks
June 12, 2009 at 9:42 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
theguyudntknow (anonymous) says...
they shoulda just got the guys from s&s aqua logging (Ax Men) here they woulda got rid of it lol. And it woulda made for good entertainment. JP
June 13, 2009 at 3:07 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
ahhh The Ax Men, they opened up for Logjam in 55'. A 6 piece all guitar group, not my thang but the had a moderate success with their hit "WEE OOO WEE OOO REER REER REER". You want to talk about a band lacking in the lyrical department look no further than The Ax Men. They basically tried to vocally mimic the sounds that their guitars were making. Their best stuff was when they would "sing" a counter melody instead of just doubling the guitars. It's said that if they would have had an "Electric Jug" in the band they would have had actual success but that would have violated their all guitar policy.
Any Hoooo
Seriously R. Folks
June 13, 2009 at 8:23 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
Go local team and Logjam!
June 15, 2009 at 7:58 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
Come on Gwen. I know you got some Logjam stories.
June 16, 2009 at 9:17 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
josiesbar (anonymous) says...
Good news seriously!
I've heard that Microsoft, in an effort to increase marketshare, and spread the word about the cult-hit Logjam, is releasing a limited-edition Logjam Zune! I'm saying that Apple's stock will drop by a MINIMUM of $40/share the day this wonderful piece of music history is released! Did you feel the earth shaking last night? It wasn't a major storm, it was Steve Jobs pooping a brick!
June 16, 2009 at 4:19 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
The video game maker of Guitar Hero was trying to develope "Electric Jug" Hero and were in the testing stages when it was discovered that too many kids would get severe lip cramps and the profit wasn't worth the law suits. Logjam are just too good for their own ................... um ........... good.
Seriously R. Folks
June 16, 2009 at 6:22 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
josiesbar (anonymous) says...
Man I wish I could get to sleep! Seriously, this is for you (and anyone else who wants to listen to Logjam)
http://www.amazon.com/Stumped-Logjam/...
Yeah, I'm REAL bored.
Matt
June 17, 2009 at 5:06 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
josiesbar (anonymous) says...
Logjam's moron opus is an overflowing bathtub of genres, jokes and double-stacked trombone parts. Hi/lo-lights include the metal boogie thunder of "Back on the Bike," the trucker speed stomp of "The South Will Rise (Again)" and the pure rock spectacle of "Blame it on Rio." There's even two unsolicited BONUS TRACKS! As if that wasn't enough, special guests like Jennifer O'Connor (Matador Records), Mauri von Corri (World/Inferno Friendship Society), Steve Burns (tv's Blues Clues), The Unkown Guitarist and The Playboys of the Western World are all on hand to make it a dysfunctional family affair.
June 17, 2009 at 5:11 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
That's a great band but not the same Logjam. The "original" Logjam tried to sue this band when they came out but because of a mishap, with a goat, at the trial they lost and had to change their name to Logjam Classic but die hard fans such as myself still just call them Logjam or just jam if were not in mixed company.
Seriously R. Folks
June 17, 2009 at 8:32 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )