Palin has acquitted herself
Phil Dillon, Emporia
Monday, August 10, 2009
SARAH PALIN HAS become a national lightning rod. Media outlets of all stripes have joined the feeding frenzy. Pundits and comedians have weighed in. Most of the opinion has been, to put it delicately, decidedly negative.
David Letterman, late night folk hero/comedian, joked about Palin’s 14-year-old daughter being “knocked up” during the seventh inning stretch at Yankee Stadium. Some bloggers claimed that Trig Palin, the Palin’s developmentally disabled son, wasn’t Sarah’s child, but the illegitimate son of their daughter.
Maureen Dowd, Pulitzer Prize winner and plagiarizer-in-chief at the Gray Lady, is now dedicating columns, including a mock diary, to the former governor. Gail Collins, one of elite America’s intellectual giants, has also chimed in. Todd Purdum of Vanity Fair has picked up the hatchet.
Now even The Emporia Gazette, having smelled the blood, has jumped into the already shark-infested waters with the rest of the predators. In a recent editorial, titled “Sarah Palin Spreads Confusion,” Patrick Kelley opined, “Commenting on her resignation announcement is sort of like reading a 1,000-word essay written by an average fifth grader.”
What is it about Sarah Barracuda, anyway? The Gazette seems to believe she spreads confusion as if it were a 21st-century plague. It makes me wonder if there aren’t other scourges of humanity that we can hold her singlehandedly accountable for.
The common cold? The swine flu pandemic, perhaps? Global warming? 9-11? Has she polluted all of this nation’s rivers and streams? In some past incarnation was she the party responsible for spreading bubonic plague, smallpox, or leprosy?
If this is so, I say the media bloodletting should continue until the sins are atoned for and the gods of the airwaves and newsrooms are appeased. If laying her on some public altar in the manner of the ancients and gutting her like a sockeye salmon will do, then by all means, “Let’s do it!” The only caution I can recommend is that the one who picks up the first sacrificial knife had better be without sin.
One of the things that often comes with the bloodletting is the clichés.
“If you can’t stand the heat, Sarah, get out of the kitchen.”
“You brought this on yourself.”
“Whaddya expect, politics ain’t beanbag.”
The more I read and hear them, the more I’m reminded of a cliché that actually fits. In one scene of Clint Eastwood’s classic western “Unforgiven,” a young gunslinger who calls himself the Frisco Kid has just gunned down his first man. As he sits contemplating his dark deed, he rationalizes as he takes a swig of rotgut whiskey. “Well, he had it comin’ to him.” He passes the bottle to William Munny, played by Eastwood. Munny gulps deeply from the bottle, wipes his mouth and snarls in a gravelly voice, “We all got it comin’ to us, Kid.”
Now that’s a cliché Sarah Palin’s detractors would do well to ponder.
What is it that bothers so many people about her? Some say it’s because she didn’t get the proper education. I mean, anyone should know that community college in Alaska and the five years it took her to get a bachelor’s degree in journalism certify her as an idiot.
Anyone worth his intellect should know that a lower 48 education is far superior, particularly if it’s from an elite institution. Never mind that many of them have become indoctrination factories, owned and operated by petty little men and women who amuse themselves by cavorting around in frocked robes and mortar boards. Never mind that the Wharton School, Stanford and other citadels of American learning and integrity are sending morally bankrupt graduates into the business world faster than the regulators can keep up with them.
Could it be her pedigree? Is she too much the commoner? After all, government is for the elite among us. Shouldn’t politics solely be the realm of the lawyer, the citizen emeritus, the blue-ribbon community benefactor or the well-connected business person?
God forbid that a commoner, a vulgar one at that, gains a foothold in the halls of power. Don’t give her an inch or she’s liable to take a mile. Could you imagine what might happen if she were to actually succeed. Why, the next thing you know, uppity garbage collectors, cops on the beat, firefighters, factory workers, waiters, waitresses and other assorted riff-raff might start believing they could do the same thing, And, we couldn’t have that, could we?
Then there’s the big elephant in the room — Trig. Could it be that a lot of this vitriol stems from Sarah Palin’s decision to bring a Down’s syndrome child to full term? Trig Palin is alive and kicking and that doesn’t fit the mold of the enlightened. Here in the 21st century that’s got to be the functional equivalent of blasphemy.
The list of grievances against Sarah Palin is probably endless, and each grievance is deemed to be rational, enlightened, heartfelt and full of the milk of human kindness. It may be closer to the truth to say that they’re all about hate covered by a cloak of self-assumed respectability.
Where will Sarah Palin be in 2012? In 2016? In 2020? I don’t know and I’m not sure if it really matters in the grand media machinations, anyway. I’m assuming I’ll be around in 2012 for The Gazette to inform or enlighten me, but I’m not so sure about 2016 or 2020. By then I’ll be pushing the outer limits of the actuarial tables or daisies.
I do suspect, however, that, to this point, Alaska’s first lady has acquitted herself well. She’s matched wits with the high and mighty and at least held her own. In fact, I think she’s done at least as well as the average fifth grader.
I’m not sure I can say the same thing about her critics.
goodoleboy (anonymous) says...
"I do suspect, however, that, to this point, Alaska’s first lady has acquitted herself well. She’s matched wits with the high and mighty and at least held her own. In fact, I think she’s done at least as well as the average fifth grader."
Not sure I understand your logic here, she continues to speak about matters either she does not care to understand or just plain cannot;
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/...
She is kinda of like a fish out of water, humerous and sad at the same time.
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August 10, 2009 at 3:54 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
create (anonymous) says...
I don't understand what you're getting at here. Too much fluff and cliche.
Is this some kind of defense of Sarah Palin? You're defending a quitter?
A real woman, a real go-getter, a real hero of the people would have stayed the course and remained in the governor's office to finish out her term. By quitting, she let down the people of Alaska who believed enough in her to vote for her. Quitting is not good governance. And she was considered vice-president material?
August 10, 2009 at 4:29 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Doug (anonymous) says...
Yeah, a real woman would keep excepting tax payer money while she's in DC shmoozing for a position like the Bimbo from Kansas. Or how about Pelosi seeing swastikas in town hall meetings. Let's just keep going after Palin cause the jerks in DC are really on our side.(not!) You people amaze me!
August 10, 2009 at 4:37 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jtsmelser (anonymous) says...
To the reader who commented, "She is kinda of like a fish out of water, humerous and sad at the same time": Before you jump on the bandwagon of people criticizing Sarah Palin as uneducated, ignorant, or just plain stupid, you would do well to learn how to spell. It's "humorous," not "humerous." And yes, it might be cute and casual sounding to say, "kinda' like," which would be a contraction of "kind of like," itself a colloquialism, but "kinda of like" would have to mean "kind of of like" which is, well, some might say uneducated, ignorant, or just plain stupid. It was probably just a typo. But if I give you the benefit of the doubt, you might be so generous as to give Sarah Palin a bit of credit. After all, she has successfully run the state of Alaska! And you have done exactly what?
August 10, 2009 at 4:39 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
admireed (anonymous) says...
Nice writing Phil. Hunker down because the bricks are ...well you know.
August 10, 2009 at 4:45 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
shoehorn (anonymous) says...
This is commentary from BizzyBlog.com
Sarah Palin’s right, as usual — Also at Hot Air, this time in the Green Room from Legal Insurrection (bolds are mine) –
(Palin’s) critics, however, didn’t take the time to find out to what Palin was referring when she used the term ‘level of productivity in society’ as being the basis for determining access to medical care. If the critics, who hold themselves in the highest of intellectual esteem, had bothered to do something other than react, they would have realized that the approach to health care to which Palin was referring was none other than that espoused by key Obama health care adviser Dr. Ezekial Emanuel (brother of Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel).
…. Put together the concepts of prognosis and age (as bases for determining whether someone is worthy of care), and Dr. Emanuel’s proposal reasonably could be construed as advocating the withholding of some level of medical treatment (probably not basic care, but likely expensive advanced care) to a baby born with Down Syndrome. You may not like this implication, but it is Dr. Emanuel’s implication not Palin’s.
August 10, 2009 at 4:49 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Lolll (anonymous) says...
Palin’s 14-year-old daughter being “knocked up”. enough said about Palin's ability to run her own house.
Amazing lines from the article:
“If you can’t stand the heat, Sarah, get out of the kitchen.”
“You brought this on yourself.”
“Whaddya expect, politics ain’t beanbag.”
August 10, 2009 at 4:51 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
rbmorgan (anonymous) says...
It is obvious that this writer is a Palin supporter. I have also heard a few (not many) liberals comment that she has "held her own" while she is interviewed or engaged in public speaking, but I have to disagree with that assessment. I find her to be poorly informed and she seems to have failed to do her homework. I don't hate her, but am glad she wasn't elected, as I think we need intelligent people in government who have done their homework on the important issues we face together. What I find most upsetting is her tendancy to divide rather than unite people. I found her comments like "real Americans" to be offensive and pandering to the far right.
August 10, 2009 at 4:51 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
goodoleboy (anonymous) says...
"To the reader who commented, "She is kinda of like a fish out of water, humerous and sad at the same time": Before you jump on the bandwagon of people criticizing Sarah Palin as uneducated, ignorant, or just plain stupid, you would do well to learn how to spell. It's "humorous," not "humerous." And yes, it might be cute and casual sounding to say, "kinda' like," which would be a contraction of "kind of like," itself a colloquialism, but "kinda of like" would have to mean "kind of of like" which is, well, some might say uneducated, ignorant, or just plain stupid. It was probably just a typo. But if I give you the benefit of the doubt, you might be so generous as to give Sarah Palin a bit of credit. After all, she has successfully run the state of Alaska! And you have done exactly what?"
Grammar police? LOL! This is in an informal blog; people here quite often do not use proper grammar. We won't know how successful she was as governor because she did not finish her term, and I can tell you, from what I saw Alaska was not doing so well at all when she resigned. The state gets more earmarks than any other and when the price of oil fell things up North went south.
Better stop playing Grammar Nazi start reading up more, the is a blog, not Comp I
August 10, 2009 at 4:58 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
I wonder if she is even human?
August 10, 2009 at 5:19 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
shoehorn (anonymous) says...
In what way have things fallen off in Alaska?
August 10, 2009 at 5:41 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Doug (anonymous) says...
Don't worry goodoleboy is not right, he is extreme left.
August 10, 2009 at 6:13 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
sunnie109 (anonymous) says...
Does Palin ever use common sense when explaining anything? This woman yaps about in and everything without any rhyme or reason.. She opens her mouth and idiotic statements come out.. Please Palin read legistation for better understanding and open a book or two every now and again.. Truly Unbelievable, this woman..
August 10, 2009 at 6:14 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Know1 (anonymous) says...
http://truthiest.blogspot.com/2009/08...
John Edwards Exposers Catch Sarah Palin's Adultery.
While still married to her husband Todd, Sarah had and extramarital affair with Todd's former business partner, Brad Hanson, according to the National Enquirer. The Enquirer is the same paper that caught politico John Edwards cheating.
SARAH PALIN LOVER REVEALED!
In a world exclusive The NATIONAL ENQUIRER names GOP VP Candidate Sarah Palin's secret lover!
No less than three members of the man's family including one by sworn affidavit have claimed that Sarah Palin engaged in an extramarital affair with husband Todd’s former business partner, Brad Hanson.
Sarah Palin's silence on affair deafening
Lack of threats and insults from Palin speaks volumes
For someone who's responded with rage and venom to an endless stream of ethics complaints and any other perceived slight, Sarah Palin's silence about a reported affair she had speaks volumes.
http://truthiest.blogspot.com/2009/08...
Sarah Palin Must Disclose Gifts, Bribes, Secret Emails.
The State of Alaska has ordered quitter Sarah Palin, no longer governor with any power to intimidate state investigators, to fully report all gifts, discounts, emails made doing state business through private email accounts.
Alaska tells Palin she must disclose discounts, gifts
In one lingering issue, the Alaska Public Offices Commission has refused Palin's request to keep secret the discounts that come from her husband's Arctic Cat sponsorship. APOC also said Palin needs to disclose all the gifts she received last year, rejecting her interpretation that she doesn't need to until after she gets around to actually opening the gifts.
Palin has told APOC "there are boxes of unopened mail at this point, even mail that was delivered in 2008."
Palin's gone, but her e-mail and gift issues live on
AFTERMATH: Yahoo use and discounts are among leftover topics.
August 10, 2009 at 6:18 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
goodoleboy (anonymous) says...
"Don't worry goodoleboy is not right, he is extreme left."
Try browsing my post history before you make assessments, you'll find that to be dead wrong. But by all means keep tossing labels and assuming, it's a big part of what caused the current imbalance in government.
August 10, 2009 at 6:26 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
I bet some of you would feel better if you could just throw some dirt clods at Palin while she tried to shield her handicapped child from the damaging blows. Perhaps you can dream about it tonight and it will make you giggle in your sleep.
August 10, 2009 at 6:35 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
methusla (anonymous) says...
Have any of you ever heard of " handlers " or " Speech Writers " and how many of you think that even one public politician bothers to gather information, bothers to know whats really going on or bothers to write their own speeches . Such is the world of politics and politicians in todays world ! A public appearance and speech by a politician, now-a-days, is all a put on theatrical production as is every speech, debate, filibuster, etc., that takes place in the hallowed halls of Congress and the White House !
This is just my opinion, but I see no form of sincerety in any of the politicans or politics in todays political world !
August 10, 2009 at 6:38 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
goodoleboy (anonymous) says...
I will say one thing about Palin, before she was a VP candidate she was a very effective governor. She had bi partisan support with that came the ability to effect change in Alaska, this was her strong suit and what put her on the map. When she was tapped as the VP candidate she went off the reservation towards the right end of the spectrum and lost all her support, thus negating everything she had accomplished and burning bridges. Now people only see her as a far right loon, which she may or may not have been from the start. Either way the bridges are burnt she has made her bed, but based on the lack of thought put into her recent comments I am content to believe she is willing to sleep in said bed.
PS. I read the new healthcare bill, single spaced it is around 450 pages, and not near the leviathan people make it out to be, and if I can do it and know what she said is wrong, then surely she has the time now to have had someone explain it to her. There are a lot better places to attack this legislation than where she did.
August 10, 2009 at 6:39 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
That's true methusla but some people just want to hate and Palin's there so why not.
August 10, 2009 at 6:41 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
emporiauser (anonymous) says...
Actually, Palin DID do her best to promote global warming and pollute this nation's rivers and streams.
http://www.cjr.org/the_observatory/pa...
More to the point, journalists criticizing Palin need have no fear of the same treatment, for three reasons.
They're journalists and not politicians.
They use correct grammar and she does not.
And unlike the journalists, the woman simply does not know what she is talking about, from getting foreign policy experience from proximity to Russia without ever visiting, to "real America," to honoring the troops by quitting her job, to "death panels."
Her education, money, jobs, and decision to bear Trig have nothing to do with it, and we don't want to throw dirt on her or mock her children. We just want to make sure she never governs us.
Her style of ignorant, divisive fear-mongering is trying to make the Republican party into a new Know Nothing Party, and it won't be good for the party or the nation if she succeeds.
August 10, 2009 at 6:53 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
shoehorn (anonymous) says...
If I remember correctly, the comments from Palin regarding relations with Russia were because of the treaties affecting the fishing industry.
August 10, 2009 at 7:04 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
shoehorn (anonymous) says...
I am under the impression that all (15 at my last recollection) complaints against Palin have been dismissed without merit.
August 10, 2009 at 7:16 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
biscuitboy (anonymous) says...
goodoleboy......on these boards, any one that does not march in lock step with the extreme right is automatically marked as being extreme left. I guess that's easier than having to think and come to your own conclusions.
August 10, 2009 at 7:21 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
shoehorn (anonymous) says...
In pdf form, the bill is 1018 pages.
August 10, 2009 at 7:23 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
cyberspace (anonymous) says...
Sarah Palin is her own worst enemy. The media feeds on her because she gives them the material! She rambles in her incoherent speeches which are nowhere near what she states she is going to talk about. The thought of this woman becoming President is frightening. The fact that she is even being mentioned as a Presidential candidate is evidence that there is segment of the populace whose intellect has to be questioned. If she is anything, she is a shining example of hipocrisy! Examples include her out of wedlock grandchildren and her own personal infidelity. This ruins her integrity completely.
August 10, 2009 at 7:24 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
shoehorn (anonymous) says...
The daily kos itself (that is a left leaning news source for those of you who don't know) says that there is nothing in the 98 page court filing that even hints of some extramarital affair. Do yourselves a favor and educate yourselves on the issues.
August 10, 2009 at 7:35 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Bryant (anonymous) says...
Liberals are haters. She is now a private citizen and you STILL can't leave her alone. Let's see..you've attacked her family, spread unsupported rumors, spend more time on her clothing than her beliefs, and sewed her out of office with frivolous lawsuits..and you still want more of her.
Palin divides us? Have you checked Obama?
August 10, 2009 at 8:16 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...
Way to go Phil,
I predict 384 posts on this article.
Can't we all just get along?
August 10, 2009 at 8:20 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
admireed (anonymous) says...
354 will be bricks
August 10, 2009 at 8:27 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
don't you mean dirt clods? ;)
August 10, 2009 at 8:35 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
tbluma (anonymous) says...
YEAH PHIL Your detractors just don't have a clue.
sunnie if you replace 3 words in your rebuttle you'd have it right. In case you don't know how I'll tell you, replace the word Palin with barry and the word woman with man and she with he.
Lolll when was the last time you blasted any of your friends for having a daughter who had a child out of wedlock? I'd really like to go to your church and see about throwing the first stone. IF YOU GET MY DRIFT But I suppose if it's a liberal we just get an abortion and nobody knows that it ever happened, ie barry and sebelius, ie pro choice. The liberal way would be no grandson and no downs syndrome child.
Know1 same ol sh~!@#t diferent day. If it really happened what makes the diff? If it was a liberal you'd make excuses.
You know what I think Phil?
By the time the people that don't agree with you and me wake up it's going to be to late.
They are going to be hungry, tired, scared and at last wondering why they supported the the aholes that we've got now that are leading down the same path as Russia, Germany, China and many other countries that have failed.
GOD BLESS AMERICA
August 10, 2009 at 9:04 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
gabby (anonymous) says...
Great article Phil Dillon...and, tbluma, I agree with you. How hypocritical to call Sarah Palin a quitter, when the Governor of Kansas, up and left the state of Kansas to go to Washington.
I don't remember hearing about the Alaskans complaining about her being a "quitter"..for stepping down as Governor of Alaska, or about our Governor being a "quitter." Maybe we should mind our own business about Alaska.
It takes a lot of b*lls to criticize Sarah Palin, and her speeches, when we have a President that can't order lunch without a teleprompter. We all saw last week, with Prof. Gates, how well Obama does without having scripted words.
This man is President!!!!.....He was a senator for just months before he was nominated, but he still kept his senate seat, and collected his senate salary, until he was elected President......and, he voted "present" most of the time, while in the senate...because he couldn't commit to a yes or no..(I guess that's another case of not having notes and a teleprompter! )
Sarah Palin introduced her family, with all their issues, to the world, and made no excuses for anything, when she ran for Vice President. How many of you could do that?
President Obama didn't do that..He said his family was "off limits." Everyone respected that...but, then I guess that's because he doesn't have anything to hide, or be ashamed of in his past.
So now....she's not in political office...and you still go after her. Could it be that you are afraid she just might run for political office?...Well, I guess I can understand that..because, you should worry...she could win.! ...Yeah, sure, ya betcha! :-)
August 10, 2009 at 10:45 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
tenor73 (anonymous) says...
My favorite palinism is the one about Obama's "death panel". Can she really believe what she says?
August 10, 2009 at 10:48 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
open_eyes (anonymous) says...
biscuitboy, in this country, in much of the media, in universities, "any one that does not march in lock step with the extreme left is automatically marked as being extreme right. I guess that's easier than having to think and come to your own conclusions."
Sounds familiar......
Funny how the studies show (I've posted the link in the past) that conservatives are more likely to read news from differing viewpoints - liberals are more likely to only get their news from sources that support their viewpoint only.
"People with stronger party affiliation, conservative political views, and greater interest in politics proved more likely to click on articles with opposing views, according to the Ohio State study.
….....Among the political blog readers, a similar trend emerged in which “liberals read almost exclusively liberal blogs, but conservatives tend to read both,” Davis said."
Now what was that you said about being easier than having to think and come to your own conclusions?
August 11, 2009 at 12:27 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
goodoleboy (anonymous) says...
"I don't remember hearing about the Alaskans complaining about her being a "quitter"..for stepping down as Governor of Alaska, or about our Governor being a "quitter." Maybe we should mind our own business about Alaska."
In less than a year her approval ratings went from over 90% to barely 50%, Alaskans were speaking loud and clear about their thoughts on her. Our governor actually did quit because she was asked to go on to a higher calling in public service, at this point Palin has no direction or real purpose, other than make more foolish statements.
August 11, 2009 at 1:22 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
goodoleboy (anonymous) says...
"In pdf form, the bill is 1018 pages."
Yes is it is, but as I said, SINGLE SPACED it only amounts to approx 450 pages. Even double spaced at 1018 pages it does not take long to read if one is so inclined.
August 11, 2009 at 1:26 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
goodoleboy (anonymous) says...
"If I remember correctly, the comments from Palin regarding relations with Russia were because of the treaties affecting the fishing industry."
Somewhat true, but how she extrapolated about it you would think it was military intelligence.
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/...
August 11, 2009 at 1:30 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
biscuitboy (anonymous) says...
Anybody that marches in lockstep with any extreme positions forfeits the right to think for themselves open_eyes....and becomes a danger to society. But on these boards there are many more right lock steppers marching than left ones.....so on these boards the right lock steppers receive more of my attention. But I have also been critical of left lock steppers as well.....remember sundancekid and bisquikboy.
tbluma......"other countries that have failed"......the last I heard China was poised to overtake us as the major economic power on earth....and at the end of the Bush administration China owned much of our debt. That doesn't sound like failed to me.
August 11, 2009 at 3:20 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nmse_s (Shannon Standard) says...
It's so easy to judge others when you're hiding behing a computer, the privacy of your own home and the ability to fake your identity.
August 11, 2009 at 3:54 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
biscuitboy (anonymous) says...
nmse_s
Your post is so very true...now ....what was your name again?....I'm sorry...I didn't catch it.
August 11, 2009 at 6:15 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
shoehorn (anonymous) says...
tbluma......"other countries that have failed"......the last I heard China was poised to overtake us as the major economic power on earth....and at the end of the Bush administration China owned much of our debt. That doesn't sound like failed to me.
Yeah. I especially like the freedom of speech they enjoy. Failer can mean many things. I do believe that if you divide economies by population, we still seem to be doing a little bit better than China at the moment. You might also want to check how much more of our debt China has picked up recently.
August 11, 2009 at 6:18 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
shoehorn (anonymous) says...
goodoleboy, you're right. Keeping in mind that Palin was the VP candidate, Joe Biden was the logical choice for level headed and rational positions and statements. lol
August 11, 2009 at 6:26 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
under_score (anonymous) says...
Anyone unfamiliar with these boards will find that many people who are most likely less intelligent than Sarah Palin, [goodoleboy, biscuitboy, create], like to pretend otherwise. That is something you will find with Liberals. They feel as though the "fact" that they are "open" to so many things like abortion, god is not real, man-made global warming is real, etc that they are smarter than everyone else.
For instance, the same people who bash Sarah Palin for everything tend to forget a lot of the very stupid things that Obama has said. Sarah would have been crucified for some of the things Obama has said. I won't go into them as they have been stated on here several times by open_eyes but goodoleboy, biscuitboy, and create know what they are even though they choose to ignore them.
As I've said before, I'd have no problem with people criticising Sarah if they applied the same standards to Obama. This is something they refuse to do so I will continue to call them out on it. Just once I'd like to hear them say that he isn't qualified to be president, and I'm not talking about his birth certificate or lack thereof, I'm talking about his lack of experience.
Someone on here said, I think it was goodoleboy or biscuitboy, that it's too early to judge Obama as president. How long did you give Sarah Palin prior to judging her?
Welcome back under_score. Thanks, good to be back.
August 11, 2009 at 6:43 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
under_score (anonymous) says...
Chuck Norris has spoken:
http://townhall.com/columnists/ChuckN...
August 11, 2009 at 6:49 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
biscuitboy (anonymous) says...
What qualifies Chuck Norris other than being a washed up actor?
August 11, 2009 at 7:03 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
biscuitboy (anonymous) says...
shoehorn....Individual economic wealth says little about the economic power of the country....and that's what we are talking about.
August 11, 2009 at 7:20 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
biscuitboy (anonymous) says...
The difference is we have hugh amounts of debt to sell off.....and did so even before Obama became prez....they have surplus capital to buy it with...nuff said.
August 11, 2009 at 7:23 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
biscuitboy (anonymous) says...
under_score....Before you go getting to proud of your self, please identify one word I have written about Sarah Palin on this thread...be it positive, negative, or neutral.
All of my very limited comment on this thread has had to do with right-wing ideologues. And speaking of which...welcome back....I've missed your tunnel-visioned view of things. But as is often the case with ideologues you write more about what you think you see than what is actually there.
August 11, 2009 at 7:39 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
goodoleboy (anonymous) says...
under_score,
Thank you so much for proving to everyone here what I have been saying all along, you do your kind oh so well and only serve to further alienate others like you into extinction, and now to dissect what you said for everyone's entertainment.
"Anyone unfamiliar with these boards will find that many people who are most likely less intelligent than Sarah Palin, [goodoleboy, biscuitboy, create], like to pretend otherwise. That is something you will find with Liberals. They feel as though the "fact" that they are "open" to so many things like abortion, god is not real, man-made global warming is real, etc that they are smarter than everyone else."
Calling the others and myself you listed liberal simply because you do not have the ability to comprehend others that can think in 3 dimensions is pretty funny, if it was not so pathetic. I and the others you have mentioned time and time again have embraced principles on both sides of the spectrum. Its funny you mention God and abortion in such close context, it’s very telling as to why you wish to force your beliefs on others. Global warming is something I hope you are right on, even though science says otherwise, I’d be exuberantly happy to be wrong and apologize on that one. And finally, if IQ was the deciding factor in placing people in society all our problems would be solved right? We all choose different paths, the problem is that people such as Palin chose poorly, and while that is their right, it also opens them up to criticism, you know? Free speech and all?
"For instance, the same people who bash Sarah Palin for everything tend to forget a lot of the very stupid things that Obama has said. Sarah would have been crucified for some of the things Obama has said. I won't go into them as they have been stated on here several times by open_eyes but goodoleboy, biscuitboy, and create know what they are even though they choose to ignore them."
Open_eyes, like all of us, has been wrong at times, and last I checked this article was about Sarah Palin, not about Obama, if you feel the need to compare and contrast so badly, then by all means write start a thread or write an editorial instead of hijacking threads.
"Someone on here said, I think it was goodoleboy or biscuitboy, that it's too early to judge Obama as president. How long did you give Sarah Palin prior to judging her?"
Sarah Palin quit, but she also was in office almost 3 times longer than Obama has been. It IS too early to judge Obama, even the Fox News people can agree on this, again you comparisons have no merit and are unfounded.
Welcome back under_score, your comedy was sorely missed
August 11, 2009 at 8:10 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
I started a thread on Obama and very few showed up.
Anyway back to the story. Did everyone have sweet dreams about throwing dirt clods at Palin and her children? Could you hear her scream as they hit her hands as she protected Trig's little handicapped temple from the deadly blows? Or was it one of those silent dreams where it was all in slow motion and surreal? Hey, either way I bet it made you wake up with a big grin. Right?
August 11, 2009 at 8:23 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
biscuitboy (anonymous) says...
My dream was a slapstick comedy about Sarah Palin throwing clods at her self as she rushed to self-destruct..... due to the pressure she was never capable of handling. And that was the reason I did not want her to be a heart-beat away from the presidency.
There under_score...I finally said something about Sarah Palin.
August 11, 2009 at 8:30 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
This thread is to direspect and demonize the human being Sarah Palin if you would like to discuss Obama I have provided a link to a new thread dedicated to all things Obama. Enjoy and be nice ............... to Obama of course not Palin.
http://www.emporiagazette.com/forums/...
August 11, 2009 at 8:35 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
Did everyone cheer when they read crackinsack's post? Bet you did.
August 11, 2009 at 9:03 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
open_eyes (anonymous) says...
Quite possibly the reason blogs from the "right" outnumber those from the "left" on here often is because the regular writer of many articles (Pat Kelley) ALWAYS wrote from the point of view of the left. Since there was usually about 50% of the story somehow....... omitted............. as I've said before, being an unpaid fact researcher for Pat wasn't very financially rewarding - LOL.
August 11, 2009 at 9:18 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
open_eyes (anonymous) says...
Sometimes I wonder..... if crack's parents feel "blessed"..... :)
Standard crack disclaimer: Just kidding, of course :)
August 11, 2009 at 9:26 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
goodoleboy (anonymous) says...
"Quite possibly the reason blogs from the "right" outnumber those from the "left" on here often is because the regular writer of many articles (Pat Kelley) ALWAYS wrote from the point of view of the left. Since there was usually about 50% of the story somehow....... omitted............. as I've said before, being an unpaid fact researcher for Pat wasn't very financially rewarding - LOL."
I would credit it more to the demographic here, if there was a right wing columnist everyone would likely fall in line. If Mr. Keely accomplished one thing it was to get people to think outside their own perspectives.
August 11, 2009 at 9:30 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
goodoleboy (anonymous) says...
"Sometimes I wonder..... if crack's parents feel "blessed"..... :)
Standard crack disclaimer: Just kidding, of course :)"
Probably as blessed as Coulter's or Garafalo=)
August 11, 2009 at 9:33 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
"If Mr. Keely accomplished one thing it was to get people to think outside their own perspectives." I think that is what crack is trying to do.
I bet there were more cheers for crack's last post. Right?
August 11, 2009 at 9:38 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
create (anonymous) says...
under_score,
Back to baiting are we? You're a master at it.
I consider it a compliment to be grouped with biscuitboy and goodoleboy, two who consistently offer solid, level-headed thinking based on fact not conjured up notions. I always thought we three were more moderate thinkers than any one side of the range of thought. You'll have to read more carefully.
I can't help but think back to the McCain town hall meeting during the campaign when that woman stood up to say that Obama was a Muslim. He could have allowed her idea to stand and just move on, but no, instead, he corrected her and told her firmly that she was wrong. I gained immediate respect for him as a result.
You remind me of that woman, under_score, willing to believe the masses without thinking for yourself.
At any rate, welcome back. Your appearance contributes to the ying and yang of it all.
August 11, 2009 at 9:46 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
No crack it is apparent from the posts in this thread that there are many who feel as you do about the Palins. Many times you were left alone to fight your cause but not this time. Many other posters would walk hand in hand with you to sling some mud at the Palins. It's not often that you have people that you see eye to eye with like you do here. I say enjoy it.
August 11, 2009 at 9:50 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
under_score (anonymous) says...
goodoleboy,
You like to tell everyone how independent and deep and multi-dimensional you are but the majority of what you write on these forums gives you away. Saying it enough times does not make it so.
Regarding my views on god as related to abortion, as usual you've put 2 and 2 together and came up with 5.
I don't think anyone could argue the warming trend on the earth, what people argue is man-made global warming. Two very different things. Also, if you look at the past you will find various warming and cooling trends. Was man responsible for the exit from the last ice age? How many tons of carbons were those cave men pumping into the atmosphere?
I know you would love to sit around and bash on Palin without me bringing up your unqualified pick for President but it ain't gonna happen. Especially when it comes to the way that Palin has been treated by the media. Events don't happen in a vacuum and it is perfectly fair to compare and contrast the way the Democratic media handles Republicans like Palin and Bush with how they treat Obama.
I don't give a crap what Fox News says. I can judge Obama on what he has done so far and on what he has said he intends to do. And I say they are the wrong way to go.
August 11, 2009 at 9:53 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
gabby (anonymous) says...
I joined the forum because I do have opinions about certain things, and enjoy the debate with people that have intelligent opinions...whether they agree with me or not....
I am a registered independent, and did not have an easy time making my decision on how to vote in this election.
I was not sure of Sarah Palin, when she was first introduced as a VP candidate by John McCain, but after listening to her,for quite a while, I decided that I liked her..not just as a private person, but as a political candidate, I have decided to support her in both categories...(unless, or until, I see or hear some other reason to change my mind).
However, I have been reading the posts on this forum by some of the regulars..and, I am disgusted!!.. and, crapinsack you put the final nail in the coffin for me and this forum....
Some of the posts are filthy, disgusting, vile, and insulting, to me...as a woman, and I'm done. I can only hope some of you are not my neighbors, or acquaintences, or even people I do business with.
Crapinsack.. I am ashamed to say it, but I did see about 5 minutes of the disgusting Joan Rivers filthy roast the other night, and, was embarrased watching it....I did not see what was said about Sarah Palins daughter, but I promise you had I seen it, I would not have laughed about it, or posted it on the forum, for others to have a good chuckle over.
and...seriouslyfolks, I don't really know how to take you sometimes..I don't know if you are serious or joking, but your little dream remarks, whether to be funny or serious, make me not want to admit I am part of the Gazette forum.
Am I taking this personally?...Well maybe, because I am a woman, that has worked all my life, raised children, who are adults with kids of their own, and, a husband, and sons that served in the Military, and are proud of it....
I care about my country enough to fight for it, and do what I can to make it better...even if that means just speaking out....Yes, I am for free speech, but, some of you try to hide your classless, filthy remarks in sexist, partisan, intelligently written (?)posts.
Had you written the same kind of things about Hillary Clinton, Michelle Obama, or their children...I would have said the same thing.
There's only a few people on this forum that post to offend..but, the sad part is you have a forum to express yourself in such disturbing, insulting ways.
Looking at the dates and timestamps on these forums, I think maybe some of you should take some time to get sleep...Posting 24/7 can play with your straight thinking sometime.
Crapinsack....YOU are worthless...and, your name discribes you perfectly.
Thanks everyone...it was fun, for a while!
August 11, 2009 at 9:57 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
under_score (anonymous) says...
crackinsack, you obviously don't have children. If you did you would know that each one is a blessing, regardless of ability.
August 11, 2009 at 10:02 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
gabby (anonymous) says...
seriouslyfolks....I am not sure about you...I just read your post to Crap...and, if I am wrong, I apologize to you...and to anyone else that has not gone as far as Crapinsack and a few other in the insults, and, offensive remarks that are made to do just that...offend! and insult!...
I won't respond to any posts anymore...so have at it!
August 11, 2009 at 10:09 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
create (anonymous) says...
gabby,
Good grief, girl, stop already. Listen to something I often quote on here, then make up your mind.
"When you always agree with others, that becomes your prison. Choose your jailers carefully."
When you give up the good fight, you're lost. Now take a deep breath, let some wind into your sails, and tack. If not, you'll be stuck in the doldrums, never moving. Who wants that?
You know what, gabby? There was a time in this country when a woman's opinion wasn't worth snot. Nobody cared what she thought or if she even thought at all. Unfortunately, even some women believed they weren't capable of thought outside of changing diapers and making soup. Wanna go back to that? You would if you give up here.
Of course you don't agree with everything you read on this forum. If you did, I'd question your sanity.
Now c'mon, get those sails filled.
August 11, 2009 at 10:23 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
Gabby
I was trying to point out how venomous people are being. Of course I did it in my own unique Seriously R. Folks sorta way so I can see how it could be taken the wrong way. I also pointed out how some people who usually disagree with crack and his tactics are now more similar to him(on this subject anyway) than they probably care to admit. Sorry if I offended you. I didn't mean to.
August 11, 2009 at 10:30 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
under_score (anonymous) says...
crackinsack,
You won't be anonymous much longer. Prepare to be exposed.
August 11, 2009 at 10:42 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
open_eyes (anonymous) says...
I've said it before, and to repeat myself, I truly do enjoy reading the points of view of goodoleboy, biscuitboy, create, and a few others who pretty consistently have a point of view from "the left". As my point of view is pretty consistently from "the right". Just because I disagree doesn't mean that an opposing argument can't be level-headed and well-put (well, they're not ALWAYS, but then again, neither are mine - LOL) but NOBODY is right 100% of the time, certainly not me either (and there are others as well I respect and argue with, can't name them all, apologize for that). Just as I appreciate the input from those who's thinking aligns more with mine. I certainly don't want anyone to "give up the good fight", because once either side just rolls over and plays dead..... well, we know what Washington does once they have the opposition sufficiently marginalized. We've seen it in the last administration, and we're seeing it now.
gabby & create, I think we've seen in this country, according to many organizations.... the true measure of a successful, smart, independent woman all comes down to one thing and one thing only. Are you pro-life or pro-choice? (The following sarcastic comment has already been deleted by the writer of this same blog).
It is interesting that the first 2 posts to this article were in direct opposition. It would have been interesting to wait and see how long it took for the first poster to post an agreement with the article, instead of a disagreement with the first 2 posters..... :)
What did all that I just said mean? Not really sure..... just some idle musings........ :)
August 11, 2009 at 10:52 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
open_eyes (anonymous) says...
This aricle was about Minn gove Pawlenty, but it tracks the approval rating of 13 governors: Their average: 41%.
http://blog.lib.umn.edu/cspg/smartpol...
I couldn't find (in my hurry, busy) where all ratings were put side-by-side for comparison, but there are links where you can click on each individual (too time-consuming to do all 50). Sebilius's rating was 46% before her move to the cabinet.
From what I've seen of the approval ratings of Obama, Congress, and other governors.... I would say being in the 50's still puts you near the top these days. Sadly.
August 11, 2009 at 11:05 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
goodoleboy (anonymous) says...
under_score
“You like to tell everyone how independent and deep and multi-dimensional you are but the majority of what you write on these forums gives you away. Saying it enough times does not make it so.”
I can go back and quote myself on a variety of topics if you like, I would stop while you can, one can only backpeddle so fast. You only see black and white, when the world is shades of grey.
“don't think anyone could argue the warming trend on the earth, what people argue is man-made global warming. Two very different things. Also, if you look at the past you will find various warming and cooling trends. Was man responsible for the exit from the last ice age? How many tons of carbons were those cave men pumping into the atmosphere?”
And I ask you simple cause and effect comon sense, do you really think that the billions of people that exist upon this earth will not have negative effects upon if we continue our current path? I am well aware of the history of our planet, it has fascinated me since I was a child. What you fail to realize is that comparing what we are doing to history is not possible, because never before have a species existed on this planet that has had the effect that humans have. Sure there are trends, but what about what WE as humans contribute to that equation? It’s a completely logical conclusion that we will impact our envoirnment, the only question is how bad will the consequences be.
August 11, 2009 at 11:33 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
goodoleboy (anonymous) says...
cont....
I know you would love to sit around and bash on Palin without me bringing up your unqualified pick for President but it ain't gonna happen. Especially when it comes to the way that Palin has been treated by the media. Events don't happen in a vacuum and it is perfectly fair to compare and contrast the way the Democratic media handles Republicans like Palin and Bush with how they treat Obama.”
Palin continually brings it on herself, she made the comments about “death panels” this disproved at factcheck.org. She riles people up with her comments then tells them to behave at town halls after she has done so. Hypocrit? I expected a lot more intelligent comments from her after she resigned, seems like she still fails to grasp what is needed to be taken seriously. I have said it before and I’ll say it again, it’s the same with kids growing up, ignore those that bother you and they will eventually lose interest. It’s the same with her and the media, if she could follow that mantra and not be such a drama queen the media would have backed off her long ago, yet she just fans the flames. Hijacking a thread and trying to make it about Obama instead of defending Palin makes you look desperate, and it only serves to strengthen those that you disagree with.
“I don't give a crap what Fox News says. I can judge Obama on what he has done so far and on what he has said he intends to do. And I say they are the wrong way to go.”
And just what has he really done so far? Pass a stimulous that is still in its infancy? There is not a whole lot to judge currently, any rationale person knows that any policy changes and or decisions will take a great deal of time to filter down, this country is not a sports car, its an aircraft carrier. Your so concerned with what “he intends to do” that it is clouding your judgement. It is just not practical in any, way, shape, or form to quantify a president’s peformance 8 months in, especially with what he inherited. It’s not excuses, it’s not bias, that is just the plain facts of it.
August 11, 2009 at 11:34 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
shoehorn (anonymous) says...
Posted by biscuitboy (anonymous) on August 11, 2009 at 7:20 a.m.
tbluma......"other countries that have failed"......the last I heard China was poised to overtake us as the major economic power on earth....and at the end of the Bush administration China owned much of our debt. That doesn't sound like failed to me.
Posted by biscuitboy (anonymous) on August 11, 2009 at 7:23 a.m.
The difference is we have hugh amounts of debt to sell off.....and did so even before Obama became prez....they have surplus capital to buy it with...nuff said.
That's just too funny! China makes up about 20% of the world population, we account for around 5%. Painting our debt as a commodity is a real hoot as well! keep it up, I need a good laugh every now and again.
August 11, 2009 at 11:54 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
shoehorn (anonymous) says...
Posted by YY4U (anonymous) on August 11, 2009 at 11:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Republicans have a hard time trying to understand complex concepts explained to them by educated people.
Genius is taking the complex and making it simple. Stupidity is taking the simple and making it complex. I don't care how much spin you try to put on anything, crap is still crap. One other thing, this isn't about "republican" or "democrat".
August 11, 2009 at 12:03 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
YY4U and crack getting along beautifully. Hatred for Palin can bring folks together like nothing else. It warms the heart.
August 11, 2009 at 12:04 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
shoehorn (anonymous) says...
Hey, wait a minute! I thought someone posted earlier that Palin was devisive? lol
August 11, 2009 at 12:06 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
chunkymonkey (anonymous) says...
I assume-goodoldboy- that you won't be giving obama credit for any turn around in the economy yet-since he hasn't been president long enough to judge? - Thank you former pres. g.w. bush for putting it on track before you left office. It's taken a little longer than expected to come around, and we still have a ways to go but it will work its way out with help from the american people.
the second stimulus was a waste since they have only used about 10% of it.
you're right goodoldboy we should give B.O. more time to dig a deeper hole. thank you Mr.president bush for getting the country on track before B.O. took over, and for arranging to bring the military out of Iraq before you left office. Oo! pres.bush- did I thank you for getting the government spending on the road to hell so B.O. could have a good start and an excuse to spend us into literal oblivion so that our kids and their kids and their kids can learn responsibility as they grow older and pay off the debts that B.O. and his pals in congress ran up for them. I'll leave it for them to thank this admininstration themselves when they start paying taxes.
before I forget-thank you to goodoldboy- for helping me to see that we are giving far to much credit for anything to president B.O. since he hasn't been in office long enough to take credit for anything yet.
August 11, 2009 at 12:10 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
chunkymonkey (anonymous) says...
it took me so long to read what goodoldboy wrote that I forgot this was about sara palin. Here I was complaining about netloaf. and others for being so longwinded and off topic last week and here I am doing the same. I should have said BANG! or bla bla bla
August 11, 2009 at 12:19 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
under_score (anonymous) says...
goodoleboy,
Why would I backpeddle? You are a left wing nut to even the most casual of observers. I'm sorry you don't have the ability to recognize that. I'm sorry to tell you, you are a liberal. Humans certainly have an impact on the planet and I am all for cleaning it up and doing the right thing. But not at any cost. I would be fine with you and others believing in the man-made global warming farce as long as you didn't try to push your false beliefs off on me. Sound familiar? I thought so.
Obama continually makes an ass out of himself as well. Does the media attack him for it or let him get by? By the way, I'm fine with them letting him get by with making the mistakes that he's made. He is actually being treated the way Sarah Palin should be treated and how President Bush should have been treated.
Obama doesn't ignore the media, so far he's attacked or had someone else attack anyone in the media that disagrees with him. Again, why is Palin held to a different standard? Is it because she is white? A woman? Pro-life? What is it? You can be truthful with us, we're all friends here. :)
He passed a stimulus that hasn't stimulated anything that was sold as a quick fix to the economy. So far as I can tell the only thing that has had any positive effect on the economy is the bank bailout from last year. And that will have long term consequences on inflation and/or taxes. Taxes may not bother you but I'm sick and tired of paying 1/3 of my wages to people like you with not so much as a thank you.
You're welcome though, your internet access probably came out of my pocket.
What he intends to do is pretty damn important to me. What should I do, wait for him to implement his plans prior to taking a stand? What sense does that make?
YY4U, speaking of second grade mentality.
August 11, 2009 at 12:23 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
open_eyes (anonymous) says...
crack, if we can get Bono to write a song about it, will they listen to him for sure?
Will "they" be reassured that the health care reform won't impact their opera/ballet performances if some Hollywood actor or actress supports it?
In other words, did someone roll out of bed this morning with (once again) their nose so high in the air from their typical ignorant stereotypes that they couldn't find their shoes?
August 11, 2009 at 12:39 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
I think people need to remember that this is a discussion on the deep seated hatred people have for the human being Sarah Palin. Some of you are getting off topic. Let the hate continue.
August 11, 2009 at 12:48 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
open_eyes (anonymous) says...
Right you are, seriouslyfolks.
I've often wondered...... since people seem to think Palin continually is "running after the media"...... it has seemed to me that it is actually the other way around. By some's own admission here they've seen 4 times as much coverage as Palin as anyone else, it seems to me the media just won't let her out of its sights. And every word, gesture, nuance is ripped to shreds asap. Again, I question..... who is constantly chasing after who? If she started truly shunning all invitations, interviews, appearances, etc...... would the media let it die? Or would they then trump it as more evidence of "quitting", or "crawling back under a rock"?
Damned if she does, damned if she doesn't........
August 11, 2009 at 12:56 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
chunkymonkey (anonymous) says...
I'd say Im sorry seriously. but create told me its a sign of weakness. I did get a bit longwinded and off topic.
I find it fascinating that sara palin isn't even in office anymore and she can stir up so much emotion.
August 11, 2009 at 1:01 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
open_eyes (anonymous) says...
And if you Google Obama and factcheck.org..... you'll find many inaccuracies there as well.
Does Obama "continually bring it upon himself" also?
August 11, 2009 at 1:06 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
goodoleboy (anonymous) says...
Shoehorn
"That's just too funny! China makes up about 20% of the world population, we account for around 5%. Painting our debt as a commodity is a real hoot as well! keep it up, I need a good laugh every now and again."
Debt is our number one export, it IS a commodity!
August 11, 2009 at 1:12 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
goodoleboy (anonymous) says...
under_score
"Why would I backpeddle? You are a left wing nut to even the most casual of observers. I'm sorry you don't have the ability to recognize that. I'm sorry to tell you, you are a liberal. Humans certainly have an impact on the planet and I am all for cleaning it up and doing the right thing. But not at any cost. I would be fine with you and others believing in the man-made global warming farce as long as you didn't try to push your false beliefs off on me. Sound familiar? I thought so.
Left wing nut am I? You can take your sorry and shove it, I know where I stand and thats all that really matters, I could disprove your very statement with a few hyperlinks, the problem is it would do no good, your stuck in your ways, incapable of change and what little contempt I have for you is now pity.
But yes I am a rural resident, so on behalf of myself and the others that live around me, thank you for my internet... oh wait I pay my taxes too, but your so giving I'll let you take the credit=)
August 11, 2009 at 1:17 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
goodoleboy (anonymous) says...
chunkeymonkey,
Sound logic indeed! With your keen observations I am sure you could tell which came first, the chicken or the egg?
August 11, 2009 at 1:20 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
Dang you guys keep getting off topic. Come on. I'll try to refocus the conversation. If you could kick Palin in the shin would it be the left or the right? Nobody try to say both you sneaky rascals.
August 11, 2009 at 1:25 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
goodoleboy (anonymous) says...
Godd article I read last year on American debt as our chief export:
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/art...
and I'll tie it back into Palin by faulting her for having too many earmarks
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washingt...
I tell you, if Emporia was in Alaska our visitor's center would have a roller coaster!
August 11, 2009 at 1:31 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
open_eyes (anonymous) says...
She would have made a GREAT VP for Obama: (Steve_Corbin, borrowing your post to put it over here if you don't mind - from the link I posted on the "Obama: Super Groovy" thread... ):
Howard Stern's man interviewing voters in Harlem about who they would vote for, and if they were really informed of the issues.
"The question was asked What do you think of Obamas pick of Sarah Palin as vice president?" "Do you think it was a good pick, could she do the job?"
Witout hesitation, the three answered he did a great job picking her as his vice-president running mate.
(Guess Jesus told them so during the NASCAR race, right?)
LOLOLOL
August 11, 2009 at 1:33 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
open_eyes (anonymous) says...
The article on earmarks was just written a few months too early, goodoleboy. Bridges to nowhere are suddenly all the rage. Nowadays it is referred to as "stimulating the economy". You need to get with the times! :)
August 11, 2009 at 1:38 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
goodoleboy (anonymous) says...
She was doing it before it was cool though!!
August 11, 2009 at 1:43 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
open_eyes (anonymous) says...
Ahead of her time!!!!! A real visionary!!!!! LOL :)
August 11, 2009 at 1:54 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
She surely is the first politician to spend money irresponsibly, just another reason for fantasizing about ringing her neck. Right?
August 11, 2009 at 1:56 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
goodoleboy (anonymous) says...
A maverick for sure!
August 11, 2009 at 1:57 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
No, Maverick was that other guy who went from being an American war hero to being hated by most. But seriously this is about letting out your hatred for Sarah Palin the alleged human being. Perhaps if we let it out it will no longer consume us.
August 11, 2009 at 2:07 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
open_eyes (anonymous) says...
Obama: Pork Happens
http://goodgovernmentga.blogspot.com/...
And yeah, Alaska has the highest per-capita earmarks, but not the highest total. Maybe it has something to do with it being nearly 2 1/2 times the physical size of the next largest state, being less developed currently than other states, and all that oil - there's just so much acreage to build bridges in!!!!! LOL
August 11, 2009 at 2:20 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
under_score (anonymous) says...
I just got back from my afternoon workout. I had some time to think about Gabby's post and she is right. I have at times been over the top and intentionally inconsiderate to others. It's easy to do when you are anonymous and you don't have to look people in the eyes. Hopefully I have not been as offensive to others as crackinsack and YY4U have been on this thread. If I have I truly apologize.
crackinsack, I won't out you. But emporiagazette should really fix the issue with their send user private message option. It errors out and gives a lot of information away to someone with the skill set to use it for the wrong purposes.
I find that I keep coming back here not to be informed but to argue with the same people about the same thing day in and day out. Both sides are set in their beliefs and certainly have legitimate reasons for believing what they do. I will no longer be visiting or posting on this site.
I do believe that the people on this forum are generally good people. seriously and open_eyes, I have enjoyed siding with you in the "discussions" on here and I will miss them in large part due to you guys' observations.
create, I don't really believe that Obama was not born in Hawaii. I did enjoy getting a rise out of people for something that was so far fetched. I know how irritated I got from a lot of the things that were said about Bush and Cheney so I thought I'd give you guys some of your own medicine.
Take care all and good luck.
p.s. I wouldn't expect to hear back from bizquikboy any time soon either.
August 11, 2009 at 2:30 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
open_eyes (anonymous) says...
Aw, shucks, under_score, all of us here get a little hot under the collar at times. I know I still do, but I also can look back and (hopefully) say that I've learned to respect others and keep it contained better than I did when I first started posting here. And I think that pretty much everyone reaches, sooner or later, that level of "enlightenment" (with the possible exception of crack, but I'm still hoping she eventually catches sight of herself in a mirror someday. But doubtful).
Also, as I've often said, at times it may seem like just the same old (no age discrimination-type statements implied) posters here wrangling back and forth, but...... more read this (I know) than what post here. Sure, I love to debate (obviously) - bit I also enjoy simply "putting some info out there" since much of our media seems to pick and choose what THEY deem as "newsworthy" - a particular pet peeve of mine in our current times. I always enjoyed Paul Harvey's "The Rest Of The Story", and always had fun filling in the regularly-missing blanks for Pat's 1/2 articles :) I suspect many of us debating here actually DO learn something we didn't consider, weren't aware of, or grudgingly agree with - we just don't like to publicly admit it here (me included) - LOL
It's an information/disinformation war out there. As the joke goes, the soldiers stormed the last stronghold of the enemy, and once breaking in, demanded that they "hand over the Internet", or something like that..... LOL
August 11, 2009 at 4:21 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
goodoleboy (anonymous) says...
I think this could be an attempt at humor, Palin quits, now under_score quits? The skeptic in me thinks its a ploy, if not then via con dios, blogs are pretty harmless, as long as you don't take them too seriously( and we all have at times), but they are what are, and one thing is a given. We will never all agree=)
August 11, 2009 at 4:31 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
open_eyes (anonymous) says...
Here's something we can agree on, goodoleboy. You stated that I've been wrong at times. Well, I'm about to make a statement.......
"Palin is an idiot".
There! Proof I'm not always right!!!!! LOLOLOL :)
August 11, 2009 at 4:38 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nmse_s (Shannon Standard) says...
Posted by biscuitboy (anonymous) on August 11, 2009 at 6:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)
"Your post is so very true...now ....what was your name again?....I'm sorry...I didn't catch it"
You have a good point yourself biscuitboy, but do recall that I casted stones NEITHER for or against Mrs. Palin. Just making a point on how some folks judge others, when truly we cannot judge, none of us can or should without proper justification. We do it quite often, myself included. We just need to be mindful of it.
August 11, 2009 at 4:42 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
create (anonymous) says...
Awwwwww. So you're not coming back huh? At least not using your current monicker anyway. Like I said before, you're a baiter, and a master at it. Before long, we'll pick you out of the crowd. It's all in the voice.
August 11, 2009 at 4:46 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
open_eyes (anonymous) says...
When someone is called "a baiter, and a master at it"....... is that implying what I'm thinking it implies?????
Shame on you, create! - LOLOLOLOLOLOL
August 11, 2009 at 4:50 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
goodoleboy (anonymous) says...
/gasp @ open eyes
Feeling a little ornery are we?
August 11, 2009 at 6:23 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
Has the well of hate finally run dry? It surely has been awhile since anyone has made a post spewing with venom towards Palin. Good, I'm glad we got that out of our systems. Now lets go drink some koolaid.
August 11, 2009 at 6:34 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...
Grape is my favorite flavor.
Ever since They stopped making Nehi.
Seriously?
August 11, 2009 at 8:12 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
tbluma (anonymous) says...
Crack are you really that scared of someone knowing who you really are?
August 11, 2009 at 8:15 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
open_eyes (anonymous) says...
Don't worry. Some news org will ride a snowmobile for hours, snowshoe thru the wilderness, get on a boat and go out in the bay to track her down and ask her about the latest National Enquirer article claiming she once had affairs with Elvis Presley and Charles Manson......... and then she'll be accused of running after the media to insert herself into the spotlight yet again - LOL
August 11, 2009 at 8:20 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
Steve
I kinda like orange soda myself.
Seriously R. Folks
August 11, 2009 at 9:22 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
eldiablo (anonymous) says...
Sarah Palin...
*shutters*
August 11, 2009 at 9:50 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
open_eyes (anonymous) says...
Would declining an interview make you a quitter?
I remember some "if you can't stand the heat, get out of the oven" remarks concerning this........ it looks like the "heat" is getting to quite a few politicians at these town hall meetings...... their response seems to be more like don't allow anyone in the kitchen that might turn up the heat..... :)
August 11, 2009 at 10:36 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
open_eyes (anonymous) says...
Sorry, get out of the kitchen, not oven is the correct term..... but in this case....maybe oven IS more correct..... :)
August 11, 2009 at 10:39 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...
"She can always decline the interview."
Unless they do something like this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHaq1P...
August 11, 2009 at 11:36 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
goodoleboy (anonymous) says...
I find it pretty hard to believe that if one was an outdoorsmen, or woman in this case that they could not hide or at least lose the media in such a place as Alaska, to be honest I think it would be a pretty good time toying with them.
August 12, 2009 at 7:14 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
glarson (anonymous) says...
To a forum:
http://www.emporiagazette.com/forums/...
August 12, 2009 at 7:27 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
create (anonymous) says...
Open_eyes,
To quote one of my favorite television characters, Sergeant Schultz, "I know nothing!"
Back to Sarah Palin, I found this in my news stuff this morning. Her reference to the proposed health care bill as having a "death panel" is sheer poppycock. Also, the article contains quite a number of good Q and A's that dispell popular misinformation about the bill.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090811/a...
August 12, 2009 at 7:31 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )