irishemporia (anonymous) says...

That makes sense, Erica. Blame the folks who simply wanted a healthier Emporia instead of the lazy and rude who have proven once again that they have NO respect for their fellow human beings. Sounds to me like the bars need to do a better job of policing their customers.

August 3, 2009 at 2:32 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

yev_kassem (anonymous) says...

Why don't you just call the cops and report it?

Urinating in public is a crime.

Have you tried talking to the bar owner?

And once again, is it the commissions fault for drunks throwing their butts in your yard and urinating in your yard or is it just maybe the people doing the act?

August 3, 2009 at 2:32 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

irishemporia (anonymous) says...

Or better yet, tell us the name of the bar and I will be happy to ask the city to step up patrols of the area to catch these criminals. Apparently the offenders don't understand that you can't trade one filthy habit for another.

August 3, 2009 at 2:34 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

admireed (anonymous) says...

Collect all the butts in your yard and Saturday night dump them on the bar top.

August 3, 2009 at 2:36 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

yev_kassem (anonymous) says...

irish--

I am not sure it is the bar's fault either, once they leave the premesis I think the bar is absolved of responsibility. But you are right, Erica needs to focus her frustration elsewhere.

**I did suggest that she may talk with the bar owner so that he/she could give his patrons a friendly reminder.

August 3, 2009 at 2:39 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

jcook66801 (anonymous) says...

Erica and others. Let me apologize for my fellow smokers, at least the ones who have no respect for others and their property. Please understand that most of us are not happy with the ban. However, most of us are also capable of respecting others and their property. For those of you who insist on defiling the property of others, please stop. You are only making it harder on the rest of us, including bar owners, patrons and neighbors. If you feel you must use this as a method of protest, might I suggest you take your business to one of the smoking bars still operating in the county.

To Erica, let me also encourage you to contact the bar owner and the authorities and lodge a complaint about this action. You should not have to be subjected to the inconsideration of a few morons.

August 3, 2009 at 2:45 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

There is more than 1 bar located next to housing in Emporia crack, so don't assume.

To Erica,
If you are talking about Town Royal, call me, I haven't heard anything like this before.

As a club owner in Emporia I hope you do talk to the business management and express your concerns in a polite but forceful manner.

While they can't be held entirely responsible for the customers actions after they have left the business, they may be able to remedy the problem without police action.

If they cannot or refuse to do so, then filing a police report may be the only alternative. I hope this can be resolved with your neighbor as the police do have a lot on their plate.

And others here: Don't lump all smokers smoking outside a bar with the few that Erica is having a problem with.

August 3, 2009 at 3:43 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

generalsn (anonymous) says...

Here in Chicago, many small neighborhood bars eliminate this problem by ignoring the ban. Our ban is over a year and a half old, so the fanfare and novely are fading into forgotten history. The bars ignoring the ban have had NO complaints. No one wants the problems.The patrons smoking in the bar are bothering absolutly no one.These tobacco control activists never actually enter the places they are so eager to control.

August 3, 2009 at 3:48 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

what comming next?

A google earth link showing the property?

August 3, 2009 at 4:16 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

create (anonymous) says...

What is the matter with you, crack? You have no business revealing where you think this woman lives. She was stating her opinion. Attack her opinion, yes, but trying to track her down physically and revealing her location is just plain vicious.

August 3, 2009 at 4:50 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

All of you pro smoking ban, control other peoples lives and way of living as well as bussinesses and business owners. You have managed to open opend a varitable pandoras box of problems, not just for individuals but for businesses, business owners and the City of Emporia and now you have the audacity to not want to take any responsiblity for the problems you and you alone have caused.
TYPICAL holier than thou, controlling attitude !

August 3, 2009 at 5:07 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

netloafer (anonymous) says...

Create

I agree. I think if I were the poster of the original piece I might consider getting some legal advice. I realize that the poster invited comment, both good and bad, but I don't think she bargained for a clear invasion of privacy. There was absolutely no reason whatever for crackinsack to do something so mean spirited.

Gwen Larson

I know that these forums can get rough and tumble, but what crackinsack did was way out of line.

I have no idea if the original poster has any legal options, but this is one of those things the Gazette should censure with more than a "comment removed by Gazette staff."

August 3, 2009 at 5:13 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

I agree completely.....crackinsack...have you absolutely no shame. Because this woman had the temerity to speak negatively about you precious smoking ban....you have the unmitigated gall to out her to the very smoking drunks you obviously hold in such low esteem.

You have crossed all bounds of good behavior on here. The Gazette would be in it's moral right to out you and see how you like it...but I'm sure they won't stoop to your level.

August 3, 2009 at 5:21 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

p.s.

I am not a smoker!

August 3, 2009 at 5:23 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...

I'm guessin' it wasn't smoking that led to the type of behavior that Ms. Stevens is refering to.

August 3, 2009 at 5:39 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

Good point seriouslyfolks and crack all that helping your neighbor talk is just so much bull s--t. She didn't ask for your help....I'm totally certain she didn't want the "help" you gave her. If she had wanted everybody in town to know her address she would have put it on her letter.

Why don't you tell the truth for once in your life and admit you were wrong. Does your boss.....Mr Sauder....know what you've done yet.

August 3, 2009 at 6:27 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

chiefsfan (anonymous) says...

I agree with everyone about what crackinthehead did, posting the letter writer's address. If she had wanted her address listed, she would have had that as part of her letter, along with the bar's name. There was a reason she left that out. If someone was nosy enough to investigate where she lives than so be it, but it was wrong to post it here. Hopefully, the gazette staff will remove that part of the comments so the fewer the people who see it, the better.

August 3, 2009 at 6:29 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

Crack, please read the rules concerning "People Speak", believe one is that you STATE YOUR NAME!!!(Be signed) Again, please be informed before you "jump in". Guess "CAE" didn't do a very good job training you! Plus, the author states that she DIDN't have this problem BEFORE the ban. Now, as a smoker, I am not condoning what was done just as I didn't condone the "No" smoking signs be removed BEFORE the election, please, don't group ALL smokers into one category just as I will try not to group all non-smokers in the same category as you and state they were ALL involved with stealing the signs!
We MUST realize that THERE are some people out there that have "No Common Sense". (Gee, hope I used the correct "There"! ) lol

August 3, 2009 at 7:10 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

meanmom (anonymous) says...

I don't live in Emporia. I abhor cigarette smoke. I don't frequent bars, but it sure is nice to go some place public and not go home smelling like what those people smell like. No one makes smokers who have had too much to drink or are just nasty do the stuff these people do. Erica should not blame the smoking ban, she should blame imbeciles who show no common courtesy. Most smokers, not all, but most have no idea how gross they are.

August 3, 2009 at 7:38 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

Crack, instead of using the "sign" example, I COULD have used "posting another ones address/location", In reality, I was trying to be nice to you, but yet, still get my point across. Why? I don't have a clue other then an old saying: "Sugar attracts more then vinegar" and with past experience "talking" with you, that "stone wall" of a brain of yours doesn't seem to absorb right from wrong.

August 3, 2009 at 7:43 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

HEY MEANMOM;

Erica just stated her opinion on the smoking ban to the Gazette. No address just her name, She had the cajones to state her name.
Why did crackinsack feel the need to post her address?

Will you post your name and address?
Will cracky post its name and address?

No, because neither one of you have the balls to stand behind your statements like others on here.

Crack, as I don't know for sure who you are. I certainly don't miss your $60.00 per year in sales at my club. If you let me know who you are, maybe I could beg for your forgivness.
NOT

My dis- invite to you coming to my club was not because of my flip attitude towards your way of thinking, I just thought it was better to bar you than to deal with one of my NON-SMOKING customers kicking your butt.
Much like the other customer I barred for not learning the meaning of shut the f up.
You have your opinion, my customers have theirs. Don't come in and try to stirr them up because they are my regulars, you have not been and never will be. Until you have the "stones to identify yourself you are not worth responding to anymore.

August 3, 2009 at 8:04 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

hottopics (anonymous) says...

One person reports at what is happening to her since the ban took effect. Next thing we know its a debate just like before it passed. But we do need to address what is happening outside these establishments. YES! Can the police department patrol outside these places all the time? NO! Who is going to write littering and U. I. P. citations? Sounds like more voting may be headed our way.

August 3, 2009 at 8:30 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

gabby (anonymous) says...

Crapinsack...I keep telling you "you're full of it"...because you are! You bragged to me once that you were so highly educated....and, asked me if anyone in my family even went to college. Hmmm, apparently common sense101 wasn't one of your classes.

August 3, 2009 at 9:05 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

Erica,
My advice to you is, if you want to make any comments concerning the smoking ban, especially if it is anything negative about the smoking ban. Do so annonymously as there are those on this forum who will not respect your privacy at and will attack you and then make it seem like it is your fault, such as " crackinsack " and others .

August 3, 2009 at 10:15 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

goodoleboy (anonymous) says...

I suppose I"ll catch the 3rd degree, but here goes;

To all those that are jumping on Crack, I hate to say this but you are dead wrong. What he/she did was take the next logical step to determine where this atrocity was taking place. When you write an editorial and sign your name:

Erica Stevens

Emporia

How can one chastise a person for delving deeper into the issue and trying to shine light upon the problem. I say shame on you all for jumping on a citizen for taking the time to try and put a spotlight on what is going on. Clearly Mrs. Stevens should call the authorities upon witnessing this behavior, what bothers me is this not a "EFFECT OF THE BAN" rather there are individuals who are breaking the law and being very indecent. If one thing comes out of this article it is that I hope the attention that it has drawn gets the problem stopped.

I am not a fan of Crack, but this woman all but invited people to publicly look into her claim when she wrote this editorial, stop directing your energies at crack, and start directing them at the area and individuals who are responsible for this, she chose to NOT remain anonymous, stop acting like someone broke the forum rules, they are not applicable here.

Now flame away........

August 3, 2009 at 10:36 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

Good, God, you smoking ban zealots, you got what you wanted and now even that is not good enough for you. You force the smokers outside and now thats not good enough for you. Now you are complaining about a person throwing his butt out of his car window, etc.
If you want to complain about something. Why not complain about the lack of action by the police, etc., for not patroling more and writing citations for the massive amount of littering you say is being done by smokers. Better yet lets just declare '" MARTIAL LAW " in Emporia and put everyone under totalitarian rule !

August 3, 2009 at 11:23 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

goodoleboy, You are correct in the fact of responding to your entry. No, crack had NO right to display the area inwhich this person lives. These blogs, as to my understanding, are placed here for various "opinions" NOT in stating where that person lives.(Emporia could be anywhere inside or OUTSIDE
of the city limits.) That truly is up to the author to decide if she wants legal intervention. Now with her address known there could be TERRIBLE implications TOWARDS her and her children by the people that are doing such actions. Just by stating "Emporia" that could be ANYWHERE for we do have a number of bars with that address. Having written a "People Speak", YES! I would have been very frustrated to have my address out there for the "world" to see. Yes, she could have used a fake name, but in reality I beleave most people are honest when writing these articles and truly never FIGURE their address will be put out to the world.

August 3, 2009 at 11:29 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

Also, as was pointed out, would "crack" want his/her identity and address posted? I sincerely doubt. The author of this article must have felt secure that her location was. Also, please remember there could be others by the same name, for I know there are with mine and possibly yours if your name was known.

August 3, 2009 at 11:34 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

Those of you who feel the need to try and justify this action are overlooking one thing. Unlike this forum, Letters to the editor require your name. They do not require your address. Crackinthebrainpan took it upon herself to provide the woman's address for reason's ultimately only she will ever really know.

My guess is the woman did not call the police for the same reason she didn't give her address in the letter. When you call the police about matters such as this the first thing they do when they arrive on the scene is knock on your door thereby letting everyone know who narcked them out. Well she didn't have to wait for the police to do it.....ole crackey did it for her.
Why to go narc.....aka crack.

August 4, 2009 at 12:38 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

One more point......crackonthebrain......these people are not urinating on the poor ladies property because they are smokers.....they are urinating on her property because they are drunk....something you seem to know a lot about.

The drunks are outside urinating on her property.....rather than inside urinating in the urinals...or on the walls...or on each other....because of your smoking ban. So it is the ban's fault after all. So BooYa

August 4, 2009 at 7:26 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

I smoked for 40 years of my life before I had the will to stop....and I drank for about as long before quitting that also. During all of that time, smoking never once caused me to urinate in public.....nor did it ever cause my to curse loudly in public as part of my conversation. Drinking caused me to do both. Duh

August 4, 2009 at 8:05 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...

"they are urinating on her property because they are drunk" Exactly!
Right on biscuitboy! I smoked and drank for about 5 or 6 years and only did those thing while under the influence of alcohol. I never did such things when I was only smoking. I'd like to point out that I do not want and am not trying to get a ban on alcohol and neither is biscuitboy. Just trying to point out that this behavior isn't caused by the smokes.

Seriously R. Folks

August 4, 2009 at 8:23 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

gabby (anonymous) says...

I don't care which side of this debate you take, but no one should ever sign their real name to anything they post on a forum or blog, unless they're prepared for the consequences.....
But, if that isn't bad enough..good old crapinsack...has to fight back dirty and mean by giving out her address. Maybe it wouldn't be so easy to critcize crappy for doing it.. if he/she wasn't always ridiculing other people.
If I was afraid of "anyone" on this forum knowing my exact address it would be crapinsack.... And, I don't believe for a moment that he/she didn't know what he/she did was wrong!...He/she would rather have the fun of trying to humiliate or scare someone, and say he/she's sorry, than not do it at all.

August 4, 2009 at 8:39 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

fawn196166 (anonymous) says...

you go erica!!!!!!!!! i know where this woman lives and ive seen ppl urinating in her yard and i have called the cops but by the time the cops showed up the person/persons were gone....i even told them who these ppl nwere and what they were wearing..did they try to find the ppl...NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!...she has children and they cant even play outside with this crap going on....so please quit attacking her

August 4, 2009 at 8:50 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

It is no ones responsibility or fault that this womans address was blatantly spread before the public, but crackinsacks alone. The Gazette did not emblazen her address in bold type in the paper, it was crackinsack that took it upon herself to put this ladys address in the public eye. And crackinsack being the selfish, self-righteous, egotist that she is has no comprehension of what is right and what is wrong, only what she perceives as what is right and wrong in her world.
And whether the ban smoking zealots want to take responsibility for the ills and problems that have be-fallen certain businesses, businessmen and the City of Emporia, because of this smoking ban, it most certainly IS the fault of the smoking ban and the smoking ban zealots who supported and voted for the smoking ban !

August 4, 2009 at 9:43 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

crackinsack,
I see you neglected to include yourself in your little rant about attacking people, language used and name calling. Oh, and your little quotes after your attacks, language and name calling such as, " just kidding " or " it was only a joke " or " I was just joking " . Crack, most everyone on these threads can see right thru your little holier than thou charade and know exactly what kind of person you are, just from reading your obtusely, derogatory remarks and comments.

August 4, 2009 at 10:01 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

Oh, and just because someone blames the smoking ban for the ills and problems that have befallen the City of Emporia, businesses, business owners and individuals, doesn' t mean they are smokers. You really do hate people who smoke or people you perceive as smokers don' t you.

August 4, 2009 at 10:08 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

justthinkin (anonymous) says...

I believe everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Unfortunately I don't think I have ever agreed with crackinsack...... but I do pity the poor soul. It must be horrible to be so consumed with pure hatred and loathing., and the calling to belittle others. It is probably unhealthy as well. The trouble is, your hatred is effecting others - do we have a new problem here ?

SHH - Second Hand Hatred ?

... people who smoke don't make good decisions.... - OK, many of them would agree that the decision to smoke may not have been a good one, but to imply they are stupid is wrong. Crackinsack, you owe so many apologies to so many people, if you were 6 months old & lived to be 1,000, you'd never get them all said.

P.S. - I'm glad you are proud of your education, but your vocabulary (and the attempt to flaunt it) doesn't impress me.

August 4, 2009 at 10:10 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Bryant (anonymous) says...

Crack. I have no doubt you are on every discussion board there is. By looking at the amount of posts you have on here, you seem to have way too much time on your hands.

You should consider getting a job.

August 4, 2009 at 11:33 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Bryant (anonymous) says...

"I dislike people who don't think about how their actions impact others"

Example.....

Posting the address of a family, without their consent, so that anyone in internet world can see for themselves.

Nice one.

August 4, 2009 at 11:45 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Bryant (anonymous) says...

I call BS. You seem to be the type that lives with his mom and doesn't date much. The only enjoyment is playing playstation and pissing people off.

You obviously have a fragile ego. Even you have admitted to so.

August 4, 2009 at 12:05 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

Bryant and others,

Even when posting anoymously on here, crackinsack shows their many personalities. They can't decide wheather or not to bash you or agree with you. One minute you are an "un-employed know it all" , the next minute they are "just kidding". Who knows if crackinsack is male or female? It just depends on what personality is dominating at the time.

August 4, 2009 at 12:13 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Bryant (anonymous) says...

You are rationalizing your own behavior by blaming someone else. Its a classic defensive mechanism. You can't control what she does, you can only control what you do. And what you did, was dig in the phonebook and posted her families address so that the whole internet world can see. You neither asked her, nor did she ask you to do so.

I also call BS on everything else. By looking at the way you post, I'm pretty sure you live in a world full of delusions, low self-esteem and an incredibly weak ego. The has to be compensated by posted here, making yourself feel more important than you actually are.

August 4, 2009 at 12:36 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

"I dislike people who don't think about how their actions impact others."......You don't think much of yourself then do you crack?

For the moment I'll give you the benefit of the doubt...and will accept your claim that your outing this lady was totally motovated by your great compassion for somebody who had diss'ed your precious ban. I find that almost imposible to believe....but for the moment...ok. Then by now....assuming you have enough sense to find your rear end using both hands....you must have realized that it might not have been the most well-advised course of action. After all...by so doing....you might have exposed her to retribution from a class of people you have made very clear you consider sub-human.

Having done so.....a person as logical and intelligent as you present your self to be....might have given at least a tiny amount of consideration to an apology......if not for outing her but for not thinking about the risk and potential consquences.

But not our crackey....no sir not her. A person posting on another board yesterday said a person who never says they are sorry is self-righteous--self-centered--and probably lonely. Sound like somebody you know?

August 4, 2009 at 12:42 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...

I believe I tried to get you to forgive the smokers and let go of your grudge back during the whole smoking ban debate(back when it was relevant and something could actually be done about it). It's some advice I had to take myself, with you. Now when I don't agree with you(which is pretty much all the time) I can still appreciate your comedic delivery.

August 4, 2009 at 2:22 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

yev_kassem (anonymous) says...

Wow, crack sure is taking some heat. Alot of it deservedly so, as he/she brings it on themselves with the delivery of some of the comments.

I agree to an extent that anyone who wanted to know this woman's address would have little difficulty finding it, but that is not the point. I do think crack crossed the line by posting a direct link to make it easier for one to find.

Regardless, the discussion is now way off point. The point is that Erica was blaming the ban for other's actions. The ban and those who enacted it are not to blame. The people exposing themselves are.

How does she even know that they are smokers? They could just be heavily intoxicated individuals that got tired of waiting in line. Regardless of who, or why they chose to act this way, it is their action that is the problem, not the ban.

August 4, 2009 at 2:34 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

crack, there are a number of answers to your above statement. You, like Hitler, would like us to sit back and let you verse your crazy posting. I must admit, part of me truly believes you aren't worth the time of day, the other part," I have the same rights as you." and in reality, others who post are usually considerate and thoughtful of each other, NOT YOU! You truly enjoy the attention so I'll go with what was posted earlier and my own thoughts, YOU aren't worth the time of day when you so carelessly post someone address but not YOUR own. If you are a man physically, to that I have my doubts!!! There is a term that we have all heard at various times, where are yours?

August 4, 2009 at 2:39 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

Yev_Kassen, You state "not the ban"-please reread the original article. I believe she states this problem DIDN'T exist BEFORE the ban, but NOW does. If it was you and that was the case, what would you truly blame it on? Yes, smoking doesn't cause a person to act in such a uncivilized manner, but being forced outside, drunk or drinking, COULD.

August 4, 2009 at 2:53 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

yev_kassem (anonymous) says...

YY4U--

I don't think most on here are blaming the victim. I think most on here are blaming the individuals making the bad choices.

People are required and expected to follow all laws, not just the ones they agree with. The fact that these people are urinating in public has absolutely nothing to do with the smoking ban.

August 4, 2009 at 2:58 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

yev_kassem (anonymous) says...

sandman--

The individual is responsible for his or her own actions, whether that be smoking or drinking or urinating in public.

If the smoker didn't have to smoke, he wouldn't be forced outside in the first place. If he chose not to drink, he probably wouldn't have to urinate as bad, and if he didn't drink in excess he probably wouldn't make the choice to urinate outside while he was smoking. All of these are individual choices. Just because there is a law that says he can't smoke inside, it doesn't give him a right to not follow another law. It is all pretty logical to me. Follow the f'n rules!

August 4, 2009 at 3:03 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

Crack,
FIRST: What has this blog been concerning?
SECOND: Afraid you aren't the one "Not getting it"!
THIRD: Where is your name/address?
My question still stands!!!!!!!!!!!!!

August 4, 2009 at 3:16 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

open_eyes (anonymous) says...

Well, at least nobody acted like a crack*** and pointed out "BlueRay" is actually "Blu-Ray", or some other totally useless, meaningless and insignificant point, and then trumpeted it as proof of being superior ;-)

August 4, 2009 at 3:25 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

yev_kassen, Your response "If the smoker didn't have to smoke, he wouldn't be forced outside"-that explains alot! Afraid you sound like "crack" and being the "judge". In not knowing who you are, I would imagine there are things that you do that I would deam not necessary but do I have the "right" to be your judge? No and you and 8 people didn't think of the rights of other people, smokers! I try very hard not to affend you but NOW, have not been given a "CHOICE"! Yes, I go outside to SMOKE, which before I could do INSIDE
a bar and it wouldn't affect you unless you crossed that "Smoking" sign, which there WERE bars that were "No Smoking"..

August 4, 2009 at 3:39 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

open_eyes, you were missed!!! I've thought you might put your two cents here. Hope all is OK with you. Now! we need some of that "sense of humor"! (Before I hunt crack down and ring 'ITS" neck!!!)( I did say "ITS"!)

August 4, 2009 at 3:57 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

yev_kassem (anonymous) says...

sandman--

I am not judging you or any other smoker. You are getting very defensive over nothing.

The fact is, in Emporia, smokers are required to smoke outside. It is what it is.

So my statement that said "smokers have to go outside" (sic) was merely relating to the law as written.

The way I voted is of zero relevance on this article.

A woman has unforunately had to witness some rather disgusting acts by a few people. However, she is carelessly trying to blame a law that has nothing to do with the disgusting actions of others.

The law doesn't state that if you choose to smoke, you must go outside but you also must urinate in people's yards while doing so.

I am not so sure why that is so hard to understand.

August 4, 2009 at 4:04 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

yev_kassem
You state in your one post the following, " All of these are individual choices." Your are absolutely right, just like before the control freaks wanted and got a smoking ban. The people who hate smoke, smoking and smokers also had their own individual choices to not expose themselves to the alleged harmful side affects of smoking, SHS, and smokers, by simply not going into places that allowed smoking and smokers . But Nooooooooo they were not satisfied with having to use their brains and make a simple choice such as not to expose themselves to something they contend is deadly harmful. And yet these saintly people expose themselves to just as harmful and deadly polution and toxins everyday and yet deem these pollutants as necessary and beneficial. No, this is a perfect example of controlling, hateful people wanting and needing to control everything and everybody around them, and nothing else. Only difference now, is the fact that everyone who walks by a smoker who has been forced onto the side walks, etc., is exposed to the smokers, smoke and SHS.
Now by the smoking ban brigade having their way, they have managed to cause even worse problems for all the citizens of Emporia, which may be and probably are worse problems than smokers smoking indoors will ever be and the proof is in the pudding of the article that started this particular thread !

August 4, 2009 at 4:07 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

I can't say for sure, because I don't know for sure, but based upon the comments made by yev_kassem, I suspect that yev_kassem is a pseudonym for crackinsack !

August 4, 2009 at 4:12 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

Good Lord, what are we arguing about?

People are peeing in her yard. Doesn't matter what forced them outside to do it, they are doing it. If the business owner can't take care of it she needs to involve the police.

If one of her children sees someone urinating that could result in a whole different set of charges involving minors and exposure. Nothing will be done about it until she insists on pressing charges and appearing in court to testify. And if the cop on the beat refuses to do anything a prompt call to the shift commander or the chief should take care of it.

Bar patrons;
keep it in your pants please?

August 4, 2009 at 4:16 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

glarson (Gwen Larson) says...

To a forum:

http://www.emporiagazette.com/forums/...

August 4, 2009 at 4:43 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

Steve_Corbin, SUPER response!!! Must admit we DID get off track!!! But will admit I laughed concerning your last statement even though it was a very good point!!!! Sense of humor????

August 4, 2009 at 4:45 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )