Posted by madpoet (anonymous) on April 1, 2009 at 3:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I wonder how many outraged Lyon County voters they've had trying to vote on the smoking ordinance and being told they can't? I was mad enough to spit when I went in to vote against the sales tax to support the new aquatic park and was told, too bad, you can't vote on that. Pretty bogus considering Emporia is the only town of decent size in the county and most rural residents shop, work, eat out in Emporia.

Posted by Bjnemp (anonymous) on April 1, 2009 at 4:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sorry, madpoet. You forget: Emporia is basically a closed community run by a few financially privileged closed-minded elitists with no interest in catering to outsiders. That would include you, being an outsider from the county, and, but not limited to, immigrants, tourists, visitors, college students, and now, filthy, smelly, embarrassing low-lifes who smoke.

Joplin, Missouri was nearly identical to Emporia for decades. It was run and controlled by a small wealthy self-serving clilque that controlled city policy. Back during the 1950s, Joplin and Springfield, just 70 miles to the east, both had populations of roughly 35,000. Forty years later, Joplin was still an unfriendly backward town of 35,000 while Springfield, run properly by the forward-looking citizens with common sense and tolerance, was a bustling, vibrant, prosperous city of 250,000.

Emporia is in a rut of apathy and "good ol' boy" mentality.

The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth.

Posted by slvrnblck (anonymous) on April 1, 2009 at 4:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

BJ--

If Emporia is so bad with a "good ole boy" commission and backwards ideas.....why do you stay?
You have verbally bashed our city and our city government numerous times. It is apparent you don't like to be here, so once again, why do you stay?

Posted by seriouslyfolks (anonymous) on April 1, 2009 at 6:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

slvr
Are you seriously asking someone to move because they don't like something? Seriously!?!? LOLOLOLOL
I have suggested several times that people avoid shs if they don't like it and they act like I'm shooting their hamster with a 12 gauge. It is far easier to avoid shs than to pack up your whole life and move. WOW! My suggestion is somehow unreasonable but telling someone to move away is cool?Seriously?!?! LOLOLOLOL

Posted by seriouslyfolks (anonymous) on April 1, 2009 at 6:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

SERIOUSLY?!?! HAHAHA

Posted by slvrnblck (anonymous) on April 1, 2009 at 6:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

seriously--

2 completely different things.

BJ has bashed the whole town for as long as I have been on the boards. He apparently hates living here due to the "backwards" thinking that we all have.

SHS is a health issue. It affects everyone. Not just me, not just him, EVERYONE. If SHS only affected me it would be a completely different story.

Posted by USNretired (anonymous) on April 1, 2009 at 6:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Makes me want to move away.

Posted by oh4theluvof (anonymous) on April 1, 2009 at 6:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Got that serioulsy? You really need to understand that a disfunctional city government only affects Bjnemp, but the SHS you and I claim we don't currently encounter affects EVERYBODY (except us--we must not count). NOW do you understand???

..............I don't either...........................................

Posted by justamarine (anonymous) on April 1, 2009 at 6:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

slvrnblck you posted

SHS is a health issue. It affects everyone. Not just me, not just him, EVERYONE.

First off it is not a health issue it is a rights issue, Second who is everyone? I didn't think the bar owners did that much business, that everyone in and around Emporia went to these places. Maybe I should open a bar and get in on all this money that's flying around.
I think you need to ask the bus driver to move you to a different seat, because your sitting to close to Crack.

Posted by slvrnblck (anonymous) on April 1, 2009 at 7:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

USN--

As I have said BJ constantly is stating how much he dislikes Emporia. I never said that we have a dysfunctional government. That is Bj's opinion and possibly yours.

justamarine-

SHS affects anyone and everyone that is around someone who smokes. You could be affected by it daily or just every now and then. I would imagine just about everyone has been affected at one time or another by SHS.

To you it is a rights issue...to me it is a health issue. There are 2 sides to the debate, the rights side and the health side. Which is more important?

Posted by SFIns (anonymous) on April 1, 2009 at 7:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I remember that not that long ago the city was trying to create some type of buffer zone that extended outside of the city limits and city building codes were going to be enfored on county residences that fell inside this zone. I didn't follow that very closely but I find it interesting that people argueed back then that the city couldn't impose on them because they live outside of the city. Now county residents are trying to impose of city residents. Sounds like a double standard to me. Vote yes!!!

Posted by MisterO (anonymous) on April 1, 2009 at 8:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

madpoet posted, "I wonder how many outraged Lyon County voters they've had trying to vote on the smoking ordinance and being told they can't? I was mad enough to spit when I went in to vote against the sales tax to support the new aquatic park and was told, too bad, you can't vote on that. "

Don't worry, madpoet. You'll get your chance, because you're next. http://www.emporiagazette.com/news/2009/...

From the article, "- Lyon County Tobacco Free Coalition and Public Health Initiatives — Teresa Walters and Margi Grimwood."

Posted by Steve_Corbin (anonymous) on April 1, 2009 at 9:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

slvrblck;

Rights or health? because the health issue hasn't been proven in Emporia Kansas, I would go for th RIGHTS issue in Emporia Kansas. I am sorry to say that biased people such as yourself, (those who find smoking obnoxious), will knowingly give up a personal choice right , just so you can go home at night after a night on the town without smelling like a cigarette. You people deserve what you get, I just hate to suffer because of your short-sightendness,
Steve

Posted by seriouslyfolks (anonymous) on April 1, 2009 at 9:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

At least one of the ban supporters now admits that this is also a rights issue. I feel that the rights issue out weighs the health issue because the current laws and the fact that most businesses have already banned smoking anyway makes it very easy to avoid shs. With it being so easy to avoid is there really enough justification to take away business owners rights? I think not. I've read a lot of comments on here and on facebook from people who are voting yes and the majority of them seem to indicate that they want the ban for convenience more than health. I'm sorry to tell you but your convenience does not trump someone elses rights. Go to a smoke free place if you don't like smoke. Most places are smoke free so it is very covenient.

Other's rights trump your convenience. Vote NO!

Posted by Bjnemp (anonymous) on April 1, 2009 at 10:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Slvrnblk: Did you even read my post before attacking me? I didn't attack Emporians, I attacked, and I quote, "a few financially privileged closed-minded elitists with no interest in catering to outsiders" You know, people like you. I also frequently bash our ineffective and spineless city commission for caving in to special interest cliques like CAE. Of course, they are all buddies and socially intertwined, so who would expect less?

I am vocal and relentless in my criticism of things that go on in Emporia because this is my home and I have many good friends here. If I didn't care, I wouldn't speak up.

And as to your amazingly unAmerican and arrogant comment, "There are 2 sides to the debate, the rights side and the health side. Which is more important?", let me introduce you to a statement made long ago by a REAL American. He said, "Give me liberty, or give me death." Have you ever heard that? Do you comprehend what it means?

Gee. Patrick Henry, and millions of Americans since, believed that liberty (i.e. freedom, rights & choice) is worth dying for. Therefore, I have to believe a psuedo health issue pushed by a few elitist do-gooders would be considered by Patrick Henry or ANY clear-thinking American, or Emporia resident, to be FAR less important than being forced to give up liberties. So does that answer your question as to "which is more important, the rights side or the health side?"

At least you finally told the truth and admitted this is a rights issue. It was probably a regrettable slip on your part, but certainly a step toward reality and the right direction.

There it is for all to see. The pro-smoking ban folks consider their exposure to a little second-hand smoke to be more important than your rights. Or is it that they feel their narrow opinion is more important than your rights? Either way, Patrick Henry and his pals would be appalled to think what they created has come to this.

Vote your rights over their preference.

Vote "NO" on April 7.

Posted by driveonby (anonymous) on April 2, 2009 at 7:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

bjnemp- HEAR HEAR!!!!!!! You have said it all

VOTE NO

Posted by generalsn (anonymous) on April 2, 2009 at 8:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It's about time that someone gave the traveling ban lobbyists the boot. They frequently bring busloads of people from "who knows where" to rant and rave, disrupting important local affairs. Way to go.

Posted by slvrnblck (anonymous) on April 2, 2009 at 8:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I have said all along that some people view this as a rights issue and that some view this as a health issue. That is where the line has been drawn. I think that if I and others viewed this as only a rights issue, I would be there with you. I hope that if you all viewed this as only a health issue you would stand on my side. It is a matter of opinion on which side you think is right and thus the debate starts. We will finds out what the majority of Emporians find out soon enough. It is just 5 days away.

Posted by madpoet (anonymous) on April 2, 2009 at 8:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

April 7th can't come soon enough. I'm to the point where I want to scream every time I hear an ad (for either side) on the radio. And the huge ads in the papers, too, are getting over the top. Imagine if all the money spent on this ban was donated to Harvest House? They would have their grant match plus enough to feed the hungry for quite a while, I bet. I guess I just have different priorities than most.

Posted by methusla (anonymous) on April 2, 2009 at 8:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Bjnemp;

I concur with driveonbys, HEAR, HEAR !

VOTE NO !

Posted by 77flint (anonymous) on April 2, 2009 at 8:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by methusla (anonymous) on April 2, 2009 at 8:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

How can this be totally a health issue when the smoking restriction ordinance that is and has been an ordinance since 1987, clearly prohibits smoking in all public buildings, allows all businesses and business owners that cater to the public, to determine whether they want to choose to be smoking or non smoking by the simple placing of either a " SMOKING ALLOWED " or " ABSOLUTELY NO SMOKING ALLOWED UNDER PENALTY OF LAW " sign in a clearly visable location and does not force anyone to live according to someone elses beliefs, way of living or selfish desires and wants.
No, this is not a health issue. This is definately a loss of freedoms, rights, liberties issue. And is a selfish, power, and control issue !

VOTE NO !

Posted by seriouslyfolks (anonymous) on April 2, 2009 at 8:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It appears that 77flint is one of those folks that doesn't like something (these forums in this case) but is lacking in the ability to simply stay away from them. These forums are even easier to stay away from than shs and we know how incredibly easy shs is to avoid.
If you are concerned for your health and feel that shs is unhealthy, please stay away from it. You will quickly see that this ban is unnecessary.

Please vote NO. Thank you.

Posted by Steve_Corbin (anonymous) on April 2, 2009 at 8:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Madpoet, I want to scream too!

Those huge ads in the paper urging you to vote no were paid for by me.

Paid for by me using money that last year went to numerous charities and good causes. Paid for with money that could have gone to my kids and grandkids when I die.
But I just as soon would like to leave them with a few freedoms.
So you see this smoking ban has already had an adverse affect an businesses and charities in Emporia.
Steve

Posted by Steve_Corbin (anonymous) on April 2, 2009 at 9:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

and I think 77flint is really crackinsack, she just fell on her head 1 too many times without her helmet on:>)

Posted by seriouslyfolks (anonymous) on April 2, 2009 at 10:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

crack said
"You are willing to use money that could have gone to your grandkids to fight a ban that would clearly benefit them. Apparently, you want to preserve their chances of being exposed to SHS against their will in hopes that you'll be able to profit off of it."

As easy as it is to avoid shs if a child is exposed to shs it is the parent's fault. Seriously, if I can be a responsible parent and easily keep my children away from shs and other harnful things and situations, I feel that others should be able to also. Where are all these kids getting exposed to harmful levels of shs? Seriously!

If you are concerned for your health and feel that shs is unhealthy, please stay away from it. You will quickly see that this ban is unnecessary.

Please vote NO. Thank you.

Posted by YY4U (anonymous) on April 2, 2009 at 10:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I like smokey bars. If you don't like smokey bars stay away from smokey bars. I don't like screaming kids so you won't see me in a chucky cheese screaming at children to shut up. VOTE NO!

Posted by Steve_Corbin (anonymous) on April 2, 2009 at 11:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Boo Hoo. Now you've gone and hurt my feelings. Oh well, life does go on here at the Royal.
Steve

Posted by YY4U (anonymous) on April 2, 2009 at 11:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Crack - Stress Kills! Quit stressing everyone out. Don't like smokey bars, don't stress out. Leave. Don't cause stress to others. Be quiet and leave. Easy. Go to the room full of screaming kids and relax if you can. Don't yell at the children. That causes stress too. Choose where you go and relax. Don't let people get to you worked up like that. Vote NO!

Posted by seriouslyfolks (anonymous) on April 2, 2009 at 11:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"Kids grow up, go to college, go out with friends, and get exposed to SHS."
I hope that I am able to teach my kids better than that. I hope others do also but is evident that many parents have failed as there are so many people who continue to go around something that they believe is killing them when it is so very easy to avoid it. How very sad for our society. I really want to believe that people are smart enough to stay away from dangerous things on their own so I'll still be voting NO.

Posted by seriouslyfolks (anonymous) on April 2, 2009 at 1:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I think serving alcohol in those places might just send a mixed message too then. Don't ya think?

I will send a strong message to my kids myself, thank you very much. I really don't want someone that doesn't have enough sense to simply avoid shs if they believe it is killing them to try to teach my kids anything. I might use them as an example, and tell my kids not to be like them. It's like that old saying "not enough sense to come out of the rain" or in this case "not enough sense to stay away from something you think is killing you".

I'll be voting NO.

Posted by madpoet (anonymous) on April 2, 2009 at 1:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

My comment was not a shot at you, Steve. It is just frustrating that it has come to this point. And I know that the pro-ban group started the whole media onslaught and forced you to respond. I think their use of non-profit groups to run PSAs on how bad shs is for your health is underhanded. I am willing to bet they have spent at least 2X the money and effort than you have.

Posted by methusla (anonymous) on April 2, 2009 at 2:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

crackinsack;

Just who will you and the the holier than thou socialy correct, know it all dictators, decide to ban from living in Emporia because they do not wish to live by your so-called new " SOCIAL NORM " or way of believing or living ?

Citizens of Emporia, now the real agenda and issue is starting to come forth from the mouth of the pro-ban crowd.
It would seem that if you don't fit into their particular social standard or level you are considered to be an undesirable and a killer, murder, uneducated, ignorant, " full of crap" , etc. and some of the pro-ban zealots have said so, right here on these threads !
If you/we loose just one of our rights, freedoms or liberties that will be much worse than any exposure to SHS, because if we/you allow the loss of just one of our rights, freedoms or liberties to this smoking ban or these holier than thou pro-ban, would social dictators it will mean the loss of yet more of our freedoms, rights and liberties !

VOTE NO !

Posted by methusla (anonymous) on April 2, 2009 at 2:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The following is just one snipit of some interesting reading,

The deep enmeshment of today’s
international “public health” with the
interests of pharmaceutical
multinationals is well-documented.

The web address is, http://www.data-yard.net/science/papers/...

Posted by methusla (anonymous) on April 2, 2009 at 2:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

P.S., Here is another little snipit from the aforementioned web site.
THE FLAWED
METHODOLOGIES
One of the tactics of the WHO in its
effort to disinform governments and
citizens about the health hazards of
tobacco smoke is to mention
mortality rates, and to project the use
of tobacco as a social problem and a
disease.

VOTE NO!

Posted by methusla (anonymous) on April 2, 2009 at 2:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

And yet another piece of information from the same website as before !

On the other hand,
independent, “non-expert” critiques,
no matter how acute and to the point,
are dismissed as incompetent, thus
not worthy of attention. In fact, only
antismoking activists and doctors –
doctors who embrace antitobacco –
are admitted to this exclusive
“debate.” This “debate,” however,
profoundly affects the pockets and
the liberties of billions of smokers.

VOTE NO !

Posted by methusla (anonymous) on April 2, 2009 at 3:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Just another piece of info.

For a study to be
scientifically reliable and credible,
three fundamental guarantees must
apply:
1. To have measured only what it
intended to measure
2. The variables examined are the
only differences between the
measured phenomenon (case) and
what is taken as zero risk sample
(control)
3. The results can be reproduced
by other laboratories
None of the studies on smoking –
especially passive smoke – can
claim to have met even one of those
conditions, thus they do not qualify
as reliable science – let alone as the
basis for propaganda campaigns and
public policy making. If the above
conditions are not met, the numerical
risk elevation (whether it is 1.01 or
10) becomes irrelevant.

Posted by justamarine (anonymous) on April 2, 2009 at 3:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Crack you posted-
Come April 7th, you will realize that you have wasted your time and money while severing many ties within the community. Do you really think the things you post on here give you a good reputation? When your business goes under, you won’t be able to blame the smoking ban because you have done more damage to your own name and livelihood than the smoking ban could ever do. Nobody wants to patronize an intolerant fool; you have brought it upon yourself.

First off I do not believe Steve has wasted his time or money. He is a very passionate man, He is fighting for his RIGHTS as an American business man and for something he and others believe in. Damage to his name, I don't think so, He stands up for what is right, it may not be popular with you and that bus load of people that ride with you everyday. His business will not go under you twit, he been doing it for many years. I think the only ones that will not visit his place are people like you. You are unable to think outside the box, you need the government to think for you. We need less people like you and more like Steve Corbin,people who can use their brain and think by themselves.

Steve I have an idea, I don't know if it has been brought up yet or not. But would it be okay if your customers stood outside April 7th, ten feet from your door and everyone smoke, so the people voting yes will be able to see what they will be getting if the ban passes? Just a thought.
SEMPER FI

Posted by madpoet (anonymous) on April 2, 2009 at 3:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

justamarine, my point exactly! They whine about smokers now, when they are inside out of sight, how upset are they going to be when the smokers are out in the open? People are much more likely to be exposed to shs by putting the smokers out on the public sidewalk. It makes no sense to me.

Posted by justamarine (anonymous) on April 2, 2009 at 3:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

madpoet,
Try this on, lets say the stupid ban passes, you,crack and myself, all go out to a bar to have a few beers. We find a nice table, blah blah blah.You and I decide to go outside and have a smoke,now there are 15 people outside smoking with us. We get done and go back inside,well now we smell like smoke. Is Crack going to leave our table because he has come in contact with shs because the smoke is in our clothes? Guess whats coming after that......... you got it no smoking period. Because if you can smell it, it's getting into your system. True or False.

Vote NO on the stupid ban people.

Posted by Steve_Corbin (anonymous) on April 2, 2009 at 4:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Good thinking justamarine, but it is kind of cold here yet. maybe if election day is nice?
squid

Posted by justamarine (anonymous) on April 2, 2009 at 4:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Steve
Well just warm up your customers by serving all that hot beer you have.lol

Posted by justamarine (anonymous) on April 2, 2009 at 4:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Or just serve them some hot tea. You know what to do with the old tea bags, right.

Posted by Bjnemp (anonymous) on April 2, 2009 at 4:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Steve: The rude and ignorant attack upon you (above) by Crackinback shows the prevailing attitude and ethics of the pro-ban bullies. She is very wrong (what's new?) in proclaiming that you have hurt your reputation, business, and standing in the community. Quite the contrary, you have elevated yourself to a most enviable position. That is, you have demonstrated to your friends, your customers, and all citizens of Emporia that you are willing to sacrifice time, energy, and personal wealth to fight injustice.

You have become someone that I and all Emporians should respect and emulate. You have fought a fierce battle against incredible odds. A smalll group of self-perceived social superiors with immense resources are attempting to erode personal freedoms and rights to force their narrow thinking and personal preferences on everyone... and you stood up and defied them.

You have something the CAE folks, Crackinback, and Slvrsrack will never possess. You have intregity, ethics, values, pride in community, belief in American freedoms, and honest caring and empathy for your neighbors.

All Emporians should recognize this issue for what it really is: an attempt by a few to force their will upon many by using despicable and shameful tactics, lies, and bags full of special interest money.

This smoking ban is a sham of historic proportions and a power play bordering on un-American. Emporia already has a very effective and equitable smoking ban. Every public, retail, government and office building in our city is already smoke-free, as are 90% of restaurants. Only a few bars and private clubs allow smoking on premises.

The anti-smoking/smoker social superiors use their ad nauseum barrage of commercials to try and convince us that if this proposed ban is voted down on Tuesday, Emporia will be more wide open and smoke-filled than a frontier bordello. That's a lie, as is most of the nonsense they bombard us with.

U da man, Steve, and I am proud to know that there are still those among us who will stand up to tyranny and needless government intrusion into our lives. You aren't fighting for your own personal agenda or greed, as the pro-ban bullies have insinuated, but for all of us in Emporia.

Forget what Crackinback said. She doesn't care about your rights, my rights, our city, or anyone but herself.

I have already voted. I voted "NO". I strongly urge all to do the same... for Emporia, for Emporians, and for what our nation stands for.

Posted by Bjnemp (anonymous) on April 2, 2009 at 4:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yea! Someone just put a nice new yellow "Vote No" sign in my front yard. Thank you, Steve!

Vote "NO" on Tuesday!

Posted by Bjnemp (anonymous) on April 2, 2009 at 5:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Crackinback: I just re-read your shocking personal attack on Steve (above). You have reached a new level of low, vile, and despicable behavior.

You must make your family, children, parents, and other anti-smoking haters very proud.

Posted by methusla (anonymous) on April 2, 2009 at 5:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Here is a little information for the pro-ban zealots, for their " EDIFICATION ",

In simple words, let us consider the
enormous magnitude of the WHO’s
claims: four million-plus deaths per
year “attributed” to smoking. With
such a massive background of
“fatalities,” there should be no
problem at all in presenting one
single death that can be proven to
be caused uniquely by primary or
passive smoking, and beyond any
scientific objection. At least, the
WHO should be able to firmly
quantify the percentage contribution
of tobacco to that one death. But in
no case can the WHO, or any other
entity or individual, make such a
claim; and if all the apocalyptic
documentation of the WHO is read
analytically, one sees that that claim
is made nowhere.

VOTE NO to preserve your/our freedoms,rights, liberties and put a stop to the lies, half-truths, non-truths and the power and control dictators !

Posted by Steve_Corbin (anonymous) on April 2, 2009 at 6:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Bjnemp & Marine,
1st off, I can handle the crackster. Remember when she would never respond to my posts forvever and ever?
Got her stirred enough to forget that statement.
And unlike her I have put my name out there because what I believe in is right, and the ban I am fighting against is wrong.
I just hope in 13 years when my 1st grandson is ready for college, he will be exposed to the real world as an adult. I hope by then the government won't be telling its young people who CAN go to college and who can't.

And What do you mean "HOT BEER"?
steve

Posted by MisterO (anonymous) on April 2, 2009 at 7 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Bjnemp posted to Steve, "You have something the CAE folks, Crackinback, and Slvrsrack will never possess. You have intregity, ethics, values, pride in community, belief in American freedoms, and honest caring and empathy for your neighbors."

I'll 2nd that. And 3rd it, too.

If anyone should be winning some sort of community award, I can't think of a better recipient than rbow.

Posted by justamarine (anonymous) on April 2, 2009 at 7:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Okay maybe not hot beer, but I do believe you advertized warm beer,a few years back, in the summer. And let me tell you they were the coldest beers in town that summer. At least I didn't use that Fr** word that you love so much.lol

Posted by neighbor (anonymous) on April 2, 2009 at 8:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Have you recovered your senses yet Steve? That was quite a tongue lashing cracky gave you this morning. Hopefully you've showered to get that putrid odor off yourself that she so despises. Guess you don't have to worry about her ugly personality nor butt taking up table space or stressing your bar stool load limit anytime soon.

I love it when they reveal their true mentality, personality, and motivation for supporting the ban. When they state their true opinion of individual smokers, you see the psychotic/obsessive compulsive side of them that drives them to act the way they are.

Maybe CAE could get the Psych Dept of ESU to join Mary and the nursing program in promoting this campaign.

Posted by jmcmannis (anonymous) on April 3, 2009 at 1:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I have a question, if this ban passes which I pray to God it does not. On top of the no smoking signs, ARE THERE GOING TO BE BUTT CANS FOR THE SMOKERS 10 FT FROM THE DOOR?
Or is Cracky and his/her band of holier than though shove their rights down smokers throat going to start whining because of the butts littering the streets.

Just curious and for the record I am not only no but HELL NO ON THE SMOKING BAN.
Vote NO Please on April 7th
This is a rights issue nothing more
Dont Tread On Me

Posted by glarson (Gwen Larson) on April 3, 2009 at 6 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Over to a forum, folks:

http://www.emporiagazette.com/forums/ope...