Residents concerned about Tyson closing
Ramifications will be far-reaching
By Bobbi Mlynar (Contact)
Saturday, January 26, 2008
Representative Don Hill brought a piece of good news to the Eggs & Issues forum Saturday morning at the Sauder Alumni Center.
The State of Kansas will be sending money to Lyon County, to help compensate for the funds lost when certain machinery and equipment were removed two years ago from the local property tax rolls.
“Lyon County is going to receive something just over $343,000, and that check will be delivered before the end of February,” Hill said.
Eggs and Issues meetings, co-sponsored by the local Chamber of Commerce and the League of Women Voters, usually are opportunities for elected officials to update the community on happenings at the state capitol and for citizens to present questions and comments to those leaders.
Saturday’s meeting, however, followed an unexpected announcement Friday afternoon that Tyson Fresh Meats would end its slaughter operations in Emporia by March 25. The second shift processing operation also will be eliminated.
The announcement estimated that 1,500 of the current 2,400 workers would lose their jobs, leaving a work force of about 900 people.
Questions and comments about that circumstance became a primary topic for discussion. By meeting time, residents were coming to grips with the ramifications of losing 1,500 Tyson workers and their family members.
One woman said that on Friday evening, she had talked to a friend who owns 15 apartments. Twelve of those apartments were rented to Tyson employees who had lost their jobs. The landlord now faces significant loss of income, too.
With more than 60 percent of the jobs at Tyson scheduled to disappear in two months, the Emporia community will not be the only area to feel its effect; it will ripple on to state government in lost income and sales taxes, and other revenues. Hill said that he already had looked at the potential effect on his own business.
“The topic on all of our hearts and all of our minds this morning concerns Tyson,” Sen. Jim Barnett said. “… This is a time for Emporia to come together with an attitude that we can do, we can come together and solve this problem.
“There’s been a lot of things in this community that have just been sitting on the back burner.”
Barnett said that Emporia now is under new leadership and a blueprint for success has just been put in place by the Emporia Area Chamber of Commerce, in partnership with other official entities.
Barnett anticipated that the Flint Hills Technical College and Emporia State University will play a large role in retraining displaced workers; the health department and mental health center also will be busy.
“All of those people are in place and ready to help this community come together and move forward,” Barnett said.
He mentioned several issues that have needed attention for some time that now could be considered to help the city and its residents: use of the fairgrounds; a longer runway at the airport; road construction and property available for development west of town.
“(N)ow is the time for us to move forward,” Barnett said. “… Right now, it’s a mess … but the opportunities are there for growth and development and jobs.”
Audience member Nick Laurent asked if the new REG energy plant under construction would be affected, since there had been talk of using the byproduct tallow from Tyson as fuel at the plant.
City Commissioner Jeff Longbine said that the plan primarily would use soybean oil, and that he did not anticipate that REG’s plans would be harmed by the Tyson decision.
Kitty Frank of the local Girl Scout Council asked if there were any estimates of the number of children involved in the 1,500 families.
No estimates were yet available, Barnett said.
“Certainly it’s going to have a huge impact on the school district,” he said, mentioning budgets, long-term plans, and jobs within the district.
“There are cushions within the state statutes that allow for a declining enrollment,” he said.
Sarah Wyrick asked if the closing would affect the school district’s plans to build an addition at Village School, as well as make other major changes there over a period of several years.
“That’s the kind of question I don’t think everybody’s prepared to answer today,” Hill said.
Hill mentioned a human factor that would need to be considered as the community works through the upheaval brought on by the Tyson closing. Hill said that he had talked Friday with a slaughter supervisor who had worked at the plant for about 33 years. There are families in the area who have 10 or 12 extended family members employed at Tyson.
“There are scores of people like that in our community,” said Hill.
At William Allen White School, he said, perhaps 50 percent of the students are family members of Tyson workers.
“And it’s not going to impact just Emporia. This is a statewide event, as witnessed by the media attention it got yesterday,” Hill said. “It’s a big deal. And it’s an opportunity. It’s an opportunity to muster the resources that are here.”
Unemployment benefits will be available for the Tyson workers who have lost their jobs and choose not to move to one of four other Tyson plants; extended benefits also should be available because of the circumstances.
The university and the technical college will have opportunities to create programs to develop workforce re-training.
Hill said that Wolf Creek Nuclear Plant may offer an opportunity for an economic boost, if Westar chooses to construct the second nuclear reactor that was provided for in the original plans for the plant. The state’s current energy suppliers are short on baseload capacity, for example, and because of that cannot take advantage of the potential to harvest wind energy in southwest Kansas.
“Baseload capacity doesn’t come from solar or wind,” he said. “It comes from uranium, coal, and gas, and it’s not going to keep up with the growing demand.”
Discussion turned to immigration and the need for workers in the United States.
“Economists and business leaders say without more workers, we don’t have an economy,” Hill said. “We certainly don’t have a world-leading economy in the U.S. … We’re going to be like Western Europe which, if you haven’t noticed, is sliding pretty fast in the grand scheme of things.”
Wyrick said that she has received calls from telemarketers, asking her opinion on topics such as immigration. She asked the representatives to remember that respondents did not have to be against immigration to rate the topic as very important.
Hill and Barnett said that the federal government has not enacted a plan to strengthen borders against illegal immigration.
“I don’t know many people who are anti-immigration,” Barnett said. “I know a lot of people who are anti-illegal immigration.”
Barnett said the federal government needs to first deal with security the nation’s borders to prevent illegal immigration.
“We can’t take 12 million people in our country and round them up and move them out,” he said.
Kansas’ “real ID” driver’s license plan is expected to result in 50,000 fewer driver’s licenses issued in the state over the next six years.
“And that tells you there’s a lot of folks who were not here legally,” Barnett said.
Pru Schmidt asked what consideration would be given to illegal immigrants and their families, who have been in this area many years, worked their jobs, and paid their bills. While parents may be illegally in the U.S., their children born here are American citizens with the right to stay in the country.
“Some families are being split,” Schmidt said. “Then they leave families who are subject to welfare.”
Barnett said that so far nothing has been done.
“When we finally solve the problem, we’re going to have to deal with that. … It’s not going to benefit us if we split families, if we put more people on welfare,” he said.
Barnett said that the immigration situation has had “a huge impact on education in many different ways.”
Children and their parents come to this country with little or no education, unable to speak the language, and are expected to meet mandated requirements of the No Child Left Behind Act. Without meeting those requirements, districts are at-risk of losing funds. And, Barnett said, districts also are at-risk of losing teachers.
Some of the Emporia district’s teachers are counting the days to retirement.
“So we’re losing some of our very best teachers. What’s it doing to the quality of our education?” he asked. “… President Bush had the opportunity to be one of the greatest education presidents” before the terrorists’ attacks in Washington, D.C., and New York City on Sept. 11, 2001, and the subsequent war in Iraq.
Now, Barnett said, education nationwide is coping with NCLB.
He said the bill was unrealistic, and “it’s probably causing more harm than it is good.”
Craig Barbee said that one seventh-grade class in Emporia is made up of 11 non-English students and 7 English students.
“The teacher has to break up her speaking to allow the translator to keep up,” Barbee said.
Rep. Peggy Mast was unable to attend the meeting Saturday morning because of her involvement in Kansas Day activities in Topeka.
The next Eggs & Issues forum will begin with refreshments at 8 a.m., Feb. 16, at Presbyterian Manor.
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Posted by emp205 (anonymous) on January 26, 2008 at 2:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Rep> Peggy Mast was unable to attend the meeting Saturday morning because of her involvement in Kansas Day...now don't that beat all. Our elected official not at a meeting because of KS Day activities. One might think that Rep. Mast would use her head and be at a gathing in her area based on the current events. I am sure that several community leaders have changed their schedules to address this issue, but our Peggy, well she must have felt that smiling and being part of KS Day activities was of far greater importance then being in her community during a time of hurt, fear and concern. Hope you had a good day Peggy. I know that by you participating in KS Day you have made my life better!
Posted by averagejoe (anonymous) on January 26, 2008 at 3:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Great comment ... I wouldn't expect any more out a screen name like "Gayzettesux".
Posted by eatasheep69 (anonymous) on January 26, 2008 at 6:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)
...sux,
Why do you bother posting here or even reading the articles for that matter?
You need to spend more time working on your personality.
Posted by bajarat (anonymous) on January 26, 2008 at 6:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)
“We can’t take 12 million people in our country and round them up and move them out,” he [Sen. Barnett] said.
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Why the hell not? It's the law, you know. Illegal aliens are criminals who need to be ferreted out and ejected from the country immediately. Barnett is obviously incompetent and is unfit to hold any public office, IMO. He needs to be recalled or impeached.
Posted by wanderer (anonymous) on January 26, 2008 at 9:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Bajarat, I think what Barnett is talking about is the logistical impossibility of scooping up 12 million people in a dragnet, not whether or not it would be desirable to do so. And California notwithstanding, recalls and impeachment were set up to remove politicians who had committed criminal acts themselves. If incompetence were the standard, half of Washington would be out on the street.
Not that that might not be a good idea, mind you....
Posted by equalrights (anonymous) on January 26, 2008 at 9:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
they are people not cattle. 'ejected' from the country? Seriously. They are mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, etc. Some people have lived here since they were 3 or 4 years old.
R-E-S-P-E-C-T!
Posted by meanguy (anonymous) on January 27, 2008 at 12:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)
They are still illegal and they shouldn't be here. They are breaking the law and should be removed from the U.S.
Posted by alfalfa (anonymous) on January 27, 2008 at 7:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Regardless of your position, the US government is never going to deport 12 million people. First of all, big business depends on them for cheap labor, and that is who donates all these millions to politicians to get elected. If it weren't for big business using them for cheap labor, our border would have been secured long ago. I would settle for building the fence, controlling the border so no more illegals get in, and trying to find the 2 million who are criminals and send them back. If the US government manages to do that I will be amazed.
I like Senator Barnett, but bringing the fairgrounds into this is stupid. More retailers being built on the fairgrounds is not the answer to this situation. An employer like Tyson is going to be hard to replace, 1500 jobs won't be created from moving the fairgrounds and making the runway at the airport longer. The first order of business is going to have to be to find these 1500 people jobs, even if it is jobs not anywhere near Emporia, followed by the close second of dealing with the domino effect, things like having perhaps 200-500 homes on the market all at once.
Posted by jibberish66 (anonymous) on January 27, 2008 at 9:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)
From what I understand, the state of Arizona has intensified their immigration laws to the point to where illegals are leaving of their own accord. Perhaps their policies could serve as a model of how to deal with the illegal immigration question. We need not "scoop them up," but let them realize that there are no jobs for them here, and, as a result they leave on their own.
Too bad about Tyson's, though. I worked there for 5 years back when it was "the Beef," and I'll be sorry to see the jobs lost.
Posted by johnsie (anonymous) on January 28, 2008 at 10:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Senator Barnett - no! no! no! You and the city keep your hands off the fairgrounds! We've had to live with enough botched up city developments. Leave the fairgrounds out of this mess!
Posted by johnsie (anonymous) on January 28, 2008 at 10:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Illegal immigration is a big, nasty cancer that has not been addressed head-on by our great leaders. So now measures must be taken to clean it from our country. The "do-gooders" and the illegals will just have to suffer through a new and drastic process if the U.S.A. is to ever be "cancer free". It didn't happen in a pretty way - and it can't be dealt with in a pretty way - that's life!
Posted by hottopics (anonymous) on January 28, 2008 at 12:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)
If people were more passionate about our economy then saving the fairgrounds then this might not have been such a hard blow to so many. The 40K spent on Arches could have been put to much better use.
Posted by mkings (anonymous) on January 28, 2008 at 1:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)
This kind of news has had a hard impact on all types of lives here in Emporia...Not only is Tyson's workplace made up of different nationalities and races, but also of real human beings trying to keep their families afloat; and trying to stay off of welfare or government assistance..so for those of whom are ignorant to the situation, you should step back for a moment and analyze the situation at hand before bashing them ILLEGALS OR NOT!! Put yourselves in their shoes' just maybe they are a little to big for you all to fill....I am sick and tired of having to hear how them illegals are taking your jobs, how they take up space in the community, and so on and so on....WELL here's the chance to take back what everyone is so worried about...take it all...cause noone else will be around to pick up after 1/2 of Tyson employees move on...so for the ones who have been born and raised here in Emporia, think how this change will also be for all..So not only are the illegals going to be affected but everyone, and about building more this and more that, c'mon get real...get ready to file bankruptcy very soon....see how long this town will last, if at the least, back to how it was before the immigrants came and made something of this town....YES they all did help with the economy, whether we like it or not!!!!!
Posted by etown (anonymous) on January 28, 2008 at 2:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Good point mkings. Emporia will be in for a rude awakening.
Posted by wookdog13 (anonymous) on January 29, 2008 at 9:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Mkings, How well I agree. Everyone should realize the trickle down affect this will have on the town. I think one of the best things to start with is that people boycot the Tyson company. Do not buy their products. Do not shop where they sell! I would like to see people with signs walking in front of the plant protesting their actions. You must realize that none of their CEOs live in our community, therefore, they do not care what happens here. At least, these people were given warning. Believe me, the bakery will just lock their doors one day, and not give a warning. What happens then to Emporia?
We will slowly see our town die. Stores (especially small) will be the first to get hit. The grocery stores will be next. Eventually, W mart will be the fore runner, because people will have no where else to shop. Next, the housing market will die and banks will see even more foreclosures.( Did you listen to the Pres last night?) What happens to vehicles that are purchased. More bank repos, right? Next, no health insurance. People will let their illness get to the point that it will take even more money to get them well, if their is a chance. Our hospital (sad as it is) will suffer due to economics and no money brought in to buy or upgrade new equipment. Then we will see doctors leave (already happening). Eventually those remaining will end up going other places for their needs. More loss to Emporia.
Posted by eddison2 (anonymous) on January 29, 2008 at 9:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I guess YOU see BOYCOTTING as an EYE for an EYE.....
TYSON is not the only company in the U.S. scaling back ....YOU CANT keep paying out money if MONEY is not coming in....
SO lets hurt the OTHER 900 jobs left so they too will be without, having to move or find other employment....
A good suggestion at this point is to REALIZE Tyson will still be the largest employer in this city........instead of bashing and devising ways to undermine with thoughts and opinions that are totaly unfounded I would think some should be thankful they have a job and focus on DOING their jobs wether it be at TYSON or not......being productive and not a thorn....
THERE are Companies FAILING all over this country.....and UNLIKE DOLLY, TYSON is trying to do something TO keep out of a situation that would be ever more devestating....as with FORD laying off 30+thousand,,,,IBM laid off 20+ thousand last year....its a sad time across the board....as for now I am thankful 900 jobs are still provided for....along with the team members taking the opportunity to transfer and go forward in these changing times....
OLD saying.....YOU DONT bite the hand that feeds YOU....
Posted by kerpow66801 (anonymous) on February 11, 2008 at 10 a.m. (Suggest removal)
@ eddison2 fully aggree with you. Seems a little selfish to to take even more profits from the company therefore accomplishing nothing but more layoffs in other towns think of them and their families. The world doesn't revolve around Emporia. They ARE a buisness. they make money. period. Yes my family and I are being displaced by the layoff but.. well... oh well I've accepted it, New areas new things to see I personally don't wanna die in a one-horse town.
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