logical (anonymous) says...

I agree that ESU has sunk to a new low to play this at a game that is attended by young people. The administration at ESU need to look at the image that is being presented....how many parents would be impressed by this? Based on this, my kids will not be attending games.

October 31, 2007 at 1:13 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

slipandslide (anonymous) says...

and then there is the a/c d/c highway to hell song being played at the high school football games at esu

October 31, 2007 at 1:22 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

EsqEB (anonymous) says...

I wonder how her 8 year old son figured out what it meant. I had to "Google" it, and I am 29.

October 31, 2007 at 1:54 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

bob (anonymous) says...

Its a song...get over it! slipandslide...I find your user name very suggestive, but i'm amused! ;-)

October 31, 2007 at 2:03 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

admireed (anonymous) says...

This is George Bush's fault.

October 31, 2007 at 2:10 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

tosie (anonymous) says...

It's obvious that EsqEB and bob don't have kids....or they just don't care what their children listen to. For those parents who are trying to teach their children respect and appropriate language this song (among others) throws that idea right out the window.

October 31, 2007 at 2:19 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

playersfan (anonymous) says...

I didn't notice the song or maybe I wasn't in the statium yet, but I agree when you have mixed ages at a college football game, the school should respect and play appropriate language. I hope your son doesn't grow up and be a football player on ESU if we still have these coaches, ha, ha their mouths are full of garbage. The administration needs to look into a lot more than the music played. I respect your comments.

October 31, 2007 at 2:43 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

marebear14 (anonymous) says...

Not appropriate, I agree my husband was going to take our 8 yr old sons. I'm sure glad that the boys decided to do something else. I would have hated trying to explain that to them.

October 31, 2007 at 3:24 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

yellow82 (anonymous) says...

houndi for you to say ESU students use the F word a lot, is speaking for a lot of students. Why must you stereotype ESU students like that? And how do you know all these people in public/work are ESU students? No I am not a student, but it's wrong for you to aim that at only ESU students.

October 31, 2007 at 3:32 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

photobuggy2 (anonymous) says...

ESU students are not the only people that use the F word.

Get back on the subject. I googled what it meant also and that song should never have been played...the 8 year old knowing what it means is besides the point.

October 31, 2007 at 4:59 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

playersfan (anonymous) says...

It might be the year 2007, but the bottom line here, we must still do our part as parents, community, teachers, etc to show respect, if not will we ever get respect from our younger generation? Let's do our best in this world to make sure our younger people don't have more load on their shoulders than they can absorb. Let them have their childhood!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

October 31, 2007 at 5:34 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

littlelady (anonymous) says...

Did the 8 year old have fun? Or did the song ruin the whole day? My guess is that he enjoyed himself regardless of what song play. Maybe it wasn't appropriate to play-but you probably won't have to talk with him about in appropriate lyrics until he is a bit older. I don't think kids can be shielded from everything-it is out there & everywhere-communicate with them. My mom never explained that Olivia Newton John's "Physical" wasn't about a work out. I figured that out years later!

October 31, 2007 at 7:05 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

equalrights (anonymous) says...

That 'act' borders on sexual assault in my opinion. If a stranger or a repairman was to do that do a woman, he would be arrested. Why is this acceptable enough to have this in the speakers of our higher education. What are we teaching this younger generation?

October 31, 2007 at 7:08 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

EsqEB (anonymous) says...

Tosie, You are correct, I do not have kids. That does not change the fact that I had no clue what this meant, and somehow her 8 year old son did. Perhaps, she needs to take a look at her parenting and figure out how he knew what it meant to begin with. I agree it is inappropriate that it was played at the game. But the root of this kids problems didn't start last Saturday.

October 31, 2007 at 8:15 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

playersfan (anonymous) says...

Amen! It's not acceptable to have this in the speakers of our higher education, it looks like we agree. Yes, it's all around us, but still as a community why not stop and try to change the things that are wrong and speak out to fight for what's right. Most likely a student was in charge of the music that was chosen, but it is the schools responsiblity to correct this by an apology and make sure it doesn't happen again. This type of music and rap is all out there but as individuals we have choices in our homes to play it, but in a public place with 5,000 or so people is incredible! Did we pay to see a public college football game and enjoy the day and support the football players or did we come to hear foul language without our choice?

October 31, 2007 at 8:35 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

playersfan (anonymous) says...

But who said this 8 year old had a problem? When you have children you will understand.

October 31, 2007 at 8:42 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

playersfan (anonymous) says...

No one said you had a problem. We are voicing what we feel is right and I hope it goes to the top. I'm thankful for this lady to stand up and post an article.

October 31, 2007 at 8:48 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

EsqEB (anonymous) says...

I would say any 8 year old who knows the definition of what it means to "Superman" someone has some issues, or lack of parenting or supervision. I do not need kids to understand that, but it was a nice cop out.
I have nieces and nephews and I promise you, they would have no clue what this meant. Like I said, it was inappropriate to play this song, but who explained to the kid what it meant?

I wonder if this lady, or any of you, feel the same way when they play the "Rolling Stones", "Start Me Up"...and I qoute...
"If you start me up I'll never stop
I've been running hot
You got me ticking gonna blow my top"...
"If you rough it up
If you like it you can slide it up, slide it up"...
"You, you make a dead man come"...
"I'll take you places that you've never, never seen
Start it up
Love the day when we will never stop, never stop"...

October 31, 2007 at 8:54 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

4Jayhawks (anonymous) says...

I have read this article several times and don't see where it says the 8 year old understood or knew what it meant. The mom was upset that the child was subjected to the song with this language in it. I personaly would have been upset to. Many families attend games so that should be taken into concideration when the music is picked to play.

October 31, 2007 at 9:05 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

equalrights (anonymous) says...

Where in her story did it say the 8 year old knew what it meant?

October 31, 2007 at 9:16 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

playersfan (anonymous) says...

EsqEb, and this is to you-re-read the story! It is obvious you love this music if you know these words in text. Awesome, we are happy for you stay 29 with NO Children!

October 31, 2007 at 9:27 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

equalrights (anonymous) says...

lol to playersfan!

And for the record EsqEb...there are many songs that offend me. There are many types of music that degrade races, gender, and have sexual content, etc. I think the woman's point was that it was a public event where she was attending with her son. She didn't attend the concert of the singer, she attended a football game. She shouldn't have to cover her child's ears. And quite frankly, as an ESU student, I don't want my funds paying for something that I believe is morally wrong and abusive to women.

October 31, 2007 at 11:03 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

eatasheep69 (anonymous) says...

I agree that is was inappropriate for such an event. However, I bet many of you would be surprised about how much the average 8 year old knows and what kind of language he/she may use when you're not around. Much of our contemporary music is suggestive, and has been for decades, Whether you actually hear the lyrics or just the melodies does not change this. Did you happen to notice last year the band played Chicago's classic "25 or 6 to 4" at nearly every home game? Do you know what that song is about? Not really a good subject for young ears either, do you think? But how old is that song? Feeling like I ought to sleep I seemed to have forgotten what I was posting this for. Sorry.

October 31, 2007 at 11:24 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

TruthRising (anonymous) says...

I agree with Michelle Stormont. ESU was stupid and irresponsible and should apologize.

November 1, 2007 at 1:36 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

blulitespecial (anonymous) says...

Songs like this are for late at night in a club.Over 21.There is a time and a place.This wasn't it.The person that decided this was OK to play in this setting needs to be barred from going near the equipment again.Period.There are plenty of songs like this- Ya don't play'em around the kids,or the general public.If this person is considering radio,or entertaining- do something else.You ain't ready.

November 1, 2007 at 3:10 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

playersfan (anonymous) says...

my guess is, this topic will go on, because it is a real problem to some of us, I bet skating rinks does have this type of music. That's something that is real too, your right.If this generation plays suggested songs, what will the next generation play? There will be no more suggestive songs, it will be the real words spelled out forward, and these kids will not have a childhood, there will be more bad stuff happening to children. So, for the people in each community get involved with your city leaders, and change what's played in public. The C.D's will continue to be sold, but let's control it.

November 1, 2007 at 7:41 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

AshtonHandy (anonymous) says...

The same people who will let songs like that play are the same one who will cry foul when a Christmas song is done in Public. The same type who will sue saying not playing a song like that violates their rights to Freedom of Expression

November 1, 2007 at 9:25 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

playersfan (anonymous) says...

KEEP ON FIGHTING FOR RESPECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

November 1, 2007 at 9:30 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

siamesefred (anonymous) says...

You're right that some of these songs are played at hte skating rink... because they're popular with kids today. But the skating rink also has started Christian family night that plays praise and worship type music. I'm told it's been a popular night since the beginning, although we have yet to be able to fit it into our schedule.

November 1, 2007 at 9:44 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

playersfan (anonymous) says...

Yeah, have you seen the new dollar coin? It doesn't say "In God We Trust".

November 1, 2007 at 9:45 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

playersfan (anonymous) says...

Awesome, tell your friends and have your friends tell there friends and so on, push to the owners of the skating rink that this is more popular and appropriate. The problem with all of this, owners of businesses only want what attracts their business.

November 1, 2007 at 9:55 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

neighbor (anonymous) says...

Yes it does playersfan, look on the side of the coin. Don't believe all the internet e-mail fairy tales you get warning you that the sky is falling and that they are out to burn down the churches.

Our parents, their parents, and all the parents before them have went thru the same generational differences. Music lyrics have been sexually oriented for some time. It's not just in (c)RAP music, they are in R&R, Soul, C&W, etal. Just listen to the lyrics in Conway Twitty's old music, he thought he was god's gift to women. Pick any rock group, everyone of them back thru the 60's with have such lyrics.

I agree, at school events, most Rap music is unappropriate but I highly doubt that Ms. Stormont's 8 yr old son had a clue about what the song meant or even listened to the words to begin with.

November 1, 2007 at 10:01 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

create (anonymous) says...

I agree with Equal Rights. "And quite frankly, as an ESU student, I don't want my funds paying for something that I believe is morally wrong and abusive to women."

I hope you are vociferous enough to let the university know how you feel. I already have.

With regard to someone who said we need to get the city to change what's played in public. Huh??? We can't even get them to play Christmas hymns!!!!!

If the skating rink is serious, I double dog dare them to play praise music on Friday or Saturday nights. There is so little for kids to do in Emporia in the first place yet one of the popular places has to play this kind of questionable music. Too bad. But don't forget, parents, you have the power of the purse, and it wouldn't take long to be convincing.

What about classical music? Operatic arias? What a great opportunity to expose kids to great music. No, I don't mean elevator music. Give me a break!!! Wouldn't skating to "The 1812 Overture" be fun? You could even fall to music.

November 1, 2007 at 10:09 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

MelissaE (anonymous) says...

Well that's just great.

I suppose I should turn off the Metallica CD that is playing in my car right now.........the same CD that my 8 y.o. asks me to play. My 8 y.o. boy with long hair, that is. Heehee. We "rock out" in the car. I see nothing wrong with Metallica even though they're labelled as heavy metal.

As a parent, it's my job to explain what is right and wrong, what's acceptable and not acceptable (in our family).

I have no idea what song was played at the ESU game, but if it was overtly suggestive (as a lot of "(c)RAP" music is) then it was probably in poor taste to play it in a crowd.

However, when we go on family outings (such as a game) it's generally difficult to hear that music anyway because everyone around us is talking/eating, etc. So I probably would have thought nothing of it.

Neighbor, I love that you wrote "(c)RAP" so I had to use it again. I am not a fan of it, either.

Slipandslide: What's wrong with AC/DC's "Highway to Hell"?

To each their own, I guess. I'll think of this when my son and I are "rocking out" to some metal music. :)

M

November 1, 2007 at 10:14 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

EsqEB (anonymous) says...

Playersfan, please put a little something called "punctuation" in your next posts, so I can understand what it is you are trying to say.
As for me loving this music, if you read my first post again (assuming you actually read it the first time), I stated I had to google the lyrics to figure out what it meant. Nice try though. Lay off the personal attacks and stick to the subject. Hopefully, you have not raised your children to attack people with different ideas than their own.

November 1, 2007 at 10:45 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

playersfan (anonymous) says...

To MelissaE-
If that's what you and your family likes jamming to-great you are doing in your car-it is your choice. But in this case-what's exceptable for you may not be exceptable for another family, we all know it is our job as parents to tell them what's right from wrong, But, you can't tell me that there's not more out there that's unexceptable for children. It's unfortunate in ESU there's not much for children to do. sorry!

November 1, 2007 at 10:52 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

EsqEB (anonymous) says...

Equal Rights,
You and playersfan are apparently not reading my posts. I have said several times that it was inappropriate that ESU played this song. I would just like to know how this kid figured out the meaning of the lyrics, if he didn't, then they are just words, some of many hundreds an 8 year old doesn't understand. That is until, his mother writes the paper, makes a huge stink out of the whole deal, and then someone does end up explaining to him, and many other kids, what it means.
In short, I think this lady is making a mountain out of a mole hill. Please do not think I am defending ESU, I would never do that in any situation.

November 1, 2007 at 11:10 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

playersfan (anonymous) says...

I doubt that they will replay this music at the home game this week . Best wishes to you and everyone else.

November 1, 2007 at 11:29 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

eatasheep69 (anonymous) says...

This topic has been discussed at my work today. Not one of the dozen of us employees ranging from 21 to 45 years, including an ESU student and several alumni, knew what this term mentioned above meant. Some of us have even heard the song and/or attended the ESU game. BFD. (Oops! I hope I didn't just offend someone.)

November 1, 2007 at 12:10 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

thomas (anonymous) says...

This whole topic seems to be pretty trivial to me. If you get on the official "Soulja Boy" website you can find the lyrics to the song that is being referred to. According to the website the song says "oh" not "ho". As far as the term "superman" is concerned; I don't know that I have ever heard this used as a sexual term. I have heard this song on the local radio here in Emproia, and have even heard this song played at a Royals game, and have never thought of it to be vulgar or sexist. I suppose if we wanted to break down the lyrics of every song that we hear, we could find a lot of songs that aren't suitable for an 8 year old, but it seems to me that this is someone making a big deal over nothing.

www.souljaboytellem.com

November 1, 2007 at 2:41 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

TruthRising (anonymous) says...

Sounds like Don Imus has found a new job at ESU! What a double standard at ESU! It is OK to say these things?

November 1, 2007 at 4:42 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

emporiahelper (anonymous) says...

Its alright that they played the song at a COLLEGE football game. Its college kids mostly there. An 8 year old wont know what any of it means. People you cant shelter your kids from everything in life. Thats when they grow up to be really wimpy. You should expose them to different things in the world. I guess you shouldnt take them in public ever again because there going to hear it sometime. O and you shouldnt complain because im sure that you have said a naughty ord before infront of your kid once or more than that.

November 1, 2007 at 5:57 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

equalrights (anonymous) says...

It's not about sheltering the children. It's about respect. I am a 26 year old woman that was offended by those lyrics. They are violent, abusive, and inappropriate. I'm in COLLEGE and that song has nothing to do with football, so your excuse that it's a COLLEGE football game means nothing to me.

November 1, 2007 at 7:48 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

emporiahelper (anonymous) says...

No my excuse was that your in COLLEGE and should be old enough to take it. Dont complain because wow it means something bad. Im sure you have said a bad word or 2 in your life. Wow you should be not aloud to speak again. You cant just bag on an artist, the only reason people do bag on them is because well artist like them are rich and I think your just alittle jealous.

November 1, 2007 at 10:19 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

emporiahelper (anonymous) says...

O and respect, you should respect everyone in the world no matter where you are and not use bad language because someone could hear you.

November 1, 2007 at 10:20 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

LilJHawkFan (anonymous) says...

I do agree that that song should not have been played. That is a TERRIBLE song! There are a lot better songs that could be played at a football game.

On another note, the Stingers (dance team) look so classy and great this year! Good job, girls! I like the new uniforms, very classy and not provocative like in the years before! Thank you!

November 1, 2007 at 10:21 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

equalrights (anonymous) says...

Just because I'm in college does not mean I have to 'take' it. How can there ever be social growing, change, and progress if everyone just takes it? As an American and as a WOMAN, I have the right to have my voice heard.
You don't have to agree with me but lyrics about violence are not art it's hate.

PS. Since most of the people on this message board are strangers (or don't know each other) I think it's a little absurd to have personal attacks. Everyone is entitled to use their voice, and they should. That's the beauty of a free country.

November 2, 2007 at 7:59 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

dillon (anonymous) says...

i looked up what it meant and it said that it was about cooking. LOL. Don't know what sight you all are going to, but i guess ONE word could have SEVERAL meanings, it all depends on what you want to teach or learn. Since Stormont got this started we all now have to explain this to our kids because i'm sure they want to know because people are talking about it. Thanks alot Stormont

November 2, 2007 at 10:23 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

tosie (anonymous) says...

I doubt the kids are talking about it....the whole point of this article (and I'm glad she wrote it) is to make ESU accountable for playing inappropriate music at their athletic events. They are family oriented events and the music played should be something positive and upbeat, not degrading and offensive.

November 2, 2007 at 11:05 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

dillon (anonymous) says...

Tosie i agree but a song about cooking shouldn't be inappropriate.

November 2, 2007 at 11:26 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

dillon (anonymous) says...

So people can see how stupid this article is and that Stormont was just trying to get some attention you should all go to the website Thomas posted. I agree 100% with Thomas. Here is what the chorus says in the song that Stormont is mad about.

Chorus:
Soulja Boy off in the (oooooohhh)
Watch me crank it watch me roll
Watch me crant that Soulja Boy
Then superman that (oooooohhh)
Now watch me YUUUAA! (Crank that soulja boy)
Now watch me YUUUAA! (Crank that soulja boy)
Now watch me YUUUAA! (Crank that soulja boy)
Now watch me YUUUAA! (Crank that soulja boy)

wow after reading that i see her point. that is way inappropriate. LOL

November 2, 2007 at 11:49 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

tosie (anonymous) says...

Ok- just so you know, there are a few versions of this song and the one that is played frequently is not what is above and this song is not about cooking...not sure where that came from. Here are the lyrics that are actually played on the radio and at the game last weekend. (and the website for you to check out)

http://artists.letssingit.com/soulja-...

Chorus]
Soulja Boy Off In This Hoe
Watch Me Crank It
Watch Me Roll
Watch Me Crank Dat Soulja Boy
Then Super Man Dat Hoe
Now Watch Me Do
(Crank Dat Soulja Boy)
Now Watch Me Do
(Crank Dat Soulja Boy)
Now Watch Me Do
(Crank Dat Soulja Boy)
Now Watch Me Do
(Crank Dat Soulja Boy)

The article is not stupid and you are ignorant.

November 2, 2007 at 1:04 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

equalrights (anonymous) says...

I completely agree as well tosie!

November 2, 2007 at 1:26 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

dillon (anonymous) says...

I'm sure there are different versions but i was at the game and tosie's version was not the one played. i agree about not having bad songs but when you play the censored version that shouldn't be a problem. and if you have a problem with censored songs then don't go to the game because esu football has enough problems already then to deal with you people. Kstrebuchet please inform me on what was degrading and offensive in the version i heard at the game.

November 2, 2007 at 1:40 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

citizen (anonymous) says...

This reminds me of the Superbowl game I was watching with my son. It was not to watch something without having to worry if someone was going to swear or have sex. Then what happens??? There is a wardrobe malfunction. I couldn't believe it. That was innappropriate and so is this. Keep up the pressure and get an apology.

November 2, 2007 at 1:46 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

dillon (anonymous) says...

I just go off the phone with ESU and they faxed me their statement so i can post it on here.

Dear Fans
Sorry for playing the song. We do not encourage our students, players or staff to superman any hoes out there.

Sincerely Yours

Emporia State

P.S. Can we still play Come On Ride That Train? You here all the time at weddings, radio, school and skateland but we want to make sure its okay.

November 2, 2007 at 1:56 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

dillon (anonymous) says...

kstrebuchet i'm not the one with all the links so it looks like your the one reading the filth you sick o. please keep your porn sites that you look at all the time to yourself.

thanks

November 2, 2007 at 2:05 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

LilJHawkFan (anonymous) says...

OK I read the definition of "Supermanning" a "ho" and I am disgusted. How sick... I feel bad that a representative of the music community has come up with such a strange and idiotic term. It really makes the rap and hip hop culture look bad. Unfortunately, this is not the worse thing I have heard in a rap song. If I had kids, I would explain to them that they are free to choose what music they like, but their choices are a reflection of their integrity, character, thoughts and opinions. I live by this rule, and I hope to someday teach my kids the same thing. I would like to ask parents how they shelter their children from the many degrading, violent and sexual things on TV, radio, and internet? There seems to be so much, how do you keep up?

On another note, I think that ESU football is on the rise, they will get better. Don't turn your back on the team, be a TRUE fan, not a fair weather fan. You can still enjoy the games no matter what music they play. I think that ESU is doing a great job of getting the community together, they should just monitor their music choices a little more closely.

The Stingers and cheer squad look great this year. I enjoy watching the Stingers, and I have heard such great things about their program this year.

November 2, 2007 at 2:05 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

dillon (anonymous) says...

good point liljhawkfan

November 2, 2007 at 2:29 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

tosie (anonymous) says...

Hey Dillon- it's obvious that your views are immature and ignorant. It's sad that you seem to enjoy making fun of families who care about their children and what they listen to. It makes me wonder if it is you who works for ESU and picks the music for athletic events......

November 2, 2007 at 2:34 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

dillon (anonymous) says...

by saying good point to liljhawkfans comments makes me immature and ignorant? to me his comments are about raising children the right way but i guess you have a different style. good luck with you and your family.

November 2, 2007 at 2:41 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

mythoughts (anonymous) says...

Why do they use canned music? There's a live band there, a GOOD band. Why do they have to make it like watching a Pro game on TV (Or playing a video game)? It's a lot more fun without all the macho electronics...

November 2, 2007 at 2:42 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

tosie (anonymous) says...

Still not catching on Dillon- that's not what I was referring to. That's ok- hopefully someday the light bulb may go off.

November 2, 2007 at 3:02 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

netloafer (anonymous) says...

Dillon

You were talking about kids making choice. I think what some were trying to point out was that eight year old kids aren't capable of making choices, nor should they have the unfettered freedom to choose music like what was described in the original piece.

I think the university has a responsibility to the families that attend the games. They did not do well in what they did and they owe those who went an apology.

It's not good enough to say that those who would be offended shouldn't attend or just get over it. This was a public event and the university surely had to know that there would be families with young children there.

November 2, 2007 at 3:03 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

create (anonymous) says...

Dillon says, "...and if you have a problem with censored songs then don't go to the game because esu football has enough problems already then to deal with you people. "

ESU wants and NEEDS to sell tickets to any of its events. The "you people" Dillon is referring to is the ticket-buying public. "You people" are the ones ESU seeks to provide support for its programs. ESU merchandises all of its stuff to "you people."

I am a "you people" and several times a year, I receive phone calls from the alumni association for contributions. I have always contributed generously. I have a right as a supporter of that university to complain about their choice of music, and to insist that they clean it up, especially if little kids are allowed to go to games. I notice that they are not turning away little kids and the tickets they purchase at the gates. ESU owes the public an apology and a promise to TONE IT DOWN!!!

I will be remembering this the next time I receive a phone call from the alumni association looking for a contribution.

November 2, 2007 at 3:05 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

CAFEmporia (anonymous) says...

My dear Kstrebuchet, you have made me a happy man today with your explanatory links. I am weeping . . . Regardless how inappropriate it is to play such music at public football games or for it to get beamed at little kids in whichever version was used, the explanation was, well, perhaps a bit amusing - and a bit sick.

Now, if someone would explain 25 or 6 to 4 . . . I was there, I heard that song, I hummed it over and over . . . But I was naive, I guess.

November 2, 2007 at 4:08 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

MelissaE (anonymous) says...

Okay, I think I agree with the majority. If that song was played, it was in VERY poor taste.

But taste is subjective, I guess.

M

November 2, 2007 at 4:46 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

eatasheep69 (anonymous) says...

CAFE, 25 or 6 to 4 is about the artist reflecting on his acid trip and trying to decide which acid to take next. Two popular kinds at the time were identified as "25" and "624". Look up the lyrics for a more in depth explaination. It's just a song though. How many people enjoy that song (and so many others) without having to know exactly what it means? Wny must it be such a big deal. Tap your toe (not hoe) and enjoy the beat and the atmosphere of the event. Maybe now we all can enjoy some Glenn Miller, John Denver, or Carpenters classics to pump up the team and fans to set the mood for todays game against NWMSU! ( YAWN )

GO HORNETS!

November 3, 2007 at 7:24 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

create (anonymous) says...

Sheep: Why must it always be only one way, your way? Of course we wouldn't want John Denver or Carpenters music to pump up the fans, but Denver itself makes great use of "Rocky Mountain High" so there. The people there seem to like it.

Why can't it be a little of everything? Are you going to tell me that "The 1812 Overture" wouldn't pump people? You're just trying to drag it all to your way with no compromising. ESU was still wrong, wrong, wrong for playing that song.

November 3, 2007 at 9:48 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

hartford (anonymous) says...

LOL! This is amusing to me! For one thing, I doubt the 8 year old boy was even listening to the words at all! If he was I doubt he would even questioned what it meant! Come on people! We can not keep our kids from what they hear or see when we are not around. Yes, she was with her kid this time,,. When they get into jr high or high school, they will hear it all. Unless they attend a Christian school,,,,, oh wait,,,,,, I did attend a Christian school,,,,,WRONG! I was exposed to everthing public kids are, don't let the title fool ya!

So she was offended, I am sorry for that. ESU should pay more attention to what they blast at the football games. But if you don't want to hear cursing or other offensive words and phrases then bring your own chairs and find a secluded place for little Johnny and little Petunia to sit in your controled surrounding!!!

November 3, 2007 at 10:51 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Renegade (anonymous) says...

Well you all...if I didn't know anything about Superman da Ho...I do now.
Thank you Kres. for being so kind as to post the links to help those of us that didn't think to Google it before.

I might have felt the same as Michele if I had taken an 8 year old to the game, and the song was playing.....On the other hand...I probably would have thought it was a song about "Superman"..LOL

I think the song was bad, and it was wrong to play.....but, like everything else....The more you talk about it..and write about it, and complain about it....the more popular it becomes. I wonder how many people have tried to listen to the song, or looked up the lyrics, as a result of this thread..

I think an apology is owed to the community...without doubt....and, just so you know... you don't want to know the lyrics to most rock songs.....I enjoy the music more than the lyrics anyway.

Hartford...I agreed with a lot of your post...except the part about bringing your own chair and finding a place to sit.

I have heard that ESU needs more of the community to support their games....That means they want us to "attend the games"....
So, if they want us there, it's simple.....
KNOCK OFF playing the controversial music. There's a time and place for that....not if you want families of all ages to attend your games.

November 3, 2007 at 11:39 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

slipandslide (anonymous) says...

okay renegade, you are talking like a local now, good job

November 3, 2007 at 5:52 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Renegade (anonymous) says...

thanks slipandslide :-)

November 3, 2007 at 6:11 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Flips (anonymous) says...

Renegade------you go girl!!!!!!!!
I totally agree with slip&slide--------you are sounding more like a native of Emporia more & more every day!!!!!! :)
PS--- I totally agree with you & your comments!

November 3, 2007 at 10:36 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Renegade (anonymous) says...

So funny....Thanks Flips....
That makes me feel better. :-)...I do speak from my heart.

November 4, 2007 at 8:50 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

mmstormont (anonymous) says...

Well, since I wrote the letter I feel I should comment. The point was not that my son sat and listened to the song. It was the fact that he was subjected to it. My main point though was that ANYONE was subjected to this song, regardless of their age. It is offensive and degrading and better judgement should have been used, period. And I have a lot of friends on the football team and I am a huge supporter of ESU and the team. Just so you know some of the players were even disgusted that the song was played. So thank you. And thanks to the people who understood where I was coming from and I still would like an apology from the University!

November 5, 2007 at 12:50 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

mmstormont (anonymous) says...

And no, it was absolutely not the censored version that was played at the game!!!

November 5, 2007 at 1:21 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Dawg (anonymous) says...

If your kid actually knew what the words meant then you need to look at your mothering skills. Apparently they are lacking b/c you allow your kid to know what these things mean. Also I am amazed you understood anything that comes out of that P.A. system I think it is horrible and all muffled I was at that game and all I could here was good for another lyon county state bank first down. Which is a load.

November 7, 2007 at 1:23 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

dillon (anonymous) says...

great point Dawg.

November 7, 2007 at 2:22 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

broncosbaby101 (anonymous) says...

OK for starters I am 28 years old and I never knew what that song ment and to be honest about the situation I like that song...I don't see anything wrong with them playin that song at a football game when you know that now days just about EVERYONE listens to that kind of music...And if you are worried about your 8 year old son listing to that then maybe you need to home school him cause he will learn alot more at school...And not only that Sex is everywhere in the world today billboards, tv, radio, school, downtown, ect....So I have to agree with some of the comments on here I DO NOT let me repeat that DO NOT think that ESU has to nor should apologize to you or anyone else cause if that is the case then the whole world would have to and I don't really think that is going to happen...And not only that you need to look in the mirror and take a look at yourself cause you really aint a good role model if he knew what that ment or if you had to explain it to him...Now all I have to say is Keep up the good music ESU....

November 8, 2007 at 6:36 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

brad_3178 (anonymous) says...

im not real sure why people are interested in the"URBAN"music to begin with.this just being one of the reasons.j.m.o.

November 8, 2007 at 12:42 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

neighbor (anonymous) says...

"And thanks to the people who understood where I was coming from and I still would like an apology from the University!"

Perhaps if you had expressed your dislike for the music and disappointment in hearing it at an ESU ballgame directly to ESU instead of making it a city wide public issue in the Gazette, you may have gotten the response you desired.

November 8, 2007 at 1:20 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

dillon (anonymous) says...

mmstormont is a joke

November 8, 2007 at 2:02 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

playersfan (anonymous) says...

I would hate to see what the world would be like with more DILLION"S, BRONCOBABy101, and DAWG's. And Dillion this is for you-This has nothing to do with wheither they should play the song or not, you are a very negitive person, and love to argue and degrade others. I'm glad I don't know you!

November 8, 2007 at 5:47 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

MrCmonkeeDo (anonymous) says...

MrC thinks Michele M. Stormont is serious and has a very good point. She never stated that her 8 yr old son knew what the lyrics meant or heard them prior to the game. So you peeps questioning her parenting skills need to get off that kick.

In fact, if you think it's appropriate to teach OUR children what it means to Superman Dat Ho, MrC has to question YOUR INTENT. If you don't have children or haven't spent much time around them then you may not know that the little darlings can blurt out the darndest things at the most inappropriate times imaginable. They don't have to understand the meaning of words and phrases, they just wanna be like the big folks and use 'em.

Now just to be clear, MrC has a wife, two adult daughters and a 2 yr old granddaughter and it wouldn't Do to call any one of them a Ho in HIS presence. He's a very passive dude (you can ask anybody) but HE'D slap the piss out of ya for callin' one of HIS girls a Ho and think poorly of you for calling anybody else one.

When i was a child, i spoke as a child, i understood as a child, i thought as a child; but when i became a man, i put away childish things.

November 8, 2007 at 7:14 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

playersfan (anonymous) says...

Awesome, now we are back to respect which I commented in the beginning of this conversation. Yeah fellows, respect! Some of us still believe in compassion and care how others feel, and respect their feelings. Michele M. Stormont I stand by you, I have worked with children for 16 years and children are what make our world go round. I pray that there are more people in this world that do than these "thugs" that do not care enough to respect others, and in this situation in a public setting. CHILDREN THINK AND DO WHAT THEY HEAR AND SEE! Get it??????????????? Thank you MrCMonkeyDo, for putting it in perspective.

November 8, 2007 at 9:54 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

thomas (anonymous) says...

Wow. I can't believe we are still talking about this. Get over it.

November 8, 2007 at 10:14 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

playersfan (anonymous) says...

Ok, it's time for you negitive people to start a new post site, we cannot stop people like you all and how you all tick. It is so apparent that some of the comments are just because you have nothing else to do, and cannot be helped.

November 8, 2007 at 10:22 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

dillon (anonymous) says...

Good one playersfan....................not

November 13, 2007 at 11:15 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

tosie (anonymous) says...

Just one more negative aspect that backs up the reason why I moved out of Emporia - so that if/when I had children they wouldn't have to attend school or work along side the negative people posting above (dillon, greenday, im9803, broncosbaby101). You are all ignorant and really need to grow up! Michelle Stormont, thank you for posting this and I agree with you all the way.

November 13, 2007 at 11:30 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

dillon (anonymous) says...

good point tosie...................not

November 13, 2007 at 12:23 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

glarson (anonymous) says...

Because this thread has topped the 50-comment threshold, it has been frozen and discussion moved to http://www.emporiagazette.com/forums/...

Gwen Larson
Managing Editor
larson@emporiagazette.com

November 18, 2007 at 3:14 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )