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Getting Specific

New housing standards set specific requirements for rental properties

Originally published 02:05 p.m., October 2, 2007
Updated 02:05 p.m., October 2, 2007

When it comes to rental housing, there aren’t many neutrals.

A new policy on Emporia rental standards, which includes landlord licensing and regular inspections, is due to be discussed by the city commission on Oct. 10. The idea is to try to find a way to crack down on the more neglectful landlords without piling too much on the good ones.

Whether that’s been achieved may depend on who you ask.

Enforce the rules

Shirley Eubanks has nothing against livable housing. Every item on the city’s list of standards makes sense to her — working heat, safe wiring, a ceiling without holes in it and all the rest.

What doesn’t make sense, in her eyes, is having the city lay down the law on good and bad landlords alike.

“I’m sure all of my houses would pass all of that,” said Eubanks, a landlord since 1980 who works through Prudential. “But I think the houses that are in disrepair should be closed and they should be corrected. Action needs to be taken against those landlords, but it’s my opinion still that the laws are in effect to do that.”

Ethel Carter, a 12-year-landlord, would agree. She rents out 80 apartments, inspects them twice a year and carefully screens her tenants. And from her perspective, it makes more sense to enforce the old system than to put in a new one.

“They choose not to enforce it,” she said. “It’s hard. It takes effort to find out who’s in violation But why would they want to target the good ones when the bad ones are the ones that need taking care of?”

“It’s wrong to punish the whole class for one child’s misbehavior,” agreed landlord James Scott. “I believe they are sincere. And I believe that they want to clean up Emporia. But have you heard about how ‘You’ll catch more flies with honey than with a flyswatter?’ That’s what they’re trying to do. They’re very sincere, but tunneled in their vision.”

All that licensing fees will do, Carter said, is raise the rent when the cost gets passed down. She also said that she’s disturbed at the “secretiveness” of the Human Relations Commission that created the draft rules. The commission worked on the proposal most of the summer but Carter only found out about it in August. At a September meeting, she said, some members of the commission were reluctant to share details of the proposal because it hadn’t been passed by the city commission yet.

“They asked me, ‘Don’t you want to see better options in Emporia?’”Carter said. “I said of course. But this isn’t the way.”

For Scott, the fee is “a tax without being called a tax.” The federal Department of Housing and Urban Development also sets standards, he noted, but they pay the landlords, not the other way around.

“I think all the good landlords want good housing and safe housing,” Eubanks said. “But this is not the way to go about doing it.”

Raising the bar

Steve Ihde is in an interesting position when it comes to the new standards. He’s a member of the Human Relations Commission. He’s also a landlord.

“In a way, I’m maybe the ultimate middleman,” Ihde joked. “I could write a book: ‘How to Lose Friends and Irritate People.’”

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Unlike some landlords, Ihde sees mostly advantages to the proposed rental standards. By improving Emporia’s housing stock, he said, the city can become more attractive to new arrivals in business and the university and maybe raise overall property values. A regular system of inspections could even protect the landlord, he said, by verifying the condition of the property, thus making it clear when a tenant has been neglectful or destructive.

“Maybe one of the large benefits to a landlord is a fair playing field,” he said. “Two houses could look very similar. Two apartments could look very similar. The average tenant is not a property inspector, they don’t know what they don’t see. You could have one landlord that maintains the infrastructure and one that dresses it up cosmetically. ... A tenant coming in may be willing to pay the same level of rent for both, and that is not a fair playing field to the better landlord.”

On a per-month basis, Ihde said, the costs were pretty nominal — sometimes as low as one or two dollars a month for a particular property. As a tenant or a landlord, he said, the slight extra cost would be worth it to guarantee good housing, accountability and a fair playing field.

“It’s so easy to get wrapped up in the short-term and not see the vision,” he said. “Say I have a property and over 10 years, I’m going to pay $150 and we really improve our housing stock. Is there much chance that the property won’t be worth at least $150 more 10 years from now? That’s a chance I’ll gladly take.”

Members of the commission, he said, discussed the policy among themselves and individually looked for information in the community in putting it together. And it’s still just a draft, he noted, saying there would be plenty more opportunities for public comment once the policy comes before the city commission for consideration.

“I believe there is more support for a fair program than you will hear,” Ihde said. “What do you call it, a silent majority?”

‘A watchful eye’

Craig Reinehr doesn’t deal much with renters in the usual sense. He heads up Emporia State University’s residential life program, overseeing the dorms and the campus-run apartments. But even though about 1,000 students live in those areas, that still leaves a majority of the student body off-campus. A number of students leave campus housing in their freshman year and only a handful come back as juniors.

But even from the sidelines, he knows some of what a student renter may fall into.

“There are a few rentals out there that are sub-standard,” he said. “But once you’re in a lease, you’re stuck and it may not be the best or the healthiest place for them.”

Reinehr has no problem with housing standards. After all, ESU has to meet its own set of rules, overseen by state authorities. Putting rentals on a similar basis, he said, would make it easier for students to compare the values of off-campus and on-campus housing and reassure them that no matter where they go, certain factors will still be accounted for.

“They’ll know going in that there is a minimum set of requirements and that they’re not going to get something that’s worse than this,” Reinehr said. “It’s not so much ‘buyer beware.’”

“We’re under a watchful eye,” he said. “I think all rentals should be that way. And if the city’s doing that, it’s probably a good thing for the students.”

The tenants’ view

Gail Coburn would just as soon not have a “watchful eye.” To her, that violates one of her basic rights as a tenant.

“There’s an inherent right to privacy, to decide when you’ll allow someone to come in your home” said Coburn, a care team manager for community support services at the Mental Health Center who rents her home. “Even once — if you don’t them to do it and you’re compelled, that’s a violation of your rights.”

Coburn is quite aware that there are bad landlords. She’s even had to deal with a couple that tried to take advantage of her clients, claiming falsely that they damaged things. But that needs better enforcement of existing laws, she said, not new ones.

Like some of the landlords, she noted that increased costs to the landlord would mean increased costs to the tenant and that the new system could discourage people from coming to the community.

“It seems to me that something like that would make Emporia a less attractive area for businessmen to own property,” she said. “It’s just one more thing, one more rule.”

“One more rule” would be just fine with Natalia Barb. As a freshman college student whose first apartment had rickety stairs (“I don’t even go down them unless I feel like having an adventure”), faulty appliances and a mushroom growing out of her carpet, she’s more than ready to see some tougher standards in town. And if it means she has to let in an inspector, so be it.

“I don’t mind,” said Barb. “I usually keep the place pretty clean. I don’t mind strangers coming in and looking at my room.”

What really offends her, she said, is that Emporia’s poorer citizens can be treated so badly with little chance of reprisal. In a recent letter to The Gazette, she noted that many Emporians were “living under the power of slumlords in conditions reminiscent of lower Mexico City, because they are destitute and poor.”

The new standards, she said, might offer some hope of change.

The one thing she does find difficult in the new standards, like many, is the additional cost that the tenant could wind up fielding. At the same time, she knows that bad landlords have to be held accountable somehow.

“It’s just a hard situation, I think,” she said. “I kind of wish people would feel they had responsibility.”

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Posted by dcunning (anonymous) on October 2, 2007 at 2:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If there is a ruling that landlords need to go by, let us know. A reminder that all are NOT slum landlords and do the best we can. Many times renters will not tell you about a need to fix things and when they finally do, it is more of a replacement than a repair! Let's see both sides of the fence so we can have equitable renting and peace on both sides!
My son told me when we bought rentals, "try not to rent things mom, that you would not live in". For the most part, when I rent a place, it would be somewhere I could live in!
I agree with an earlier blog, the public would be appalled if they knew the amount of rent we do not get and the excuses we sometimes hear! We check our apartments twice a year now because we have had some horrendous situations that took weeks sometimes to clean or repair.

Posted by slipandslide (anonymous) on October 2, 2007 at 2:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

if the bad lords will clean up their acts the new laws, fines, increased costs and inspections would not be necessary. its common sense to keep properties in living conditions, but a few want to take advantage of poorly enforced laws and tenents who dont want to disrupt their lives long enough to go through the complaint process with the city and landlords.

Posted by rmbcollege (anonymous) on October 2, 2007 at 3:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I know that everyone has been talking about all the BAD landlords and I have looked at several rental properties that I would just NEVER live in because they are not kept up or not cleaned up after a renter moves out and such...however, remember in all of this, there is still good landlords out there. I have lived in ChapelRidge for a total of 2 years now and I think these apartments are a nice place to live and they keep up with maintenance very well. If you have a problem, they fix it in a timely manner. However, there is a big difference in the rent cost for living here compared to others. Also, I think having washer dryer hookups is a big deciding factor for the reason I chose this place over some of the others.

Posted by madpoet (anonymous) on October 2, 2007 at 4 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If there's current rules, they need to bring them to the attention of the renting public. Ditto for any new ones. I rented several apartments in college and looked at some that made me just shudder. I would have loved to bring those awful ones to someone's attention but didn't know who to contact.

Posted by create (anonymous) on October 2, 2007 at 4:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Contacts

City of Emporia
Housing Code Enforcement 343-4275
Human Relations 343-4290

Posted by trashman (anonymous) on October 3, 2007 at 11:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Just looking at the code proposal, item 11 strikes me as a
potential money pit- a lot of places don't have ground fault
outlets in the kitchen areas or baths especially older units.
wasn't required years ago, got into this on a property I
had in KCK, had to update both units of a duplex. Fortunately
I could install. Outlets of this type start at about $10.00 and
go up from there, then figure the cost for an electrician per
hour and very many units @ 2 outlets minimum can add
up in a hurry.

Posted by jodiwayjack (anonymous) on October 3, 2007 at 11:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Dito to dcunning...I am a first time landloard and just had my first tenant break their lease, and leave my house a complete disaster. So far, the repairs and cleaning costs have not been covered by the deposit. Adding another cost for me, means I have to raise the rent. I already do not make any money renting, and that cost has to come from somewhere. They need to enforce what is already written.

Posted by create (anonymous) on October 3, 2007 at 11:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Yes, jodi, they do need to enforce what is already written. Trouble is, they haven't been so we need to hold their feet to the fire so to speak.

By the way, I hope this helps you. I found some help with negligent tenants by getting their social security numbers up front on the lease agreement. It's not a cure all, but has helped me once before when a gal split. She owed rent and left the place a mess. She was still employed in Emporia so I used her social security number to garnish her paycheck. They have forms for that at the court house. It was a last resort for me, but she claimed she was trying to get away from a boyfriend, and that's why she left. Hello? You still owe the rent. You still have to clean up.

Posted by jodiwayjack (anonymous) on October 3, 2007 at 12:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I hope as many people as possible will show up the that commission meeting...unfortunatly, I live out of state, and my Dad takes care of my property for me. I know he will be there. Thanks for the advice on the SSN#.

Posted by 4Jayhawks (anonymous) on October 3, 2007 at 1:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Kansas has a Kansas Landlord and Tenant Act that has these same standards outlined in it. I helped my daughter with some issues in another town and only had to inform the landlord we knew our rights as tenants as outlined in this act and we got it worked out right away without going to court.

Posted by Genesius (anonymous) on October 3, 2007 at 3:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

There are many issues to consider when looking at these possible changes, but I would like to pose another view point.

To sell a house as a realtor, you must be licensed.
To inspect and/ or apraise a house, you must be licensed.
To insure or sell the insurance for a house you must be licensed.
To teach our children, licensed.
To cut, perm, style, etc... hair, licensed.
To practice medicine, Licensed.
To sell alcohol, licensed.

Do you see where I am going? It seems to me that when it comes to something like the shelter of my family, asking someone to be a licensed landlord, to prove to me that I can trust their services- it seems to just make sense.

Posted by admireed (anonymous) on October 3, 2007 at 4:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

License ALL housing not just rental housing. Owner occupied places should be safe for children, visitors...etc.. No one should be allowed to live in substandard conditions.

How about up-to-code requirements for all RE property sales before closing is allowed. Over time this will keep crummy properties from being purchased by landloards to keep them crummier.

Posted by create (anonymous) on October 3, 2007 at 6:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I like your idea about up-to-code requirements for all, admireed, but I thought all real property had to be brought up to code before a sale can take place. Apparently that's not happening because the house down the street from me was sold, the owner settled for a small chunk of money and moved out of town, then the person who bought it flipped it. It's up for sale now. How does that happen? If I want to sell my house, I have to bring it up to code if it already isn't. That's what I've always understood.

Posted by siamesefred (anonymous) on October 4, 2007 at 7:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Sorry, create. But all you really have to do is bring your house up to a standard that a buyer will accept. Someone wanting to do flips will be more than willing to buy a house in substandard condition.

It comes down to negotiation.

If I'm looking to buy a house that needs work, I'll negotiate the price. Either you come down on the price and I do the work after purchase, or I'll pay your price, but require you to do the work before I sign on the dotted line.

Often, buyers would rather negotiate the price down. With a laundry list of 5 key things to repair, perhaps that new owner only really wants the new roof fixed. So, they'll negotiate the price lower based on FIVE things to repair. Then, once they own, only pay to fix the new roof. The buyer has saved money... for now. But all of those repairs eventually need to be made.

Posted by create (anonymous) on October 4, 2007 at 9:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Thanks, siamesefred. Can you explain your final sentence, "But all of those repairs eventually need to be made." Define eventually. Who inspects, if ever, that they were made to code?

Posted by siamesefred (anonymous) on October 5, 2007 at 12:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sorry for the delay, create; just saw your question.

What I meant by "eventually" is my own timetable, not any inspectors. And eventually usually is when I"m sick enough of something to fix it.

For instance, I'll work on roof and gutters long before I'll decide to repair some cabinets if I can still use them.

Let's put it this way... I'm lazy!

It's kind of like an auto accident and deciding what to fix and whether to do it based on how much it costs. A bent fender that costs less than my deductible won't get fixed. Something that affects driving ability or costs more than my deductible will. It's all what we each decide to live with.

Back to houses... Of course, my personal decisions affect the resale of my property. I suppose "eventually" could mean when I'm ready to sell the house. Even then, I'll make the repairs with the greatest potential for return.

Posted by create (anonymous) on October 5, 2007 at 4:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

So in other words, a house has sold, and depending on your whims, it's still not up to code. I'm not being difficult here, siamesefred, but we were discussing code violations. I honestly thought that a house had to be up to code before you could sell it. Wow. I guess I was wrong. You learn something everyday.

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