I will always remember the day a man entered my office to show me pictures that had been taken inside an abortion clinic at 1030 Central in Kansas City. The clinic was called Abortion Affordable operated by abortionist Krishna Rajanna. One picture of the bathroom had a dishwasher used to sterilize surgical instruments which were then left laying exposed next to an open, blood-stained toilet. These pictures were shown with the investigative hearing to the Kansas House Committee March 15, 2005 with Detective William Howard’s testimony. He stated when he entered the abortion clinic “there were dirty dishes in the sink and on the tabletop, trash everywhere, and roaches crawling across the countertops, with a stench in the room. Frankly, I was reluctant to sit down.” “Aborted fetuses were placed inside Styrofoam cups and put in the refrigerator freezer next to TV dinners.” “His hands were dirty, and clothes stained.” His staff members described Rajanna as a filthy man and “actually witnessed Rajanna microwave one of the aborted fetuses and stir it into his lunch.” “I thought I had heard and seen every vile, disgusting crime scene but was in for a new shock when I started this investigation.” Much later, visits from the Kansas Board of Healing Arts discovered further atrocities including a dead rodent in the clinic hallway, dirty carpets in the surgery room, failure to follow Anesthesiologist’s Guidelines, medication violations, and many others. Several of us in the legislature tried to get an inspection of the clinic from both the KBHA or the Kansas Department of Health and Environment to no avail. We were flatly refused. I authored a clinic licensure bill that followed the recommendations of Planned Parenthood but the battle against the bill was hard fought. After testifying in the Senate Health Committee, I was approached by a young 16-year-old student who was visiting the Capitol and was very interested in the bill. She told me her sister had been killed having a legal abortion and encouraged me strongly to keep on fighting. I spoke to her afterwards at her school and she told me she could never talk about it again because her mom took her sister in for the abortion. The torment and shame her mother must feel is profound. They say abortions are safe, rare, and legal but after having the bill I authored overturned by the Supreme Court, who can have confidence back-alley abortions are not committed by licensed cannibals who do not practice or work in a sterile environment? When I was arguing the bill on the floor of the House, two legislators came approached me that day from Johnson County saying there was another similar clinic at 735 Central. The folks that are working to prevent Value Them Both from passing did not care about clean abortion clinics then and I guess they still don’t.

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MWS

I agree with the Democrats. Abortion should be dangerous, frequent and dirty. They should be allowed to murder babies as they come down the birth canal. Baby parts should be sold to BigPharma. All citizens should be forced to pay for abortions. Fetus' should mandatorily be vaccinated. I think abortion should be used as birth control. I think school children should be allowed abortions and sex change surgery in grade school without their parents knowledge.. I think babies accidentally born alive should be allowed to die on the counter and their body parts sold to BigPharma. People who have a conscience are just not open minded enough. They need to get with the program.

Fremon

In the near future Medical Science will develop a safe, reliable technique to simply suspend a girls fertility and "turn it back on" when she has matured and is ready to begin her family. This most certainly won't be acceptable either. While the accidental conceptions could be eliminated, fears of rampant promiscuity would put a stop to this. Even though there could be no more "fetal voices" to speak for or "Baby Killers" to rally against, it would then be obvious that the whole purpose of the pro-life movement has been to scare children and control "sinning". This may be a lofty, though impractical goal, as the "Church" does not make the laws in our Democracy. So one day, when "the Church" is finally in charge of the laws, then exactly whose church will it be? A battle for another day.

Aim_High

It's called an IUD, and it's already unacceptable among the nutjobs.

Fremon

I was hoping we would eventually hear from our friends to explain their objections to preventing pregnancy via IUDs,. Maybe after services tomorrow.

Ricky

Interesting

Aim_High

Safe and clean clinics would have been shut down if the YES vote won, and would have ultimately lead to the return of dirty, unsafe "black market" abortions. Now Kansas needs to figure out how to make sure these nutjobs can't attempt another attack on womens rights again in the future.

Ricky

Laughed at nut jobs, coming from someone who loves to see innocent unborn babies killed. Who’s the nut job?

Fremon

One of the confusing aspect of this issue for me is that; Most people by far, on either side, feel that if the female has proven herself to have been raped, then she has not "sinned", and the "baby" can be ended.......???? At least that's some kind of consensus.

Aim_High

Mental gymnastics are a must.

Aim_High

Ricky, the only nerve you've hit is my funny bone, lol. You always make me laugh.

You say "It should have exceptions for rape incest in the life of the mother" but you went ahead and voted in favor of the amendment anyways. You knew the proposed bill had no such exception for rape or incest...

Saying you will "feel bad about it" is not "sympathizing with mothers who face possibly having a baby from rape or incest". If you truly sympathize with them, you would have voted "no".

You can't just claim a 10 year old rape victim has a right to abortion and then vote against those rights, and not expect to catch any flack for it. I feel bad for the unborn, sure. But I also feel bad and will stand up for women and child sex abuse victims. I would never knowingly attempt to trample on their rights like you did. Have a good weekend Ricky.

Dilly919

With the issue now decided (for now at any rate), the dismemberment abortions that had been outlawed by Senate bill 95, approved by both houses of the Kansas legislature, was overturned by the Kansas Supreme Court and a subsequent legal ruling. Try hose rulings paved the way the 450 or so dismemberment abortions per year since the rulings

While some are saying there was no language in the amendment concerning rape, incest, or the health and life of the mother, the amendment itself says otherwise:

Section 1. The following proposition to amend the constitution of the state of Kansas shall be submitted to the qualified electors of the state for their approval or rejection: The bill of rights of the constitution of the state of Kansas is hereby amended by adding a new section to read as follows:

“§ 22. Regulation of abortion. Because Kansans value both women and children, the constitution of the state of Kansas does not require government funding of abortion and does not create or secure a right to abortion. To the extent permitted by the constitution of the United States, the people, through their elected state representatives and state senators, may pass laws regarding abortion, including, but not limited to, laws that account for circumstances of pregnancy resulting from rape or incest, or circumstances of necessity to save the life of the mother.”

Be that as it may, the mayhem will continue.

I think Ricky understands he’s in the line of fire, with some of that fire malicious and unwarranted.

i’m glad there are people like him who have the courage of their convictions and are willing to be vilified for those convictions. He may not have the honey dripping tongue, straight teeth and crooked smiles of his adversaries, but his convictions come to him honestly. Good for him!!!!!

Aim_High

I said there was no exception made in the bill for rape or incest, and there's not. The only exception was for the life of the mother. Also, "the people, through their elected state representatives and state senators, may pass laws regarding abortion, including, but not limited to, laws that account for circumstances of pregnancy resulting from rape or incest, or circumstances of necessity to save the life of the mother" does not mean an exception must be made... it only means the legislature would have the right to legislate all abortions, including rape, incest, etc... The only guaranteed exception for rape or incest was a no vote. The bill proves the legislatures intent was to ban all abortion except to save the life of the mother.

Dilly919

The intent of the legislature to make legal provision to protect women in cases of rape, incest, or the health of the mother was clear, as was a desire to end the grisly practice of dismemberment abortion. That was all undone by the Hodes ruling ruling and the ruling that followed Hodes.

And, so, the dismemberments will continue. Unborn children will be torn limb from limb. That’s the real bottom line here. You may not find that troubling, but I do.

I’ve said all I need to say to you. Any further dialogue with you would be pointless.

Aim_High

You're sadly mistaken, Dilly. The bill recently introduced had no exception for rape or incest, which proves the legislatures intent was to not make any legal provision for rape or incest. The only exception in the bill was to save the life of the mother. I provided you the link to the bill proving this is in my earlier comment below. If you know of other current abortion legislation that does include the exceptions you're claiming, I'd love to see it.

Hodes was unfortunate, sure. Science says a fetus can't truly feel pain until week 24, differing opinions from other scientists say its closer to week 20. Chances are most fetuses don't actually experience any pain without their nervous system being connected to the cortex. Some unfortunately probably do experience some pain. I think 23 weeks is high, and could be lowered some, but not an outright abortion ban like was being plotted to end "abortion as birth control". The Kansas constitution is very moderate and Value them Both was very extreme.

I've also said everything I need to say to you (twice now). I've provided proof that you are wrong. Any further dialogue with you would be pointless unless it involves you some actual evidence for your claims.

Aim_High

The bill I am referring to is HB 2746.

http://www.kslegislature.org/li/b2021_22/measures/documents/hb2746_00_0000.pdf

This is what a YES outcome would have led to. Child victims being denied healthcare.

Fremon

I am glad to see there doesn't seem to be any concerted efforts of claims of the election being stolen. There is the typical finger pointing and sour grapes, but I haven't seen any real challenges. But, the dumbfounded, clueless reaction of our doctored-up version of a US Senator, Roger Marshall showed his total lack of knowing his constituents. Maybe in the next five years he can develop a better understanding of who he's working for.... but I'm doubtful, he may have to go.

Ricky

They cannot handle the truth, that’s why they’re always trying to change the subject and blame the religions. Instead of just looking at themselves and know that they’re wrong and not admit that there is a human life involved every time there’s an abortion.

Aim_High

I don't blame religion(s), there are plenty of churches who value women and their right to choose. I do however think the Catholic church was wrong to fund such an extreme amendment, and I think they were wrong for lying about their actual goal. The legislation that was to be voted on if the amendment passed did not include exceptions for rape or incest, which is extreme and unacceptable. A YES vote is a vote that would have supported forcing child rape victims to birth their attackers child, something Jesus would not be happy about.

Thankfully Democrats and moderate Republicans prevented this extremist amendment put forth by the Catholic church from passing. It's nice to see Republicans and Democrats can finally agree on something, I'm just kinda surprised its abortion rights.

A little bonus gem fresh from the Value Them Both website:

"Sadly, the mainstream media propelled the left’s false narrative, contributing to the confusion that misled Kansans about the amendment. While the outcome is not what we hoped, our movement and campaign have proven our resolve and commitment. We will not abandon women and babies."

They wrote the amendment in a confusing way, and now blame "the left" for the confusion, lol.

Ricky

You’re the one that’s confused. You need to keep your opinions in Colorado where they belong and stay out of Kansas issues. Can’t trust somebody who takes advantage of his employer by Wasting time and money.

Aim_High

Your anger feeds my happiness. Cleanup on aisle 4!

Ricky

Your hatred toward the Catholic Church is very interesting you must’ve had an experience to hate them so much. You always and only criticize the Catholic Church on this issue when I know of plenty of other religions who supported the value of them both issue. Again keep your opinions in Colorado where they belong.

Fremon

Ah, Ricky, There's that "raw nerve" of Bygone days. Desperate, laughable personal attacks that would embarrass and humiliate most. Just the sore loser that I imagined. Nothing Personal,

Aim_High

The Catholic church funded the majority of Value Them Both... of course other churches fell for their scam, but I don't blame them the same way I do the mastermind and financial backer. I didn't have any problem with any churches before VTB, but now I see Catholics as political extremists who do not value womens rights and will lie to try and get what they want. These feelings are completely reactionary to my "experience with them." Hate is a strong word. I don't hate anyone.

Also I don't see why you think my opinion shouldn't matter because I don't reside there... I don't see you demanding the archbishop of oklahoma city keep his opinions in Oklahoma, and I don't see you telling Dilly to keep is opinion in Missouri... You just want to silence the voices you disagree with? You catholics have "an unwarranted sense of entitlement, or are overly-emotional, easily offended, and unable to deal with opposing opinions." Keep your opinions in church where they belong.

Ricky

Seems like I struck a nerve also you always accusing me of that. When it comes to you accusing pro life supporters of not valuing life is laughable. I’m pretty certain that the 50 million babies that have been killed in the last 50 years is enormously more than the lives of women who have died based on your reasoning. You have no value of life at all when it comes to innocent and defenseless babies. You have not once said anything about feeling bad for the all those 50 million who have been killed. That shows where you are when it comes to valuing life. There is no comparison.

Ricky

As far as outside interference into any states election should not be allowed so I agree with you on that that you and the Oklahoma bishop along with any financial aid coming in should stay out. Each state should have to account for their own financial and personal opinions, but obviously I know that is something that will never happen. Just like the Democrat party right now is trying to influence certain house of representatives, Senate, governors races in some states by supporting the extreme right candidate. I believe that is wrong to do and it’s funny that actually MSMBC agrees with that. Never thought that they would agree with me on something.

Aim_High

Like I've said before, you couldn't hit a nerve if you were a neurosurgeon, lol. The bill in the legislature did not include exceptions for rape or incest cases. The link to the bill was provided to you... It's not my fault you didn't read it and were uneducated about the amendment you were supporting. Thank God 10 year old rape victims will not be subjected to extremist beliefs like yours.

Fremon

Ricky, I do admire your dogged determination and absolute conviction in pursuing your ideals in the face of overwhelming and apparently deniable headwinds of logic, fairness and common sense. It is ALL about Faith. Ideas about love and kindness seem to vary widely. Jake and Elwood would be proud of you on "Your Mission for God".

Ricky

Yep, it’s sure pretty positive that it’s hit a nerve you can just tell by how you react. I admit it hits a nerve on someone will not actually admit that there are defenseless babies being killed. I will admit it bothers me that if a state pursues a law that doesn’t allow for exceptions that I will Feel bad about that. It should have exceptions for rape incest in the life of the mother I’ve said that before and you keep ignoring that. There has not been one state so far that has completely banned abortion. Kansas is going to be no different. You’ll feel better if you were just finally admit that it bothers you that there are innocent babies being killed. It won’t change your stance anymore than you accusing me of not sympathizing with mothers Who face possibly having a baby from rape or incest.

LibertyTruth

The Health, Safety, and Inspection laws for abortion clinics that were enacted into law in 2011 as a response to the pictures and testimony about the conditions of Rajanna's clinic was struck down as "unconstitutional" this past December due to the declared right to abortion in our state constitution. That means Kansas currently does not have any health, safety, and inspection requirements for abortions.

"Supporters of abortion insist that it is just another health care procedure and should be treated as such. Yet they have nonetheless succeeded in ensuring that abortion is treated differently — radically differently — than any other procedure in health care. Indeed, there is no analogy in American life to the abortion industry and how it operates outside of the normal moral and legal universe inhabited by the rest of society. Look no further than the fact that veterinary clinics in Kansas are more strictly regulated than abortion clinics. No veterinarian, nor barber, nor short order cook could have escaped severe penalization had they maintained anything like the work environment found at the abortion-providing Affordable Medicine Clinic in Kansas City, Kan., in 2003."

Fremon

If only "The Abortion Industry" and "The Anti-Abortion Industrial Complex" would honestly work together for the actual health and well being of women and girls instead of using it to divide us to garner more and more power for the Conservative causes, then their combined resources could have an actual humane and productive result. Honest education, as always, remains the key. It seems that in this battle, the churches fill the pews, and the "Right" fills it's coffers and adds many voters on these impassioned tales. I also don't believe that these election day releases of horror stories help anyone.

Aim_High

This is another Value Them Both lie. Abortion clinics in Kansas face regulation from the Kansas Department of Health and Environment and the Kansas State Board of Healing Arts. The law you are referring to which was struck down as unconstitutional was the law which required abortion providers to have inspections that other medical providers aren’t subject to, unnecessary staffing requirements, and patient health records being accessible to state departments.

To claim "Kansas currently does not have any health, safety, and inspection requirements for abortions" is just a plain silly lie.

Fremon

Yes Peggy, This IS hard to believe. This seems to be the go to example, along with numerous embellishments which so many point to, A quick search reveals numerous record keeping infractions and the guy seemed to be a slob. He was understandably shut down and fined, but not criminally charged. This seems very lenient for a "Cannibal". This is America where we can "fill in the blanks" however we feel we must. But then, with so much emotion tied to this issue it does seem that "The End Justifies the Means".

Ricky

Filling in the blanks is something you do well, problem is you’re wrong most of the time.

LibertyTruth

Correction, not 2015. 2011

LibertyTruth

I agree, it is hard to believe. That is why I took the time to research the information in the article and it is true. The testimony of Detective Howard can be found in the state legislative archives. The numerous violations are on the official citations by the Kansas Board of Healing Arts. He was not criminally charged because there are no laws against eating a fetus and there were no health and safety standards nor required inspections for abortion clinics. That law was enacted in 2015 and was just declared "unconstitutional" in December 2021.

Alfred

This opinion piece reminds me of Gosnell

cyberspace

No matter the outcome of the Amendment, we need to educate our students about the reproductive system. Ignorance solves nothing! We need to focus on prevention to reduce the need for abortion. We need to provide education on contraception and provide access to contraception to all women who choose. Above all, we need to maintain a woman's freedom to make her own decisions about reproductive health care. It is about Choice. It is about FREEDOM over one's body. Let's keep abortion safe, legal and RARE.

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