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glarson (anonymous) says...

More on the original letter:

http://www.emporiagazette.com/news/20...

August 4, 2009 at 4:43 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

Come on Gwen?

You cut me off in mid-stream!

August 4, 2009 at 4:46 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

open_eyes (anonymous) says...

LMAO!!!!!!!! :)

August 4, 2009 at 4:47 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

crackinsack
It is you who keeps the smoking ban debate alive and well with remarks such as, smokers have a filthy habit, thereby lumping smokers into the catagory as filthy people who do filthy things. Crack you are the one that will not let the smoking debate alone. I bet you even kick a sleeping dog every chance you get.

August 4, 2009 at 5:01 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

JUST JOKING ?

August 4, 2009 at 5:03 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

giggles (anonymous) says...

Crack, you forget about business leaving town, that was noted as a problem also.

Furthermore, why do you think anyone is going to put any merit into your analogies when others have given you many good analogies in the past and you flippantly ignore them? I for one will disregard any analogy you put forth reasons being twofold. One: your comparisons lack in both scale and common sense. Two: you have chosen to ignore any well laid analogy put before you.

You claim to have done nothing wrong, but putting forth information whether public or not wasn't your business.

To be more precise, here is a good definition for you...

nosey \nosey\ adj.
Offensively or intrusively curious; prying; nosy; as, a nosy
neighbor.

Yes, you can get information if you look, but the real question is, should you?

August 4, 2009 at 5:03 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

yev_kassem (anonymous) says...

methusla-

The merits of the smoking ban have been discussed ad nauseum. There is no need to keep reflecting on the past. I am sure you still have hurt feelings over the matter but what is done is done. Let's try and move forward and discuss the topic at hand.

August 4, 2009 at 5:13 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

Crack, sorry I couldn't respond but I, like others feel your action was very poor concerning the above article and i.e./ person.
Fist: If she wanted her location given, she should have been the one to do so.
Second: If she wanted police intervention, again, if is up to HER!
Third: I'm not sure how many "People Speak" have been written by various people, do you think they would ALL want their address posted to the world? By the "rules" set forth, you are required to "sign" your name.
Fourth: Please, for once, admit you over stepped bounds by posting such. That again, should be the "choice" of the author and law.
Fifth: Funny how NO one has "RIGHTS" or "CHOICES" but you. You repeatly "down" certain people for their post but yet, we are to accept yours as absolute word. Something wrong with this picture?

August 4, 2009 at 5:22 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

Topic at hand.

yev_kessem writes...."The individual is reponsible for his or her own actions, whether that be smoking or drinking or urinating in public." Might I add one more.....outing a woman who obviously didn't want outed just to satisfy her desire for revenge.

crack can cry crocodile tears about how she just wanted to help until the cows come home. But after having read hundreds of her posts by now, I and anyone else with a brain know better. It was revenge...pure and simple.

August 4, 2009 at 5:23 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

open_eyes, sorry, afraid I'm out of touch. What does "LMAO" mean?I have found that I am out of touch concerning various aspects of life but I truly couldn't figure that one out. I will admit that at an email I received, I didn't have a clue what some letters ment, called a friend, then wished I hadn't!!!!

August 4, 2009 at 5:52 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

THANKS!!! YY4U. Gee, I WILL get modern concerning the use of letters instead of words. Guess showing my age!

August 4, 2009 at 6:03 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

open_eyes (anonymous) says...

Yes, YY4U, that's exactly what I was laughing off.......... :) thx for clarifying for sandman :)

biscuitboy, after reading hundreds of crack's posts...... like I've said..... just give her more rope....she'll do the rest.....

PS - YY4U - I understood clearly every word of your last post. Didn't even need you-know-who to come swooping in from the ivory tower to correct you and hang herself for our amusement :)

August 4, 2009 at 6:46 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

create (anonymous) says...

Kwit pickin' on me, open_eyes. LOL

sandman, loved your post about getting modern using letters instead of words. Made me smile big time. Thanks. I remember my parents wondering what "That's cool" meant.

Yes, YY4U, I echo open_eyes. Thanks for clarifying for sandman.

giggles, I agree with you. Any of us could have looked up Erica's information or even have posted it on the forum. The fact is we didn't because we have scruples.

August 4, 2009 at 7:31 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

gabby (anonymous) says...

Does anyone know for sure that crapinsack is a female? Just curious, because I really thought it was a HE.

August 4, 2009 at 7:33 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

ouch.

time to cool down everyone.

August 4, 2009 at 8:03 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

MisterO (anonymous) says...

So...apparently it's ok to post someone's address and a Google Map to their house because it's public info. I reported the links that crackhead posted, but they are still there.

So...let's find out just HOW ok it is:

Gwen Larson
Rt 2 BOX 134C
Emporia, KS 66801
(620) 342-8202

Chris Walker
2039 Road G
Emporia, KS 6680
(620) 342-1881
http://maps.google.com/maps?li=rwp&q=...

Brandy Nance
1879 RD E M
EMPORIA, KS 66801

Teresa L Walters
2850 Rio Vista Dr
Emporia, KS 66801

Hey...it's public info for anyone who cares to look for it If it's OK for crackhead to do this, we should all be able to, right?

What do you think, Gwen? By not removing crackinsack's post, you are implying that posting public info is ok. How do you feel about it now that your home address has been posted?

August 4, 2009 at 8:08 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

MisterO (anonymous) says...

Crackinsack...what's your real name? I bet there's a few people who would like to know your address, too.

Or do you feel that posting your address and a link to a map of your house is only ok if YOU do it?

August 4, 2009 at 8:11 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...

If you want to get a post pulled quick, post where Warren Beatty lives and say something not nice about one of his feature motion pictures. That will make the Gazette staff really angry. True story.

Seriously R. Folks

August 4, 2009 at 8:20 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

Ok, guys, I called a friend and asked her what the meaning was of those letters and she didn't have a clue. Oops, forgot she is the same age as as I, woe is me!!!
Afraid I don't "tex" as some but in having a "Little" knowledge concerning such, believe that is how they communicate

I sincerely feel for Erica and hope something can be done. I would hate "my corner of the world" to be tarnished by inappropriate actions of others. Also, her children are a major concern.

August 4, 2009 at 8:26 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

open_eyes (anonymous) says...

I don't know how often Gwen or whoever it is that moderates/checks these forums trolls them looking for inappropriate posts or violations of the Terms, but it is possible that they just haven't checked them for a bit. I sincerely hope that all personal information posted against someone's wishes will be removed as soon as notice is taken of it.

Sandman, I also profess ignorance of many of the shorthands when they first cropped up. Took me awhile to "get in the swing of things", so to speak, and there are still many I'm unfamiliar with, so don't feel bad :). Us old folks that can go more than an hour without texting totally meaninglesss "Yo, what's up" every 30 seconds to our friends just aren't hip enough, I guess - LOL

August 4, 2009 at 10:12 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

open_eyes;

I think it sould be,
YO?^

August 5, 2009 at 2:58 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

I second open_eye's post...when I started I kept wondering what lol mean't until I finally had to ask. Also didn't know how to get a paragraph on a computer keyboard. Once you get the hang of it they get easier to figure out...but somebody still throws a zinger in there at times.

Did anybody else notice that all the Gazette staff lived in the county.....while the county commish lived in the city. What up with that? :-)

August 5, 2009 at 4:25 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

neighbor (anonymous) says...

Mr O, the first address you listed is wrong, there are no such addresses as Rt#2 anymore. She won't care that you posted that one. You really should get a newer phone book friend. :)

August 5, 2009 at 6:01 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

open_eyes and biscuitboy, Yes, this gal is trying to stay "up" with "what's happening" in our world today and will admit you, as of lately, have been a large part of that education. In my day, it was "piglatin", now that I could understand!! (Oops, NOW really telling my age!!!!)

open_eyes, I so agree concerning "inappropriate" information
within this blog and hope it is removed. I honestly wonder if Erica even KNOWS what has been done or the Gazette staff,county commissioner.

Yes, I did note location of addresses, but really, how could the county commissioner ralley so very hard for the Smoking Ban if she couldn't vote? Regardless of the fact that MANY were not able to vote. "Life is a Wonderment!!" BUT I'll still take the country life!!!!!

August 5, 2009 at 6:02 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

It's entirely possible she doesn't know......most people who read these forums would most likely also vent through them rather than use the slower People Speak format But The People Speak probably reaches a larger audience.

I have sometimes thought the forum probably consist of only 20-30 hotheads all arguing with each other in the wilderness. :-)

Whatever the case, I certainly hope she suffers no retribution due to the unthinking carelessness, or worse, of one of us. One thing for sure...if she does....it will be more due to cracky's precious drinkers.....than her hated smokers.

neighbor.....I too wondered about that Route 2....but decided not to mention it.

August 5, 2009 at 6:24 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

sandman......

The county commish rallied so hard for the smoking ban because the smoking ban in Emporia was Step One......The Smoking Ban in the county is Step 2

August 5, 2009 at 6:28 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

biscuitboy,
You could be VERY correct concerning Step 2, but sincerely hope SHE keeps it in her world and not in MINE. Just as crack does upon occasion, that would be over stepping boundaries. Also, since Emporia is PART of Lyon County, would not a "revote" make the current ban invalid in Emporia? Would she chance "loseing"? "Time will tell.

August 5, 2009 at 7:21 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

I must (uncharacteristicaly) plead ignorance as to how a county vote would affect a city vote. My gut feeling however might be that the city vote would still stand. My reason for thinking that is that if the opposite were true I think the anti-ban forces would have allready been pushing for a vote of a county ban. You know...nothing to lose...everything to gain.

August 5, 2009 at 7:56 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

open_eyes (anonymous) says...

Some people just don't get it. Amazing.

August 5, 2009 at 9:34 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...

crack
Gwen has to be covert at times(when undercover working on startlin' exposes uncovering burglary rings in and around Emporia) so her info might be hard to find. If you do find it please don't post it as it could hinder her work that is beneficial for us all.

Seriously R. folks

August 5, 2009 at 9:48 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

gabby (anonymous) says...

Crappy....Whether you're serious, and this information is right, or wrong...you are really crazy!....Have I mentioned Crapinsack..that you're full of it????????

August 5, 2009 at 10:34 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

driveonby (anonymous) says...

IF peeing and smoking go so well together why not allow peeing and smoking in bathrooms? I get the DISTINCT impression that crocky IS Teresa. And she does her tirades on grant money time. Since smoking IS allowed outside why not drop by HER house and say howdy, en masse? WHY wasn't the business loss story on the online version? Teresa is NOT the only villain in the pro ban, anti business rights story. The paper and Gwen should be very proud of the part they played in promoting the ban. After all, THEY decided to print ONLY pro ban studies, such as, (the one I like best) that business would soar after a ban. THEY decided to print four days before the election the propaganda of Hellebust out of Topeka, who conveniently disappeared from her office in Topeka til after the election. The paper KNEW that this "study" would influence the election, and they printed it WITHOUT research or questions of any kind. We should expect lunacy and misrepresations from goofballs and grant funded hacks, BUT NOT FROM A NEWSPAPER who, I thought, prided itself on excellance in journalism! To the Gazette, BOTH sides of an issue is what interests readers. And when open mindedness and honesty are required by management of all news employees, you have respect and integrity.

August 5, 2009 at 10:41 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

kcfan (anonymous) says...

OMG! I really can't believe you guys are being so petty on here. It was bad enough that Crack put the girls personal info out on the web, but you guys who were bashing for that have gone and done the same thing! (PS - crack this in NO way assumes that I think that you are right, I completly, 100% disagree with every slimy, antagonistic word you spew)

Yes most of this info is public and can be found on numerous social networking sites, but you don't openly discuss someones personal info in a public forum. Good old common sense and manners apply.

In the day and age that we live in, this is reckless and careless. Identity theft is so prevalent these days, this is just irresponsible. Stop being right fighters and go back to the Golden Rules and have some social respect, unless this how you would act without the cover of your screen names. Your all being tools!

'Posting your birthday on Facebook could help identity thieves predict your Social Security number, a new study finds.'
http://www.informationweek.com/news/s...

August 5, 2009 at 11:55 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

crackinsack writes....."If I see one of my neighbors being harmed I'm going to step in an stop it. If that means calling the police to report a crime, then that's what I'll do."

So why didn't you you self righteous old crone. Had you called the police to report the problem all of this could have been avoided. But no...that would not have made crackinsack the center of all this attention. And the attention she is getting from this is the most important thing to her.....not the smoking ban...not Erica's problems.....nor Erica's safety......but the "hey, everybody, look at me."

She loves this stuff and the more we respond to her the more she loves it. It's like these washed up fading movie stars.....bad press is better than no press at all.

You want to hit crackinsack where she lives.....quit responding to anything she says. Ignore her completely....no matter how much she raves...Ignore it. That will drive her over the edge.

August 5, 2009 at 12:51 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

gabby (anonymous) says...

Crackinsack....You're a crazy lunatic and charming poet?...What you say is sometimes so wrong, and offensive, but, you enjoy it all so much!!!. With the exception of posting, for real, someones personal information, and personal insults, you actually can be entertaining at times! Thanks for the poem...and, I'll take your advice..."mind my own business..and go 'bout my day!"...LOL.. You might take some of your own advice though...................Until next time!........:-)

August 5, 2009 at 1:01 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

open_eyes (anonymous) says...

Oh, just give her some more rope and enjoy the show. She obviously is totally oblivious to what she is doing with it.

I would imagine though, in that tiny little 8x8 padded cell, that one has to create somewhat of a fantasy world where you rule and the occasional cockroaches that intrude into your kingdom are your lowly minions. You have your hick cockroach, your Jesus Freak cockroach, etc.........

August 5, 2009 at 1:05 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

gabby (anonymous) says...

biscuitboy...You're so right...Crackinsack believes any attention is better than no attention....and he/she apparently is very lonley. :-(..(and already over the edge)......There's not much to do in those padded rooms..Apparently, they're providing computers now....
Ooops...sorry...I was going to mind my own business, and go 'bout my day....

August 5, 2009 at 1:09 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

You were pretty sure of where the crime occurred when you hung Erica's address out for all the world to see....BABY!

August 5, 2009 at 1:20 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

kcfan (anonymous) says...

Again you try and turn others words around and put th espotlight on yourself. What I said was 'Yes most of this info is PUBLIC and can be found on numerous social networking sites, but you don't openly discuss someones personal info in a public forum. Good old common sense and manners apply.'

We all know where we could have found this girls info and probably more, BUT the difference is that by posting it in this particular thread you have opened up an inevitable Pandora's box. This also applies to the others who so carelessly posted others personal information. iit's called IDENTITY THEFT people and it is catastrophic to your life!

And I guess I still disagree with you...the Chiefs and Royals are not great...BUT the can and will be again. Doesn't make me any less of a fan and if asked I will still go to bat for em over any other team (well the Chiefs at least), but they really have let us fans down the last few years. Hopefully this new season is going to go in our favor. here's hoping for a productive training camp in Minn! Go Chiefs!

August 5, 2009 at 1:30 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

If our self-centered little lonely girl had really wanted to help her victim she could have called the police and perhaps called their attention to the problem. She might have said something like.....I know where this girl lives and even though its none of my business....maybe you can get her some relief.

I did something very similair to that with a situation in my neighborhood and increased patrols did a lot of good. But other than the police I talked to..nobody else was ever aware of my role at all. That's why this approach would have never occurred to our little lonely girl.

That is why she uses all those derogatory phrases like Jesus freaks to illicit response....and why she never acknowldges any support that might be occasionally offered. To her this is all about her......and we are her unwitting pawns.

August 5, 2009 at 1:51 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

open_eyes (anonymous) says...

biscuit, you & I and others here are just doling out the rope...... can't help what she chooses to regularly do with it, obvious to all but her. Who is really the unwitting one? - LOL ;-)

August 5, 2009 at 2:25 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

open_eyes (anonymous) says...

I think a "Dessert" Eagle is a sweet gun you shoot after the main course...... lol

August 5, 2009 at 3:17 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

Crack, you are a bigger fool then I thought. You seem to delight in putting others information out for the world to see, hasn't it EVER crossed your mind that someone could TRACK you? You seem to think that you can "hide" but in reality, if someone DID want to find you, it WOULD be quite simple, just knowing the proper steps to take. If I were you, I'd watch my "backside". Now, is this a threat? No, I'm only saying reality. I realize at times, you crawl out of that hole, perhaps, you better crawl in and STAY plus keeping your mouth shut and hands still. You are not better then God and he was nailed to the cross according to the bible. You truly don't know who are reading these blogs and you just might set someone off. I'm only trying to warn you to tread lightly, you have set some fires you may not be able to put out.

August 5, 2009 at 3:22 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

open_eyes, I like that!!! "Dessert" Eagle, especially firing after a main course, sounds fun!!! Does it have much of a "kick"?

August 5, 2009 at 3:38 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

So Erica might have been making it all up or exagerating......therefore not wise to call the police because it might have been a hoax. So instead we make it easy for any rimjob to find her by posting her vitals all over the place. Vitals rimjob can easily now obtain (remember rimjob is not very bright on his own) since we have done all the work for him.

Now that revenge has been extracted for challenging the wisdom of our precious smoking ban....and we start to catch heat for the callous cruelty of our plan we must fall back to covering our expossed tail section. So now we start crying about how we were only trying to help a poor neighbor in need and look what we've had to suffer for it.

So what was it crackinsack? Was it a hoax that needed to be revealed and revenge extracted....or was it an unfortunate victim of those nasty smokers that needed our kindness and protection? Which one was it.....but it can't be both. Which one? I'm betting it was the first one just like I predicted at the begining.

Which one Crackinsack?

August 5, 2009 at 3:40 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

open_eyes (anonymous) says...

sandman, isn't it so obvious how anytime a word that either wouldn't be in a spell-checker or is spelled correctly but in the wrong place isn't caught? :)
So.....if a person feels the overpowering need to always run a spell-checker....... just so they can constantly belittle those who are confident enough that they don't feel the need to bother or worry about it.......... well it's just another piece of rope, isn't it? :)

August 5, 2009 at 3:44 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

I am in no way supporting violence against anyone.....in any way. I have known violence in my life....and believe me...it only begets more violence.

August 5, 2009 at 3:51 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

open_eyes, You are so very correct concerning the "rope" and I would think crack has just about used it all!!! (for now!)

Also, correct concerning spelling. Believe EVERONE knows I'm a terrible speller, especially if I'm tired, brain just doesn't work as well. Gee! could also be age!!! I so appreciate the posters on here for they put up with me, except crack, gee, another subject!!!

You posters are AWESOME! I have learned so much. Truly enjoyed the one concerning our health crisis, learned so much. Tis so very grand when we can "debate" and learn from each other. So sad that cracks brain doesn't absorb much. You know I enjoy you for your knowledge but also your sense of humor, LOVE IT!!!

August 5, 2009 at 4:03 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

open_eyes, forgot to mention, the spelling being right or wrong doesn't truly say the knowledge of that person or the character. I'm sure we have ALL noticed at one time a "goof" by each one of us, but you are so correct, we are sure enough of ourselves not to WORRY! We'll leave that to crack.

August 5, 2009 at 4:19 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

biscuitboy, I don't believe any of us are supporting violence.
When I wrote to crack concerning guarding "backside" that could also have very legal implications with the information she has posted concerening OTHER people. Stupid actions on cracks part COULD cause more problems then ever perceived.

I'm sorry you have known violence at anytime in your life. That is very sad. You are so very correct when you state that violence only births more violence and nothing is won.

August 5, 2009 at 4:29 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jcook66801 (anonymous) says...

IT took me two seconds, using 411.com, to find Erica's address. How private can this information be?

I think folks are lobbing bricks back and forth at each other just to have something to throw. The ban is in place. How about we now find a topic worth debating?

August 5, 2009 at 5:46 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

sandman

Don't get me wrong about my violence post. I am not one of these gun-hating...everybody just love each other wingnuts. I wish things could be like that, but I have lived long enough to know they are not.

There comes a time when defensive violence may be all you have left. Then you are fool if you don't use it, and a dead fool if you won't. But that is really what I mean't by violence begetting violence. When somebody chooses to settle disputes by turning to violence they invite reciprical defensive violence. That in turn becomes offensive violence...and on and on we go. Soon you have a blood fued...and nobody wins one of those.

August 5, 2009 at 7:48 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

open_eyes (anonymous) says...

No crack, I didn't miss a thing. We all know what a flimsy childish ploy your constant "just kidding's" are, and everyone sees right through it except apparently you. I also never miss your constant put-downs and then acting like you were the first to be so chastised, or your constant derogatory stereotypes followed nearly immediately by accusations of others stereotyping (you are constantly reinforcing and cementing your position as the perfect poster child of hypocrisy). It is just stunning, to pretty much everyone here, how totally blind you are to yourself in your own little egomaniacal world. It's amazing how often Emperor Crack looks in the full-length mirror and see's a lavish Superman cape and outfit, while everyone else sees, well..... a whole lotta "crack" (use your imagination there :). And quite humorous at times :)

Sandman, (going to toot my own horn a second just to make a point) - as someone who once won a county and placed fairly well in a state spelling bee, I misspell more often from fat-fingered or sticky-keys or typing in a hurry than actually missing the word. And really don't worry about it much. As you said, I don't feel so small that I have to jump on such petty things and trumpet them as superiority. Besides, my spelling bees were long ago, I'm sure words have gotten much more complex since the simple grunts and that we cave-men used commonly back then (I think my winning word was "Ug", actually - LOL).

It's also true that many non-religious people are some of the most dangerous you will ever encounter. Their total lack of any guiding morals or ethics make them completely evil and untrustworthy in any situation. (Yes, I know how completely stupid and moronic those last 2 statements are, but sometimes you have to drop down to crack's level of constant stereotypes to answer in kind).

You're right, the rope is getting old. I'll start giving crack a shovel so she can dig her hole deeper and deeper.

jcook, many here realize that. Many don't. The point isn't about whether or not anyone can find it if they know how, it was more about decency and respect. See my third paragraph in this post for a better explanation. Some people are just simply clueless. All you can do for them is try to make sure the shovel handles or ropes aren't rotted, because because it's a certainty what they'll do with them, you'd just hate for them to even muck that up :)

August 5, 2009 at 7:56 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

open_eyes (anonymous) says...

The double "because" above was because..........????? I'm gonna guess highlight/delete error........

Or it could have been a glitch in "The Matrix"........... :)

August 5, 2009 at 8:04 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

open_eyes, All I can say is "Right On!" Always such a super job!!! You don't need to "toot" your own horn, a number of us on here will do that for you. I figured the double "because" was just showing us you are human also. As you can tell that thru these various debates I have grown to respect you for your knowledge and sense of humor. Thanks for making this an enjoyable visit, you and others. At one time I was so very
tired of crack and the remarks he makes but I came back mainly to read and learn from the rest of you.

August 5, 2009 at 9:16 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...

OK, forgive my ignorance but you guys keep talking about a "ban". What's that all about? They don't let me out much ...... I mean ......................I don't get out much.

Seriously R. Folks

August 5, 2009 at 9:23 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

Ban,

as in Ban deoderant. Handy roll on, keeps you fresh. Or:

Ban, as in LOGJAM ban, it's a fresh group.

August 5, 2009 at 9:37 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

biscuitboy, You are another one that is usually "Right on", also Meth. Yes, I understood what you were talking about when mentioning violence. Violence can come in so many forms and reasons. Most of us don't like violence, but at times it is necessary, such as war. You have made some super points but also some very human points,points that we need to teach our children. Would be so wonderful if as a world we could all "love" each other but as animals, that is not always possible.

August 5, 2009 at 10:02 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

Steve_Corbin, SUPER response!!! Do they STILL make Ban deoderant?

August 5, 2009 at 10:06 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jcook66801 (anonymous) says...

"it was more about decency and respect."

Are you kidding? Decency and respect have long been absent from these forums. People on both sides of this issue have made a game out of trying to figure out who is who. Erica is just the latest victim/participant.

August 5, 2009 at 11:09 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...

Now Logjam I have heard about!

Long live Chaps!

August 5, 2009 at 11:26 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

seriously....the home called and said to tell you to come home now.

August 6, 2009 at 4:03 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

open_eyes (anonymous) says...

Jcook - "am I kidding"?

No......... there's a difference between the conversations that take place on here between anonymous posters, and deciding to post someone's personal information. For instance........ I might (and sometimes do) - get hot under the collar and pretty sarcastic at someone....... but I'm not gonna go dig up personal information beyond what they willingly disclose and post it. What's next? Posting social security numbers? Can you see the difference? If not........ are YOU kidding me?

August 6, 2009 at 7:24 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

open_eyes (anonymous) says...

Even in a boxing contest, while you're trying to beat the living crap out of your opponent........ there are still rules..........

Aren't there?

August 6, 2009 at 7:36 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

Exactly...its not that this information isn't readily available to anyone with the desiere and the computer savy to ferret it out....but it is taking it upon your self to throw
it out there for any and everybody to see when the person at risk has expressed no intention of wanting that.

I have little doubt that a moderately skilled hacker might be able to enter the gazette system and learn all of our identities....including crackinsack's. Would they then be justified in posting all of that data? I would certainly hope not.....well...except for crack's. Might serve her right.

By the way....she seems to have a lot of personal data at her disposal. It may be just another of her ruse's......or it may be readilly available. I hope however we don't find that she is misusing some access she might have to priviledge information.

Oh and incidentally fruitcake......addresses are part of the information included in Vital Statistics......not vital signs.

Third shift...vital signs.....privledged information.....Hmmmmm.

August 6, 2009 at 7:45 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

create (anonymous) says...

Don't try to shift blame, crack. The fact of the matter is YOU were wrong to disclose Erica's address. It's a matter of having scruples, and you have none.

August 6, 2009 at 9:09 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

The fact of the matter crack is, the smoking ban is and has caused problems for the City of Emporia, citizens of Emporia, businesses and business owners of Emporia and you and the ban smoking brigade, just don't want to admit that this unnecessary ban was a harm causing mistake of your own selfish and controlling desires and wants !

August 6, 2009 at 9:15 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...

This is why Logjam didn't believe in the internet. All your info just floatin' 'round there in the cyderspace. I was unable to reveal any of the vast majority of the bunches of knowledge that I has within' my big archives about Logjam until there publicistizer guy, Gladdy "gladdy to a meet ya" O'mertz, released the floodgates of my knowledge of the greatest band ever in the world Logjam by releaseing fake stories to this and other newspapers about fictional but literal "log jams". You see the point in all this is that I waited till I got the go ahead from "gladdy ta a meet ya" before I started releasing info on the greatest band in the world ever Logjam. Logjam is fortunate enough to have an army of computer savy fellas that both work real hard on their state of the art Texas Instrument computers scouring the world wide inter web deleting any unauthorized info on the greatest band in the world ever Logjam. The point in all this is that Erica probably doesn't have guys with Texas Instrument computers and skills to protect her from internet scumbags and she probably doesn't want someone helping the scumbags even if it is just a little.

Seriously R. Folks

August 6, 2009 at 9:21 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

Oh, and since the smoking ban is causing " HARM " to a lot of people, perhaps we should ban the harm causing smoking ban, since in cracks own words " it is causing unnecessary harm to others ! "

August 6, 2009 at 9:21 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

open_eyes (anonymous) says...

We can all agree that whether or not Erica was right or wrong to place blame on the ban is a point to discuss. In other words, we can agree to agree or disagree on it, and discuss it. Just because you disagree with something does not make it automatically wrong, but you have every right to your own opinion - just as we all do.

August 6, 2009 at 9:23 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

crack, you remind me of a ten year old child in trying to learn right from wrong and you just don't have the mental capabilities to do so. First, you ask, did Erica smoke? PLEASE reread the original article inwhich she states that she had quit awhile back, which shows your underestand is not up where it should be..There is so much stupidity in your post not sure I can answer all for you. Second, Can you prove the smoking ban did any harm to the city? Wake up and smell either roses or coffee. It shouldn't take much even for your limit mind to understand the city budget is in a low. That was even in the newspaper last evening how they were trying to figure budget. You are going to say, you can't prove it but all you have to do is ask the bar owners "Is there business the same as BEFORE the ban?" You state the city law says you can't sell liquior on Sunday and then rant concerning breaking the law. That shouldn't be hard for you, you did each time you went into a smoking bar and didn't care for smoking.. Remember," crack goes where she wants, when she wants."
Your post, as usual, has so many holes in it, that there isn't much left behind. And YES, Erica stated as she felt and must had prove to support her statement. Who do you think
you are to judge Erica in anyway, shape or form? What a fool you are!!!!!!

August 6, 2009 at 10:47 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

crack,
Can you absolutely prove, without a doubt, with unbiased statistics, that smoking was harming all the population of Emporia and that the quality of life of everyone has been improved by the smoking ban ? Lets see some statistics that absolutely prove the quality of life of all Emporians has been improved by the smoking ban !
You are always demanding proof or statistics that are not biased, so come on crack, put up or shut up !
You are so deluded that you believe that, a loss of business, tax revenues and possibly jobs are a necessary thing for you to get what you want . You are a very crass selfish person !

August 6, 2009 at 10:52 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

Crack, before you can reply, Yes, I reread my post and noted several "goofs". Guess I'm very human and shouldn't get mad but truly amazes me when YOU want to put the blame on someone else and NOT this smoking ban, then place that persons information of the "World Wide Net", what a NUT!!!!

August 6, 2009 at 10:53 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

yev_kassem (anonymous) says...

Sorry to say it but crack is right. The article has nothing to do with crackinsack posting someone's info, it has to do blaming the ban on a completely different violation.

Whether or not crack's decision to post her information was right or not is completely irrelevant to the article.

In an attempt to get back on track, is there anything being done about what Erica was exposed to?

August 6, 2009 at 11:03 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

Crack, OK, 3rd shift Newman Hospital. How is maintenance going?

August 6, 2009 at 11:10 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

open_eyes (anonymous) says...

"It's about Erica incorrectly saying the ban is to blame".....

"It’s ("It's"???) sounds like you are saying we all can’t agree that she is wrong because you feel she isn’t, right?"

I never said whether I agreed or not, but obviously some do and some do not.

But I never heard a thunderclap, saw clouds parting, and a hand pointing down from the heavens with a chorus of angels singing "IT IS THUS" when you made your statement, nor have I seen any legislation passed by Emporia ("man") proclaiming that crack is always correct. Let me know when you get enough signatures on your petition to have that put on the ballot, I'll be very interested to see how the vote goes. We've got Exhibits A thru something like ZZZZ ready to present in opposition. We woulda stopped at D or E but you just keep taking the rope and shovels...... (sigh).....

August 6, 2009 at 11:12 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

I think the problem with Erica and her neighbor is being worked out between the two of them. All our arguing on here hasn't done any constructive good, (except to vent).
What else is new in Emporia?

Well, there is a Liquor Store for sale on East 6th Ave. for those of you that use the google thingy. Then a petition could be presented to the city commission for Sunday sales.
I'd sign it.

August 6, 2009 at 11:15 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

jcook66801 (anonymous) says...

Open eyes: Please tell me what rule Crack broke. He might have acted in poor test, but so do many of the other posters on this list. I don't condon what he did, but I don't see the harm, either. Heck, it is no worse than the name-calling that goes on here every day.

Erica certainly had no expectation of privacy when she put her name on a letter that was published in a public forum. Her address is out there for God and everyone to see. That's hardly private information.

Methusla: While I am opposed to the ban, I fell to see who has been harmed by it:

We smokers? No one has taken away our right to smoke.

The bar owners? It's about survival of the fittest. And in this case, the fittest are those who adapt to change.

Erica? When you post your opinion in ink, best be prepared to have some of it blown back in your face.

Rather than beat up Crack for something he did or did not do, how about we further this discussion in a way that is productive and still to the real issue?

August 6, 2009 at 11:16 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

open_eyes (anonymous) says...

You're right, yev, the original article had nothing to do with cracks posting info, but that does not excuse it.

What crack did was wrong, and she is too immature, childish and full of her massive ego to admit it. And everyone can see that as plain as day, but her.

However, when someone pops a "floater" in the pool, you can't blame people for getting distracted from practicing their backstroke :)

August 6, 2009 at 11:19 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

jcook66801 (anonymous) says...

Methusla: "Can you absolutely prove, without a doubt, with unbiased statistics, that smoking was harming all the population of Emporia and that the quality of life of everyone has been improved by the smoking ban ? Lets see some statistics that absolutely prove the quality of life of all Emporians has been improved by the smoking ban !"

Methusla: Do you really expect that the smoking ban will improve ALL the lives of EVERY Emporian? That, my smoking friend, is pretty far fetched. I'm pretty sure there are some newborns at Newman and bed-ridden patients at some of our nursing homes that will not be impacted in any way by the ban. How about a reasonable challenge instead of an impossible one. But if you insist, please prove to me the existance of God...beyond a doubt.

Geez, now you got me talking like a pro-ban Emporian. That sucks.

August 6, 2009 at 11:24 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

open_eyes (anonymous) says...

jcook, I never said she broke an iron-clad rule, but I will respectfully disagree on name-calling and arguing anonymously being compared to posting info, whether or not it is available publicly, without the user's consent. I don't see anywhere in the User Agreement where I can't post someone's credit card number, and heck, anyone that works at a restaurant can get that, but lets just agree to say that you think it is no different and I think it is. If someone wants to post personal info, that is their business, and how much of it they want to divulge on here is also up to them. Not someone else. After all, its obvious that cracks definition of "poor taste" (along with prejudice, stereotyping, racism, humility, self-awareness, and a host of other things) is quite a bit different from most others.

August 6, 2009 at 11:25 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

jcook66801 (anonymous) says...

"public officials have the authority to enter a private business open to the public to enforce the indoor smoking ban. This opens the door to expanded enforcement of other laws already on the books ..."

YY, officials had this authority before the ban. It's called the health department...

August 6, 2009 at 11:26 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

open_eyes (anonymous) says...

St Thomas of Aquinas and his 5 Postulates would be something to ponder for starters, jcook: Or can you prove to me, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that God does NOT exist?
I'm not trying to push my views on anyone in that area. Just asking for the same proof that you are. Sounds fair enough to me :)

August 6, 2009 at 11:29 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

jcook66801 (anonymous) says...

"Or can you prove to me, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that God does NOT exist?"

I can't...either way. No one can, without a doubt, prove or disprove the existence of God. And that's my point. It is an impossible challenge. And neither can someone prove that the ban has improved the quality of life for EVERYONE in Emporia, as Methusla has asked.

August 6, 2009 at 11:49 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

crackinsack....every post you have made this morning proves my contention from the very begining that what you did was all about revenge for this woman making a claim about your ban that you disagreed with. It never had anything to do with your wanting to help her at all. Can we all just agree on that?

Once we can agree on that then I would be willing to discuss what you want us to agree on. But before you answer...please go back and reread your post today. Anybody that does so will see as plain as day that it was always revenge.....never your wanting to help a poor neighbor in need.

That is the part thart makes me mad. That is the reason I can't let this rest.

August 6, 2009 at 12:39 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

maintenence workers with computer savy working third shift at the hospital might well have more access to hospital computers and privledged information than we might ever want to believe,...Huh

August 6, 2009 at 12:44 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jcook66801 (anonymous) says...

Sorry biscuitboy. I've read and re-read the posts on this forum. I don't see this as revenge. Poor taste? Yes. Revenge? No.

Why hasn't anyone taken O to task for posting the addresses of the Gazette folks and others. If what Crack did was wrong, it would also be wrong for O.

Irregardless of my view of the ban, I still contend this is about using what ever is available to attack Crack. And open-eyes, a publicly-listed address is hardly personal information. In fact, it is for the public's use to locate an individuals residence or business. To compare that to a credit card number, which is clearly private (as in not displayed in public view) is wrong.

August 6, 2009 at 12:49 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jcook66801 (anonymous) says...

Unless, of course, you have your credit card number posted on the outside of your house.

August 6, 2009 at 12:50 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

yev_kassem (anonymous) says...

jcook66801--

Glad to see you have joined the party and brought some logic and common sense with you.

I really think you hit the nail on the head when you said that " I still contend this is about using whatever is available to attack Crack".

We, (anyone who posts on here) are so far off topic it's ridiculous.

I am glad to see that Steve said that there have at least been some actual preliminary discussions about how to address the problem.

However, there are a few entertaining posts. I like seriously's posts about logjam....thank you Steve for bringing that back.

I also like this gem "However, when someone pops a "floater" in the pool, you can't blame people for getting distracted from practicing their backstroke :)

August 6, 2009 at 1:04 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

open_eyes (anonymous) says...

jcook, it can also be public information where a person works and what hours they work. But, as has been in the news lately, people broadcasting that publicly on twitter, for instance, has led to a rise in robberies and so forth. Let the thieves look it up themselves, don't broadcast it for them. It's still poor taste. Maybe next time crack should ask Erica to be specific and leave the choice up to her.

August 6, 2009 at 1:16 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

crack,
The City Commissioners and County Commissioners have both stated at public meetings that sales tax revenues are down considerabley, which means that part of the drop in sales tax revenues is due to the drop in sales tax from liquor sales from bars, etc. that used to allow smoking, which translates to loss of customers because of the smoking ban. Ask any business owner in Emporia that used to allow smoking, if their business is as good now than it was before the smoking ban.
Also the smokers that used to smoke inside are now forced outside where everyone passing by said smokers are now exposed to the alleged harmful SHS that were not exposed before, hence more people are actually being allegedly harmed by the smoking ban than were ever allegedly being harmed before the smoking ban. There is your proof of harm the smoking ban is causing ! There you have it 2X2=4 ! Were you able to follow that, or is it to complicated for your one track reasoning ?
As far as SHS being proved to be harmful, that proof has been proven by myself and others to be suspect and biased at best !
And jcook66801, my friend ! I do not smoke, have not smoked for over 25 years now, so don't assume anything by my posts. Also I only asked crack a question about her/his statement, " The smoking ban is doing more good than harm and that is indisputable." , cracks words not mine and this statement carries the" conotation " that the smoking ban is benefitting all citizens of Emporia and the City of Emporia itself. Which I happen to disagree, that the smoking ban is in fact doing more good than harm and that it is indeed an indisputable fact !

August 6, 2009 at 1:49 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...

What exactly is the "good" that has come out of this ban? Logjams break up can arguable be attributed to smoking bans because of bar closings and low numbers at shows in bars which is where they made most of their money. It's going to take a lot of "good" to make up for this. Are the ban proponents going to go to Mudbug and reopen the Nehi soda factory so Chaps can get his job back? Didn't think so! So what is this "good"? Show Logjam the money!

August 6, 2009 at 2:17 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jcook66801 (anonymous) says...

Eyes....yes, it is poor taste. On that we clearly agree. Yes, a street address is public information, unless the owner chooses to make it private. Clearly, Erica has not made that choice. Work schedules are not, however, public information. Companies are under no obligation to release that information. Unlike street addresses, companies don't put that information on the outside of their buildings or print them in books that are distributed to nearly everyone in the community.

Methusla: I doubt that anyone really cares whether you are one of us. It is your position on the ban that matters. You asked Crack, "Can you absolutely prove, without a doubt, with unbiased statistics, that smoking was harming all the population of Emporia and that the quality of life of everyone has been improved by the smoking ban ?" That's not just a question, it is a challenge -- one that cannot be met. Asking someone to do the impossible in an attempt to discredit them is a dirty trick at best and worse, in my opinion, than simply posting an address. If you want honest debate, than play fair. If you want to lie and cheat, then please take it somewhere else.

Had the debate on the ban prior to the vote been approached with facts and not misleading or disinformation, I believe the ban would have failed. Attempts at deception such as yours are the reason we must now take our smokes to the street. Thank you for your help.

August 6, 2009 at 2:26 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

Likewise crack,
Do you have figures that prove the smoking ban has no blame whatsoever for the down turn in business at the places that used to allow smoking .. If so, please share.
And are you at least taking some blame for what ever harm those citizens who are exposed to by the smokers being forced outside, who were not exposed before the smoking ban, as per your comment " Outdoors, more people theoretically could be exposed to the smokers, but the concentration and amount of SHS exposure is miniscule. " Please remember, according to your and the CAEs argument before the ban, was, quote, " there is no safe amount of exposure to SHS, smoking or smokers . " Do you remember that being the main part of your argument for a smoking ban ? Or do you now have some sort of " selective memory loss " ?

August 6, 2009 at 3:09 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

yev_kassem (anonymous) says...

methusla--

You should be a politician. Hell, maybe you are. You avoid questions like the plague. I think you get your jollies off by trying to hit that 3000 character limitation the Gazette puts on us.

The question is not about how to try and shut crackinsack up, or how do we get the ban repealled by beating a deadhorse.

Why don't we all move past the fact that the smoking ban is in place and look for ways to help the businesses through the tough times, regardless of the reason, and why don't we try and help people like Erica deal with the situations at hand and stop trying to blame something that we can't do anything about. Let's move forward. So I ask...

What can be done to help the businesses that are struggling?

What can we do to make sure Erica and others are not exposed to what she was exposed to?

August 6, 2009 at 3:41 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

open_eyes (anonymous) says...

Well, other than get lost in the fine print of how many plants advertise the shift hours, for instance, when publicly posting job ads, you did remind me of a small tidbit I ran across recently about the Tyson plant in Shelbyville, Tenn. They recently opted (union employees only) to trade Labor Day for a Ramadan Holiday. The 2 things that caught my eye most in the article were 1) the decision was a “contractual agreement” rather than a “religious accommodation", (sounds more like a contractual agreement OF a religious accomodation to me, but I have no problem with it actually - I think the workers should be able to modify it for some holidays that they want, I just have to laugh at the wording, and 2) The Tyson Plant in Shelbyville is also the only Tyson facility that has a Muslim Prayer Room for the convenience of its workers.
I guess that means they closed down the Muslim Prayer Room at the Emporia plant, for obvious purposes.

Anyway, sorry to stray, jcook, just jogged my memory for a bit of interesting info that (used to anyway) be of interest to some bloggers here.....

August 6, 2009 at 3:53 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

open_eyes (anonymous) says...

Actually, it doesn't sound like this version of the band Logjam plays in the types of venues crack attributes to them.... they look pretty healthy to me.....

http://www.logjam.dk/bandet.asp?sprog=1

What was the original thread about? Oh, yeah, now I remember. Crack being a politician hitting the 3,000 char limit. And spinning everything till we all get dizzy & fall down. Or maybe it was someone else :)

August 6, 2009 at 3:59 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

open_eyes (anonymous) says...

I would have added maybe even me, but I'm already dizzy. Crack thought I was dancing around something but it was just to the tunes of this band.... :)

August 6, 2009 at 4:02 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

I don't agree that all of this is so far off topic. Erica's original topic was problems she was incurring at her home that she hadn't incurred prior to enactment of the smoking ban. She then blamed the smoking ban for those problems.

A couple of people took exception to Erica's cause-effect scenario...an exception that certainly was not without some merit. Then crack enter the fray and upped the ante...not only in the level of hostility department....but also by
feeling it necesary to broadcast Erica's home address for all to see whether they really wanted to our not.

I believe that makes crack's action very much a part of the topic. Has her action generated an unusually high level of anger towards her.....you bet it has. But if you have been following this thread from its inception......and have seen the pit bull debate tactics frequently employed by her you might better understand the source of the anger.

She has strutted and bragged and rubbed her victory in the face of the losers without remorse with only an occasional "I was only kidding" thrown in when things got to hot.

It may not be right....and it may not be fair......and she has certainly not been the only pit bull...but she is also only getting what she gives so well.

August 6, 2009 at 5:17 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

You were probably only kidding...but electric fences are very illegal in the city. They can be quite dangerous to small children and pets.

August 6, 2009 at 5:24 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

Crack, Thank You! and I'm very sincere! I have a precious dog that is so very lovable, much more so then some humans that I'[ve come into contact with. Also, you are a "snoop" and must feel others lives are so much more interesting then yours that you have stooped to putting THEIR information on the net. Being a maintenance worker COULD allow you the time to be so or I wouldn't put it past you to "snoop" where you had NO RIGHT to be.

snoop-to pry in a sly or intrusive manner.

stoop-to lower oneself

These you have done while possibly putting others in danger while you feel that action "builds" you up. Sorry, it does just the oppisite to most of us posters.

We will NEVER agree concerning the smoking ban and its ill affects. Yes, congrads! You may have "won" but you are not the winner.

August 6, 2009 at 5:44 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jcook66801 (anonymous) says...

Sandman, you missed the point. It's about.....oh, hell with it. Never mind.

August 6, 2009 at 5:54 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

yev_kassem
Thank you very much. I learned the art of evading answering questions from the very best at it. Professor crackinsack, " professor of the longwinded evading, spinning, evade the question at all costs, turn it around, double talk, who by the way just happens to be the very best at evading direct answers to direct questions .
And no I am not a politician.
And to answer your question as to how to help the former smoking allowed businesses ! The answer is a very simple one . Repeal the smoking ban, thereby returning to the old tried, true and fair practice of every one using their own decision making abilities concerning their own health, etc., that is if they have any logical decision making abilities and not just selfish, selfcentered, controlling attitudes, wants and needs.
How was that for an answer !

August 6, 2009 at 6:45 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

P.S.
Oh and by the way, since Erica had no problem before the smoking ban, it would stand to reason, repealing the smoking ban would ileminate her problem also, don' t you think !

August 6, 2009 at 6:47 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...

Not only that but what about the time the crack spider popped a cap in that other spider and took his web. Well that wasn't really because of a smoking ban ............ but still.

August 6, 2009 at 7:23 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

I agree the smoking ban was not the cause of Erica's immediate problem. Erica's problem was directly caused by rude, inconsiderate, probably drunk people that had been forced outside to smoke....[a legal activity by the way].....by the smoking ban.So while not the direct cause of the problem, the smoking ban absolutely does have a causual affect on the problem.

The fact that this issue has been lost in the discussion however is a direct result of crackinsack's action. So the change in topic is totally her fault. Had she not taken the action she did.....the topic would not have been switched.

August 6, 2009 at 7:27 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

seriouslyfolks....you still haven't reported back to the home yet.....Yo gonna be in big trouble boy....

August 6, 2009 at 7:30 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...

They're gonna have to catch me this time! ;)

August 6, 2009 at 7:38 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

jcook66801, please enlighten me as to what the exact point has been about. Also, I believe if you read in the original article it states that she DIDN'T have this problem before the ban and had lived beside the bar at that time.

Waiting for your response.

August 6, 2009 at 8:47 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

open_eyes (anonymous) says...

hey sandman - just happened to see this article on yahoo - what great timing:

Article on the rise of the email "shorthands" like LOL and so forth, rather humorous story about how many people don't know what many of them mean and how they found out, with a list of common ones, links, etc........ thought you might enjoy it :)

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001...

August 6, 2009 at 9:38 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

open_eyes, THANKS!! Couldn't sleep and this super informative article was awaiting! This "ole" gal just might get it yet!!!!!(Have my doubts though!) Will need to purchase a new Webster for they say it has terms in the 2009 edition.

Also, looked up "St. Thomas of Aguinas". Very interesting. You aren't thinking of "Priesthood"-Be absolutely NO fun!!! At first I thought you had typed " 5 Prostitutes" and thought he would have had more fun with my first interpretation but NOT the Catholic faith I know!

August 7, 2009 at 1:03 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

open_eyes, on a more serious note. I went to various searches of St. Thomas and found it truly interesting.
Locating the five Attributes, Cardinal virtues etc. Was amazed at the number of articles. Will say crack doesn't seem to possess any.

August 7, 2009 at 2:18 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

Prostitutes....now there is an interesting thought...and five of them no less!

August 7, 2009 at 4:28 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

crack,
Did you actually read and absorb the content of YY4Us list of smoking ban related incidences ? Everyone of these tragic happenings had a direct correlation to the smoking ban, in one way or another and having to go outside to smoke and one incident was attributed to the smoking ban by the police in a Manhattan, New York nightclub and the cause of Ericas problems !
So crack, admit it , your beloved smoking ban is an absolute and definative trouble maker and causer of harm and stop trying to defend yourself and others for a terrible mistake you made, with stupid logic and comments !

August 7, 2009 at 8:33 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...

Logjam breaking up was definitely because of smoking bands which is ironic because they were a smoking band.
I just blew your mind, man! Whoa!

Seriously R. Folks
Too groovy for gravy! What?!?

August 7, 2009 at 9:13 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

crack,
You are so dead set on controlling other peoples lives, etc., that you will not admit that the smoking ban does indeed cause problems and harm, even when examples of the harm caused by a smoking ban, smacks you in the face, even in your own community as well as across the country !

August 7, 2009 at 9:14 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

open_eyes (anonymous) says...

Good point, seriously - normally Christian bands don't frequent smoke-filled bars, but if crack says its so then it must be! (not) :)

August 7, 2009 at 9:23 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

crack,
I will admit that all forms of people are killed all the time, everyday and crimes of all sorts are done against all of us everday, but it is becoming apparantly clear that a smoking ban increases the chance of these crimes being committed and has succeeded in making smokers the target of criminals who may be ban smoking zealots and non-smokers, as well as smokers. My point is this smoking ban crusade has and may well have been the cause of an increase in the crime rate of this country !

August 7, 2009 at 9:28 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

crack, you said "the harm was caused by choices made by people", now, wasn't this smoking ban a choice made by people? Sorry, but your statement "blinded by hatred towards me" still stands. Crack, you have repeated various times that what you want is people not harming others but yet, you continually go out of your way to do so rather it be actions or words,THEN you think we should believe your statement. You are a very sad individual who never learned how to play with the kids in the school yard therefore have very poor social skills as an adult. This insight concerning you I have gained by your various post on these blogs. When someone takes their right and disagrees with you, you come unglued and then the hatred is shown by YOU.

August 7, 2009 at 10:37 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

open_eyes (anonymous) says...

LOL & you're welcome, sandman. No, not considering the Priesthood!!!!!

St Thomas of Aquinas & his "5" are pretty much required study in any Philosophy class...... at least it was in my day....

August 7, 2009 at 10:42 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

open_eyes, glad to hear you aren't considering the "priesthood" because in my thinking that would be such a lonely life. I must not have had any Philosophy classes at anytime,gee, with all I took you would have thought so, so again "Thank You" for that part of my education for I did find it very interesting
how one part connects into another.

Also, the article concerning "shorthand", guess we have done this for years, i.e. CIA,DNA and I was in JAG when I was in the military and hadn't really thought about that use until reading the article.

August 7, 2009 at 11:17 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

We will be entering the "crackfree timezone" soon and everyone can get some much needed down-time. Ah the good ole days, I remember them like they were yesterday. Actually, before last September none of us was arguing about this were we?

August 7, 2009 at 12:13 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

giggles (anonymous) says...

Crackfree timezone= awesomeness!!

August 7, 2009 at 12:26 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

crack....just a couple of responses to things you said this morning.....direct correlation. I do agree with you as I said last evening that the smoking ban did not directly cause Erica's problem....but unless you are totally blind to any semblence of logic...you must also admit the direct correlation between the smoking ban and Erica's problem. If you are unable to see any causual effect between the smoking ban and Erica's problem then I will have to assume that methusla's assesment is more correct than I originally might have thought.

As to your post on choices...you obviously left one out. The harm caused to non-smokers who entered smoke filled bars was also caused by choices....theirs. It's so obvious I can't believe you failed to mention it in your list.

August 7, 2009 at 12:30 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

Choosing to enter smoke filled bars is also a conscious decision.....but there we punish the smokers not the ones that chose to enter.

August 7, 2009 at 12:33 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

Changing one word in my earlier post...."If you are unable to see any causual relationship between the ban and Erica's problem...." Sorry about that>

August 7, 2009 at 12:40 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

open_eyes (anonymous) says...

Since crack likes to cry racism at every opportunity, imagined or otherwise, here's another chance for ya:

UNION THUGS BEAT BLACK AMERICAN PROTESTER AT TOWN HALL MEETING

http://www.blogowogo.com/blog_article...
or
http://www.infowars.com/union-thugs-b...

Of course, we know in cracks corner of the cell, everyone against any Obama policy does so purely because of racism. I'm just curious.... I wonder if it had anything to do with the meeting and the man's views, or whether it was just a band of Obama thugs roaming around looking for someone to beat up. Who knows.

August 7, 2009 at 12:59 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

crack,
Your logic and biased, thinking about discrimination is totally absurd and your comparisons are just plain nonsense. Please read and try to understand and comprehend the following,
dis⋅crim⋅i⋅na⋅tion  /dɪˌskrɪməˈneɪʃən/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [di-skrim-uh-ney-shuhn]
–noun 1. an act or instance of discriminating.
2. treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing belongs rather than on individual merit: racial and religious intolerance and discrimination.
You and others have definately put smokers in a group, class, or category, therefore that is, by definition, " discrimination ", which, by the way is a violation of federal law !

August 7, 2009 at 1:14 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

By the way crack, trying to say that discrimination is only because of skin color, race or religious preference is the only type of discrimination is just plain ingnorant ! The smoking ban is a form of discrimination, as per the definition of discrimination and you and the ban smoking brigade have managed to use the local governments to enforce your discriminatory attitudes, wants and wishes, therefore making the local governments as discriminating as you and your ban smoking cronies !

August 7, 2009 at 1:23 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

open_eyes (anonymous) says...

I fully well realize, in your alternate version of reality, asking someone who is making a big deal of Brownback's bible study where the prez gets his, is somehow a racist comment. And, knowing how your mind works (or fails to) from reading your posts, I also realize nothing will ever convince you otherwise. Spin it all you want but that never even crossed my mind until you brought it up. It was simply a question as to why some people are blasted for faith and others aren't. Personally, I've seen quite a bit of what came out of Wright's mouth at Obama's church and am curious as to why you don't attack that, since you like to belittle Christians so often. I didn't put any words in your mouth. Just repeating what comes out of it. And I've seen it more than once by other posters on other forums in the past as well as the news, and not just about tea parties.

August 7, 2009 at 2:47 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

crack,
You can not in good conscience deny that you, by your own words, such as smokers have a filthy habit, labeling people as just" smokers " in a contemptuous way, etc., is not placing them in a certain GROUP of people that you definately do not like, even though you say you have friends that smoke ! Do your friends know absolutely for sure how you feel about them and their filthy habit of smoking ? If not, then you are not being honest with your friends, not to mention your employer !
And again crack your comparisons of skate boarding, skate boarders and murderers is not the same as smokers and again you insinuate that smokers are murderers , which is again putting smokers in a certain group. Your logic, absolutely defies all logic and common sense !

August 7, 2009 at 3:08 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

open_eyes (anonymous) says...

I see alot of people try to differentiate between someone who says "this should be law because God says so" and people who use their faith to guide their decisions. Seems to me there really isn't much difference between the two. Obama has said in speeches that "The challenges we face today....They are moral problems ... and so the values we believe in.....- these cannot only be expressed in our churches and our synagogues but in our policies and in our laws." Or when his campaign last fall distributed literature that stated "Obama will be a president 'guided by his Christian faith'". Or when he created his White House Office of Faith-based and Neighborhood Partnerships.
You see, those things he refers to..... that he believes in..... justice, compassion for fellow man, etc.... they came from that "storybook of fairytales" you refer to. And Obama openly admits how it has shaped his faith and life. Sounds to me like his "faith is used to make decisions that will impact others". That's different than saying "well, this is what I believe in, it's just a coincidence that things like the Golden Rule also happen to be in a silly fairytale book somewhere, but I'm not doing it because of faith in that".

Now there's a thought: I wonder if crack would find that people wouldn't attack her so much if she quit stereotyping, belittling, name-calling, and generally looking down her nose in contempt at everyone who disagrees with her. They might be nicer to her.

Nah, that would be following something taught in a storybook, and she's much too smart to fall for that.

August 7, 2009 at 3:39 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

First of all, crack, skateboarders are not put into a group of people who kill or murder people, like you seem to want to continually put smokers in a killer or murderer catagory or group, therefore prohibiting skate borders from skate boarding on sidewalks, is not discrimination in a this sense.However, if skateboarders were prohibited from skating on sidewalks, because someone catagorized them as killers or murders just because someone did not like them or what they were doing, then that would be discrimination ! But insinuating that smokers are likened to killers and murders and forcing them out onto the sidewalks because they smoke and referring to them smoking as the being the same as killers and murderers, just because they happen to smoke and you or anyone else doesn' t like it, is discrimination.
second, non-smokers who refer to or insinuate that smokers are killers or murders is a form of discrimination and using the excuse that everything else that has been shown to do as much harm to the general public as smokers, smoking and SHS is necessary or beneficial and singling out smokers to ban from doing what is a lawful activity just because of your beliefs, wants and needs is also discrimination, done by non-smokers !
Now here is a question for you to answer. Why do you insist on comparing and insinuating that smokers should be considered the same as someone who kills and murders, which you have insinuated several times in several of your comments ?

August 7, 2009 at 4:40 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

I personnally am glad people are starting to stand up to these thugs that were trying to monopolize any and all discussion on health care refrom. These so called average middler class citiizens that were being bussed around from place to place on the tab of some status quo health care high rollers were themselves nothing more than thugs.

Act like a thug get treated like a thug...No sympathy from me here. Sorry, And don't tell me they were just trying to be heard.....what they were really trying to do was keep anybody with an opinion dioffrerent from theirs from being heard. I say it is about time to start fighting fire with fire.

You can't scream and yell and shout down everybody that you don't agree with and then play innocent victim when somebody pushes back.

August 7, 2009 at 4:46 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

giggles (anonymous) says...

Funny how crack demands answers to her questions, but doesn't follow that same line of action when the questions are posed to her. Hypocrites tend to be the most judgemental of others in my view.

(BTW, as a side note I assume that crack is female based on previous posts about her and her husband going out to spend their $60 bucks once in a blue moon.)

August 7, 2009 at 4:55 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

open_eyes (anonymous) says...

Obama has said QUITE clearly that his morals and ethical values that guide him come from and are based on his religious beliefs, not cultural values. I'd like to be able to say "nice try" here, but it wasn't even that. Clear as day what he said.

And, again..... obeying the law is taught in that "storybook". Tiller's killer was no more following the teachings of the Bible than you follow any cultural values about not constantly stereotyping people.

And besides.... not all of mans or a nations laws deserve to be followed. Slavery was once legal, ya know. If you were a slave, would you put your beliefs in all men are created equal above the nation's law that says someone legally owns you? I'm sure you'd work towards a democratic solution, as I would. Difference is, I think I'd take the first underground train north (breaking man's law). And then work for a solution from there.

August 7, 2009 at 4:56 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

open_eyes (anonymous) says...

biscuitboy..... its not clear to me (my apologies ahead of time) who you are siding with on the "thugs". According to the article, preferential treatment was being shown as to who was allowed in the meeting and who was being kept out (those who did not agree with Obama's view). Is that who you were referring to, or those who were being shut out? Do you mean they were being bussed around, like all the drunks that ACORN would bring to the polls? Would you prefer the townhall meetings be staged, like some have been? I've heard some about the protestors being "organized by the rightwing nuts", and so forth...... but who organizes anti-war marches, pretty much any political rally, etc...??? Who shouted down the minutemen at many colleges? Is that what you meant by keeping anyone with a different opinion from theirs from being heard?

I did hear a good line from Rush (don't listen to him very often, but did catch a bit today).

"A community organizer shouldn't bitch when communities organize to bitch."

August 7, 2009 at 5:02 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

open_eyes....first I was not responding to that article...and will not respond to that article. I was responding to the obviously orchastrated effort over the past number of days now.... where usually relatively small numbers of people.....claiming to be "average middle class citizens"......attend town hall meetings on health care and on cue monopolize the meeting by screaming yelling and shouting down any body else that tries to speak.

Now...a thug is a thug is a thug...no matter what side of the fence he sets on. But it is accepted by everybody that these groups were...up until a day or two ago.....right wingers to the core...as witnessed by the apporoval and accolades they received from the right. Those are the thugs I was refering to.....and as you so often like to say......they did it first.

August 7, 2009 at 6:22 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

open_eyes (anonymous) says...

I've seen a whole lot of exactly what you describe during the past decade...... by "left-wingers to the core". I even gave a few examples. I've seen quite a few "orchestrated efforts" in a number of areas that, as usual, people are ok with - as long as it agrees with their agenda. If its from the opposing view then they're just "thugs".
And no, I would not say that it is "accepted by everybody". I've seen alot of people (me included) getting pretty fedup with the government ignoring our wishes. And since ABC won't give advertising slots during Obama's speeches to anyone with a different opinion, and pretty much the only network that even dares to routinely expose opposing points of view is regularly derided for doing so...... what do you suggest people do? I don't agree with anyone screaming and yelling and shouting people down. But sometimes our politicians won't listen unless we get loud. \But it seems these days our politicians not only do not listen to us, but opposing views are pretty much not allowed. We watched for 5 years how anyone against the Iraq war was "unpatriotic" (I did not believe that, but those people who wanted us to lose, yes). And quite a few "orchestrated" events surrounding that. But it appears those same people didn't learn the lesson.

August 7, 2009 at 6:41 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

" In both cases, their actions were unsafe and their actions is what was banned; not the people themselves. "
crack, the smokers actions were not banned, they were banned from a place. In order to ban their actions, you would have to ban smoking entirely ! Oh, and now you are putting skaters in a group with your comment, " Also, skaters are stereotypically known as "punks" (or riff-raff as you might say) who damage property, loiter, steal, and are generally up to no good. " I'll bet that you think that the only people who are any good at all are those who agree with you and live as you would have them live.
You are one single minded, hateful, hate filled person crack and yes I have come to " dislike ", not hate, but dislike you and people like you who do nothing but oppress, and persecute others who just happen to do something you dislike and do not agree with your beliefs and live by your set of rules ! Crack, may you have the short, unhealthy and sorrowful life you deserve.

August 7, 2009 at 7:49 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

Folks, not saying for or against but I understand Fox News will be having a special Sunday eve at 8:00 concerning our current head of state. Should be interesting. Will be narrated by a Sean Hannity.

August 7, 2009 at 8:46 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

Meth,I liked your response concerning "dislike" of crack. This person cares for no one but self. When something occurs that affects crack and that lack of common sense, then and only then will this individual feel things are "unjust". It has been shown over and over what a very poor displayer of the smoking ban the CAE group have currently representing them. As biscuitboy (I believe said) "Not worth our time to give crack time".

August 7, 2009 at 9:14 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jcook66801 (anonymous) says...

Sandman: Sorry you waited so long for my answer. I'm not smart enough to simplify my point any further.

By the way, Papa Murphys and Centinella have both closed. Dare we blame them on this cursed ban?

August 7, 2009 at 11:37 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jcook66801 (anonymous) says...

l didn't realize Fox News was still on the air. I figured once that stopped being the White House PR department, they'd shut down.

Wonder how long before the smoking ban shuts down Fox News? :)

August 7, 2009 at 11:40 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

When I was a kid an old man with a cane tripped me as I was running along the sidewalk. I was hurt by his action. I think we need a ban on old men with canes.

I also witnessed a woman slip and fall on a piece of lettuce in a grocery store....she was hurt,,,,,we need to ban vegatables in grocery stores.

I was once opening a bottle of champagne when the cork blew out striking me in the eye.....we need to ban champagne bottles.....it should only be sold in paper bags.

My dog one time jumped up to greet me and scratched my same eye.....so we need to ban dog greetings.

I just don't like avacadoes...so we should ban them also.

I can go on and on with this...somebody please stop me.

August 8, 2009 at 4:25 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

open_eyes....about the only thing we do agree on on this topic is that the other sides guys are thugs and our side afre just poor m iddle class citizens trying to do what's right in a hostile world.
So you know I'm wrong...and I know you are wrong. One thing for certain neither of us will change the other's mind...but I also doubt that either of us will quit expessing our views on it.
So I guess we are doomed to continuing to take pot shots at each other on topics like this.
But if everybody thought just alike think how boring forums would be,

August 8, 2009 at 4:35 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

Sean Hannitty should be placed in the same home where they put Glen Beck. But I hope that's not seriouslyfolk's home because I like seriouslyfolks.....nuff said.

August 8, 2009 at 4:38 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

open_eyes....somebody told me Rush Limbaugh had once decribed Cain as a right-winger because he was not afraid to stand up; for what he believed in.....where Abel was a limp wristed milk toast. That being the case you guys really did it first. Just Kidding :-)

August 8, 2009 at 4:45 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

jcook66801, Thats OK, I'll just consider the source and then I understand.

August 8, 2009 at 6:14 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

crack, do you think? I wonder!

August 8, 2009 at 6:31 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

open_eyes...I don't se how you can say...."these days it seems like oppossing views are not allowed". The birthers and the screamers have alrady been given about a thousand times more air time than I would have given their nonsense were I calling the shots. And the "we hate everything Obama does" ads have become so common my mute button stays in an almost constant state of off.

From where I set it appears if there was any more oppossing views on TV right now......that's all the views there would be.

What I mean't by accepted by everybody was the screamers were recognized by everybody to be supporting a right wing agenda at the town hall meetings until left leaning middle class citizens started defending their right to speak and be heard a day or two ago. And you know what i mean't....you are just trying to change the base line.

I'm wondering though just how long its going to be before you and I are accussed of high jacking this well worn thread. :-)

And I hope you have a long...happy...and prosperous life.

August 8, 2009 at 7:10 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

My all time favorite curse is; "May life bring you everything you deserve.",,,,,for most of us that would be terrible.

August 8, 2009 at 7:21 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

crack,
You say you care about others ! Truth is you care more about yourself and controlling others, not caring about others ! Futhermore you don' t inform. you try to force everyone to believe and live by your standards and only your standards ! Think about what you say crack ! You say you don' t have a problem with someone doing something. And then say, if you believe that it may cause you harm, ban it, then in the same breath, you say , you would not support a ban on something that causes you and everyone harm because you think it is of some sort of necessary benefit to you.
Your whole problem is one of the inability to make obvious, rational and respectful decisions for yourself about yourself or well being and respect for what others may want and need ! Everything has to be about what you want or need !
All you want, is to control everything and everyone, no matter what or who your controlling attitude does harm to.
If you really cared about making Emporia a better place, you would be trying to do something constructive, like trying to create more jobs, instead of destroying jobs, businesses and others peoples lives and way of living with unnecessary bans.
And my son, daughter, granddaughter, grandsons, great granddaughter visit me quite often, thank you ! Oh, and if you want to start bring family into this, I to can get quite nasty in that respect also and by your starting to bring family into this, just goes to show everyone, just how much of a low, hateful and non-caring person you really are !
Besides what does how often any of my family visit me have to do with this, anyway !

August 8, 2009 at 9 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

I have to go to a funeral this morning.....luckily not mine.

At least I don't think it is....unless they are just telling me that to trick me into showing up. Bring out your dead and all you know.....you know how these democrats are....always trying to trick people into something....LOLLOLLOL

August 8, 2009 at 9:22 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...

Area Man Uses 'Big Buck Hunter' Score To Determine Ability To Drive Home

FAIRFIELD, IN—After spending five hours at Dunn's Irish Pub on Wednesday night, Michael Sampson, 31, was overheard citing his Big Buck Hunter score as proof of his sobriety, and thus his ability to safely operate a motor vehicle. "I shot the h*ll out of every one of those deer in the background, I didn't kill any does, plus I got bonus points at the end for gettin' those duck b*st*rds," Sampson told bar patrons, staggering as he put down the game's gun-shaped neon-orange controller. "All right, let's go." Sampson then finished his beer, paid his tab, and severely injured all three passengers when he swerved off the road and slammed into a 10-point buck at 65 mph.

August 8, 2009 at 9:30 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...

There are two brothers, Sam and David. Sam asks David to to watch his house and cat while he is away on vacation. Sam calls David.

"Hey, how are things? House is still standing? How's my cat doing?"

David swallowed hard, "Well yeah man, your house is still standing. Nice place you have here by the way. Sorry to tell you this but you cat died though."

"What?" Sam said. "You just can't tell someone that their cat is dead. You have to break it down to them gently. The first time I call you should say that the cat is on the roof trying to catch a bird. The second call you should say that the cat lost its footing trying to catch the bird as it flew away, it fell and now it's at the vet. The third call you should be to tell me that the vet says that it's not looking good for the cat. On the fourth call you let me know that my cat died peacefully in its sleep."

David agreed.

"So," Sam continues. "How's Grandma?"

"Well, Grandma's on the roof playing with a bird."

August 8, 2009 at 9:33 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

open_eyes (anonymous) says...

well biscuitboy, I never though we were taking "potshots" at each other in a derogatory way, I do enjoy debating with you as you seem pretty level-headed and sensible in (most - lol) of your views, and even though I get a little steamed under the collar at times, I usually get kicked into the icebox by someone (rightfully so) and cool back down :). And I'm agreeing with you more than you think on some things - but still desagreeing on others. I DO see an "orchestrated effort" to keep opposing points of view suppressed, as I've mentioned some above - but I saw some of the same things in the early years of the war of the last administration. I don't agree with it no matter which side is doing it. And I don't agree with being loud and trying to shout down others. I'm just saying there ARE some honest middle-class citizens that ARE fed up, and it seems like we aren't being heard. Maybe some are part of some insidious conspiracy, but not all. (Maybe someone can tell me how many people were bussed into the Emporia "tea party" by outside backers).
I also wonder how well the public would have received it if Bush had asked Americans: "If you get an email or see something on the web about the Iraq war or WMD's that seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov". Might sound innocent enough, I'll bet it would have went over REAL well with the left........ yeah right....... so what's the definition of "fishy" to government (any, not just the current)? Anything that is not the truth? Or........ anything THEY don't declare is the truth? Do YOU trust our government that far?

August 8, 2009 at 9:48 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

open_eyes (anonymous) says...

biscuitboy...... was Eve left-wing or right-wing? NOW would know...... I'm sure her standing with them is completely based upon her stance on abortion..... and absolutely nothing else..... :)

August 8, 2009 at 9:54 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

open_eyes......No...I mean't potshots in a light hearted...not derogatory way. I don't paticularly trust government all that much.....by the same token....I don't particularly distust government all that much either. I don't think they are always working on my best interest, but I also don't believe they are always out to get me or to harm me.

I try to asses each encounter I have with government on an individual basis. I do the same with people I deal with. Some are good...some are bad.....and most are in between.

I do however see what appears to me to be a lot of fear-mongering going on in the right wing. By that I mean the movers and shakers playing on the fears many people have to keep them in the fold....and I believe that is always a dangerous tactic...very prone to backfire.

But I really do have to go to a funeral now......be back this afternoon. Love Ya.....Platonically speaking of course. :-)

August 8, 2009 at 10:25 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...

Fear mongering goes on on both sides it's just that the side that is doing it never sees it as such. One man's crisis is another man's ................ um .............................. not crisis. I would point out what I currently see as a not crisis being made out as a crisis but the people who actually believe it is a crisis would disagree with me so what's the point really?

Vote NO! or Yes! or what are we talking about?

Seriously R. Folks

August 8, 2009 at 10:37 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...

http://blogs.moneycentral.msn.com/top...

If the Walmarts takes down the corrupt cookie scam of an organization that I dare not utter the name of perhaps I can come out of hiding. I have found an unexpected ally in the Walmarts. There is hope.

Seriously R. Folks

August 8, 2009 at 10:43 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...

Helpful Tips To Make Life Simpler

1. Old telephone books make ideal personal address books. Simply cross out the names and addresses of people you don't know.

2. Fool other drivers into thinking you have an expensive car phone by holding an old TV or video remote control up to your ear and occasionally swerving across the road and mounting the curb.

3. Lose weight quickly by eating raw pork and rancid tuna. I found that the subsequent food poisoning enabled me to lose 12 pounds in only 2 days.

4. Avoid parking tickets by leaving your windshield wipers turned to fast wipe whenever you leave your car parked illegally.

5. No time for a bath? Wrap yourself in masking tape and remove the dirt by simply peeling it off.

6. Apply red nail polish to your nails before clipping them. The red nails will be much easier to spot on your bathroom carpet. (Unless you have a red carpet, in which case a contrasting polish should be selected).

7. If a person is choking on an ice cube, don't panic. Simply pour a jug of boiling water down their throat and presto! The blockage is almost instantly removed.

8. Save on booze by drinking cold tea instead of whiskey. The following morning you can create the effects of hangover by drinking a thimble full of dish washing liquid and banging your head repeatedly on the wall.

August 8, 2009 at 11:23 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...

Top twenty things to do at a Wendy's drivethru

1. Drive through the drive thru in reverse and let your passenger order.

2. Ask prices of everything on the menu then order something that you did not ask the price for.

3. Pretend like your window is broken. Tell the employee this. Order with your door open, pay with your door open. Roll down window and take food through the window.

4. Go to McDonalds and demand a big breakfast at 11:30 at night. Put up a fight.

5. Pay for a large order in pennies and nickels unwrapped.

6. Order in another language. Be careful what neighborhood you are in.

7. When asked if they can take your order, tell them you are just window shopping and drive on.

8. Laugh sadistically when asked if you would like ketchup.

9. Ask how they fit into that little box.

10. If they make you wait, make them wait when they come back on.

11. Demand to speak to the manager. When he comes on, complain that you did not like the way the employee said "May I take your order?"

12. When asked if they can take your order say "No, why can't I take yours?"

13. If they ask you to wait, order anyway and keep doing it till they yell at you.

14. Pretend like your car broke down. Ask for assistance in moving it. When they come out, drive away.

15. Tell them you have to use the bathroom.

16. Order a cup of water and two napkins. That's it.

17. Don't order when they come on. Just sit there. If a line forms behind you, get out of the car and cause a scene.

18. When they hand you your food, hand them a bag back with all the trash from your car in it.

19. Just stare at them when you pay and get your food. Don't break your stare.

20. Honk your horn the whole way through the line.

August 8, 2009 at 11:28 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

open_eyes (anonymous) says...

I remember the most recent bout of "fear-mongering" before the current health-care scenario. We HAD to pass a humongous pork bill ASAP else the economy would collapse. Thank God it saved the unemployment rate from ever going above 8 or 8.5% (as it was claimed to do). It was so dire that nobody was even allowed to read it - there just simply wasn't time......

And before that, it was a tactic the right used, and before that, the left used it, and before that, the right, then the left, etc, etc, etc.......... (although I think somewhere in there, there was a stretch where the right used it twice in a row, but that was to get even with the left using it 3 times in a row once, etc...... :)

A light-hearted look at history :)

Oh and thank you so much for adding the "platonically speaking". I thought there for a minute I was going to have to tell sandman I changed my mind and am joining the preisthood - LOL :)

August 8, 2009 at 12:21 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

open_eyes

ROFLMAO.......You are welcome....still laughing....

By the way...I was relieved to learn that the funeral wasn't for me....Had it been, I would have been later getting home.

Seriouslyfolks....every drive thru in town is going to take out a bounty on your head......you are nuts.....:-)

August 8, 2009 at 12:42 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...

lol
That video said it best, Bush loved America and destroyed it on accident cuz he can't talk good and is goofy lookin'. Obama on the other hand doesn't have that excuse cuz he is pretty and can talk some real good American, sometime I can't even understand his American cuz it's some much gooder than my American is good. I sure does wish that Obama would love America the way Bush did cuz he might be able to do some good with all the pretty and good American talkin' that he is good at.

August 8, 2009 at 2:06 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

biscuitboy, so glad the funeral wasn't for you for that could be a very deading experience!!! (at least I understand it is) Plus we would miss the conversation between you and open_eyes
and have only cracks attitude. Be a VERY poor and uninteresting blog then!!!!

August 8, 2009 at 2:12 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

I was thinking about attending the memorial service for the victims of the Bush presidency tonight at the fairgrounds. I understand Obama has donate a couple of dozen clunkers to be offered up as a form of national penence. Oh Wait....its a ...its a not a memorial service.....a demolition derby you say......oh...never mind.....

August 8, 2009 at 3:55 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

open_eyes, you and I both know you would NEVER make it being a priest (by earlier post) and I couldn't make it as a "Nun"(previous interest). Believe we would both be kicked out for our interest concerning an"experimental" habit in a certain area. Now take "area" , does she mean "location" or in a physical manner? Enough said!!

August 8, 2009 at 5:03 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...

Next year all the cars at the demo derby will be Priuses( I don't know how to make Prius plural. I don't type very good American I guess.) Should be a hoot!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_P...

August 8, 2009 at 5:31 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

Priuses works for me...

August 8, 2009 at 5:42 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

seriouslyfolks, you are a joy! Never know what you ae going to post!!

open_eyes, I have the feeling that you are going to have "open season" with my above post, please be gentle.
In rereading not sure it makes sense, I should have said "we have interest priest normally aren't considered having. Gee, I'm only digging that hole deeper. woe is me!!! Will you please get me a ladder?

August 8, 2009 at 6:43 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...

I believe in bringing peace using "superior" funny power. For a time we all even enjoyed peace with cracknsack believe it or not(back when we all rallied together in our opposition to burglary). To the best of my knowledge(which isn't that great) crack and I still are at peace. We'll see what Monday brings.

Seriously R. Folks

August 8, 2009 at 10:07 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

Those were the days......I have never enjoyed these forums so much as when we.....well most of us anyway.....rallied together in our opposition to burglary. I even noticed gg's handle on a thread recently so she has apparently forgiven the forums if not seriouslyfolks and I. gg if you are listening I would still like to offer up my apology for being a moron.

August 9, 2009 at 3:53 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

I wouldn't go so far as to say that crackinsack and I have made peace.....but a bilatteral truce might be in the making.

August 9, 2009 at 3:57 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

create (anonymous) says...

Yes, I remember that anti-burglary forum. What a hoot that was.

Seriously, you are something else. I enjoyed the drive up humor and laughed so loud it scared Thomas Justagato clear off the computer desk. He may never purr again.

August 9, 2009 at 7:29 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

As I hear it....every restaurant in town with a drive-thru has posted wanted posters for seriouslyfolks....I don't know why.....obviously they just have no sense of humor. :-)

August 9, 2009 at 8:32 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

seriously folks,
Man what a sight that would be to see a bunch of Priuses, Priusus, Prius's, Priiii, oh what ever the plural of Prius is, silently runing around the arena, making no sound, except when one happened to slam into another making a sound that would resemple the crumpling of aluminum foil and plastic breaking and the only thing that would resemble the sound of an engine would be the occassional,unmistakable sound echoing through the grandstand of Brrrrrrrrrp, of someone one passing gas ( farting ) in the grandstand. Ahhhh what a vision of the time honored event known as the demolition derby, and the cars wouldn't be the only thing being demolished at such an event !

August 9, 2009 at 9:06 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

Isn't that the truth......also dying would be the mystique of the internal combustion engines......the hot rods of our youth.....and the dominant place American manufacturing used to hold in the world. The death may be necessary...but it certainly isn't looked forward to.

That may not be what you ahd in mind in your post methusla....but it is certainly what crossed my mind when I read it.

August 9, 2009 at 10:24 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

driveonby (anonymous) says...

Crack asked a simple question. "What can non smokers do that smokers can't?"

Crack, the simple answer is that smokers cannot go into businesses and recreate as they please. This is in spite of the fact that the owners of these businesses have no issue with this practice, and actually PREFER the business of people who smoke. Non smokers can recreate as they please, at the expense of property owners and their ex customers.

You have gotten your wish. Businesses are foundering, less tax collection, people operating at 25% to 60% less income, hours being cut, lay offs, the effect is rippling out into the community.

What part of this causes you SO much joy is beyond me to understand. Only a true sicko enjoys the pain of others.

I realize you consider yourself to be quite the bard of Emporia. You may want to look up the condition "narcissistic", as this certainly applies. You are so pleased with your appearance and performance that you are in danger of falling in the reflecting pool and drowning!

August 9, 2009 at 11:21 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...

I guess peace couldn't hold out till Monday.:(

August 9, 2009 at 11:37 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

Does anyone know what these wanted posters of seriouslyfolks look like and do they resemble Ronald McDonald in any way ?
I was wondering ! As I spotted a clown being chased West on 6th Ave. this morning, with several uniformed fast food employees in hot pursuit, waving their burger flippers menacingly , with what looked like " Wendy bringing up the rear, throwing what looked like square burgers at the rest !

August 9, 2009 at 12:46 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

Run Seriously, Run!

August 9, 2009 at 1:24 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

If Forrest can, you can. Mama says so!! Just remember what Mama taught you, ANYTHING is possible!!!! Emporia is waiting!!!

August 9, 2009 at 1:31 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

open_eyes (anonymous) says...

LOLOLOL sandman.... no, I'll be gentle :). After all, I completely ran out of rope & shovels for crack, but I may still have a ladder somewhere..... :).

The Prii (plural?) demolition derby might be more exciting than you think - remember, they are capable of doing 100mph when you have drugs and are being chased by cops and your dad is a former VP!!! If only it had been one of Sarah Palin's kids that had done it......... Prius would now be the #1-selling car in America, from all the publicity.... instead of hardly anyone hearing about it..... :)

August 9, 2009 at 1:59 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

A Prii...now what kinda car is a Prii.....must be one of those little european limp-wristed little girly cars. No V-8's, no dual exhaust, no four-barrel double-pumper carbs...you know the kind. The ones that set at a stoplight and shake and rumble...and when they take off the back tires go around real fast and smoke comes off. Weeeee doggies...I do love a car like that. That's a manly car for sure.

August 9, 2009 at 3:09 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

Methusla....I have never seen one of those seriouslyfolks wanted posters....nor has anybody else that I know. I just heard about them on Glen Beck's show.....so if he said so it must be true.

August 9, 2009 at 3:13 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

open_eyes, Boy! I am lucky, crack saved the day!!! you were gentle! I was so afraid you were going to "wring my neck" with that rope or make me dig that hole deeper!!!! Now the question arises, will you please place that ladder so that I may get out of this terrible hole? Thanks!!!!

August 9, 2009 at 4:15 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

open_eyes (anonymous) says...

Oh now, its not that bad.... if you stop and look up..... you'll find.......... the hole you dug is only knee-deep, so you shouldn't need a ladder - LOLOLOLOLOL....

Contrast that with someone who shouuld be popping out somewhere in China soon........ either that or their universe consists of 1 small pedestal approx the height of Mt. Everest, and to them it looks like everyone else is in a hole by comparison. (Must be the thin air up there - their brain cells obviously just don't get enough oxygen sometimes :).

I know, biscuitboy, I miss the muscle car era........ I had a car like that once. It shuddered and rumbled so roughly at stopsigns everyone thought I must have had one heck of a racing cam in it.

Turned out I just had a loose sparkplug wire and it was only firing on 7 cylinders. (Sigh).......... LOL

August 9, 2009 at 4:40 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...

Speaking of drive-thrus

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmGVYk...

August 9, 2009 at 5:33 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

Ok, open-eyes, you must be taller then I for it sure looks deeper to me. Gee, I've always heard that if you dig far enough you will end-up in China. Really don't want to give it a try though, I'm tired!!! I did as you suggested and I'm not making any headway, you can just see my claw marks!!! Be a gentleman and give me that darn ladder!!!!

August 9, 2009 at 6:15 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

open_eyes......most of us from that era had at least one car like that.....and I even heard [not that I would know this].....that some people would pull a plug wire on purpose just to experience the effect. :-)

August 9, 2009 at 6:42 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

All, maybe you've heard of this, I hadn't until alittle while ago. Please go to: AARP representative walks out of "BamaCare" meeting and won't listen to angry senior citizens. Seems this happened a couple days ago.

August 9, 2009 at 8:43 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

I am now ready to make the leap. crackinsack is a troll. She cares little about what she says, or if it has any truth to it. All she really is interested in is your reaction. It's all meant to keep her at the center of attention. And, as I have often said in the past, when somebody does start to agree with her and side with her she will often turn on them.

Having said all this, I must still agree that this thread has a marked tendency to ramble in her absence. Welcome back troll.

August 10, 2009 at 4:14 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

Her last post proves my point. While she cries that she has no friends....once the conversation drifts away from her.....she will always post something like that to draw it back to her.

August 10, 2009 at 4:18 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

biscuitboy
Ah yes, the days of the cheap, high octane gasoline and the stoplight to stoplight challanges, etc., I remember them well !
As through the mid 60's to early 70's I had several machines of the rumbling, rumpity-rump idle, tire smoking variety that I either built or purchased, such as a 1937 chevrolet pick up with a rather stout chevy 327 cu. in. engine, a factory 1967 Ford Fairlane GT with a really strong 390 cu. in. H.O. engine, a 1969 Plymouth GTX, 440 cu. in. six pack that would nail you back to the seat when you got on it hard ! Ah yes those were the days, high horsepower and now worry about gas mileage and you could fill your 20 gal gas tank for around 15 bucks or less !

August 10, 2009 at 6:24 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

methusla.....you had some nice rides my man...I would have been proud to cruise with you. My most interesting rides were a 49 Ford.....with a beefed up flat head that my dad and I built That was followed by a 56 Mercury that was one of those really quick cars despite being totally stock. Well that's if you call a highway patrol package totally stock. Then a 55 chevy with a reworked 327.

Later on my need for speed was satisfied by a few years of playing around with roundy-round dirt trackers down in Arkansas. Those were the days my friend.

The cheapest gasoline I can remember was less than a quarter a gallon. I can remember coming home from the navy on leave, borrowing dad's car, putting two dollars in the tank and driving around all night long.

August 10, 2009 at 7:29 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

The very cheapest gas I can remember was about 18cents per gallon, man that was a long time ago !

August 10, 2009 at 8:03 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

I hope you are not insinuating that I am......I may be a biscuit....but I am not a sweet thing.

August 10, 2009 at 8:32 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

open_eyes (anonymous) says...

I haven't heard a remark like crack's latest since.......... 4th grade?

August 10, 2009 at 8:53 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

crack, please go back to bed!!!! You got up on the wrong side, come to think of it you need to change what side of the bed you get out of for this is standard form for you!!!!

For your information a Fairy is:
A tiny imaginary being in human form depicted as being mischievous and having magical powers.

Now, if what you stated was true, first, biscuitboy hasn't shown the mischievous part nearly as much as YOU, for that is all you have shown!!

Second, I believe if he had magical powers, he would have
taken care of a very negative and unrespectful person, YOU!

But you, yes, TROLL! A small creature living under a bridge.
That is why you are such a jerk, you have rocks not only for a bed but also for a brain.

August 10, 2009 at 9:50 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

crack, how you view "fun"-seeing who received tickets/crimes. Boy! you are one sick puppy!!! Not most of us give a hoot, just so we aren't in the obits!!! Have a day you deserve. You live one very boring life!

August 10, 2009 at 10:05 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

crack,
The ticket, citation portion of the Gazette was banned by some Fairy eating Troll, who thought it was being harmed by that particular column, because the Troll didn' t have common sense enouth to stay away from it !

August 10, 2009 at 10:52 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

methusla (anonymous) says...

crack, no wonder youre full of bologna. Better stick to eating Fairies !

August 10, 2009 at 11:19 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

How about me?.....I'm the one you called a fairy. Just because I called you a troll...which was true...didn't give you the right to call me a fairy...which wasn't true.

August 10, 2009 at 12:27 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

Crack, first I would like to compliment you for the nice wish you gave me. Sorry to say, but believe that is the nicest thing you have ever written,Thank You! Also, in giving Meth an apology plus an attempt to open_eyes. Please do so to biscuitboy, for he is the one you attacked.

Crack, in the past you have mentioned various studies, there are numerous ones concerning attitude. It is a known fact that people with a positive attitude live longer then those with an negative outlook, plus there are so many + benefits! Just think, you could crawl out of that bed looking forward to the day!!!

Biscuitboy, I bet you are a "sweet thing"!! Believe me, I 'm not meaning anything derogatory but a man that is caring,loving, gentle, loves life and carries that forward. In my thinking, we need more of those instead of the "Rambo" type, then maybe our world wouldn't be in the shape it is, giving our youth someone to respect.

August 10, 2009 at 2:27 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

seriouslyfolks (anonymous) says...

I'm the Rambo type with a twist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pO0BNA...

August 10, 2009 at 2:33 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

crack, just for humor side. I remember as a child I loved "Peter Pan" (played by Mary Martin!) and he had a fairy, what was its name? Tinkerbell, I believe. I always wished I could fly as "Peter Pan", my folks were lucky I didn't try!!! "Being the tomboy I was!

August 10, 2009 at 2:48 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

sandman (anonymous) says...

seriouslyfolks, You must have gotten away yesterday, good for you!!!!! Adding more sun to a raining, yucky day. Hopefully not a lot of damage, threw my deck table/chairs all over, woe is me! Thanks! you add joy and please keep those running skills up!

August 10, 2009 at 3:06 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

Well crack...I guess so much for my apology. Oh well....I guess thats probably it for our bi-latteral truce to....huh?

Your still a troll.....na na na na na na

August 10, 2009 at 6:42 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

Martina my Martina?

August 10, 2009 at 8:15 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

Can't we just all get along?

August 10, 2009 at 8:33 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

Is this forum finally winding down?

August 11, 2009 at 7:14 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

Well said.

August 11, 2009 at 8:34 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

biscuitboy (anonymous) says...

Your right you are not really a troll.....and I'm not a fairy.

I third the motion about putting this to rest.

August 11, 2009 at 8:42 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Steve_Corbin (anonymous) says...

I'll be seeing you, in all the old familiar places:)

August 26, 2009 at 10:22 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

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